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Title: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: lifeeternal on January 18, 2020, 09:22:20 AM
This was a good thread on MI.
People thinking that Behemoth are currently a black metal band.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Juggz on January 18, 2020, 10:09:21 AM
Metal band photos, especially the ones where they're striking the metal pose and digitally superimposed onto a longboat or a volcano or wall of fire or some other nonsense.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Pentagrimes on January 18, 2020, 10:46:22 AM
People not reading the original post in forum threads before posting in them.

Also I'll go one further than Juggz: Bullet belts. Of all the ridiculous metal fashion accessories these are the lamest-you dont have a gun and unless you're Lemmy or Sarcofago in 1987,you look like an absolute twat. If you absolutely insist on wearing one then go the whole hog and wear a sombrero and poncho as well you fucking poser.

The utterly weird business like approach some (particularly Northern) bands on this island have. Treat your music like a product and itll be discarded as such because its utterly disposable. "Professional" metal in this country is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Trev on January 18, 2020, 11:06:43 AM
Quote from: Pentagrimes on January 18, 2020, 10:46:22 AM
If you absolutely insist on wearing one then go the whole hog and wear a sombrero and poncho as well you fucking poser.
Have to say I'd love to see a load of people in that get up at a gig  :laugh:

Hidden tracks tacked onto the last song of an album after a load of silence. Or demo/cover songs stuck on the end on re-releases that just completely ruin the flow of an album
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Pentagrimes on January 18, 2020, 11:18:59 AM
Quote from: Trev on January 18, 2020, 11:06:43 AM
Quote from: Pentagrimes on January 18, 2020, 10:46:22 AM
If you absolutely insist on wearing one then go the whole hog and wear a sombrero and poncho as well you fucking poser.
Have to say I'd love to see a load of people in that get up at a gig  :laugh:


Lads breaking out maracas and Mexican waves instead of head banging. It would be fantastic.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on January 18, 2020, 11:21:19 AM
Ah here, bullet belts are savage.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Giggles on January 18, 2020, 11:31:59 AM
Bullet belts are gorgeous!
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on January 18, 2020, 11:32:42 AM
Quote from: Pentagrimes on January 18, 2020, 10:46:22 AM
The utterly weird business like approach some (particularly Northern) bands on this island have. Treat your music like a product and itll be discarded as such because its utterly disposable. "Professional" metal in this country is ridiculous.

Content provider!
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Pentagrimes on January 18, 2020, 11:37:54 AM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on January 18, 2020, 11:32:42 AM
Quote from: Pentagrimes on January 18, 2020, 10:46:22 AM
The utterly weird business like approach some (particularly Northern) bands on this island have. Treat your music like a product and itll be discarded as such because its utterly disposable. "Professional" metal in this country is ridiculous.

Content provider!

Might start a vlog to talk about how to do merchandising, and views on "the local scene". Rather than the actual music. Gigs are overrated,let's just have a sales conference lads.

That's another one,people who interview bands and  feel compelled to ask them  general questionsabout what they think of the Irish scene.

Jesus I've loads of peeves lads  :D. My biggest peeve is always my own ability to get annoyed about this shit though.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on January 18, 2020, 11:40:59 AM
There's a certain band who's vlogs have provided entertainment for all the wrong reasons  :laugh:
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Pentagrimes on January 18, 2020, 11:46:14 AM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on January 18, 2020, 11:40:59 AM
There's a certain band who's vlogs have provided entertainment for all the wrong reasons  :laugh:

Legitimately not sure who you mean but I can guess  :laugh:
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Necro Red on January 18, 2020, 01:03:01 PM
Would that be a band starting with the initial T?
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Juggz on January 18, 2020, 01:22:22 PM
Quote from: Pentagrimes on January 18, 2020, 10:46:22 AM
People not reading the original post in forum threads before posting in them.

Also I'll go one further than Juggz: Bullet belts. Of all the ridiculous metal fashion accessories these are the lamest-you dont have a gun and unless you're Lemmy or Sarcofago in 1987,you look like an absolute twat. If you absolutely insist on wearing one then go the whole hog and wear a sombrero and poncho as well you fucking poser.
I'll see your bullet belts and raise you pretend armour. The dragon will melt your plastic shoulder pads, lads.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: blessed1 on January 18, 2020, 01:22:51 PM
Tech death Albums that clock in at over an hour long.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: TheFlyingGiraffe on January 18, 2020, 01:39:53 PM
+1 for Bullet Belts. If you can pull them off, full support.

Reissues having bonus tracks in the middle of the album. What sort of buffoon thinks this is a good idea?

Incantation rip off #37828. Fuck off back to the cavern you came from.

Bands being more of a clothing line than a band. *Cough* Revenge *Cough*

As much as I love raw black metal, the "releasing a cassette on the third full moon of the year at the witching hour for 66 copies and shipping it with my own blood and cum for you to post on instagram and then flip for 3 times the price" shit needs to die real fuckin hard, real fuckin quick. It's been going on for far too long at this stage.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Ollkiller on January 18, 2020, 02:16:51 PM
Describing a gig as a ritual or black mass etc. Its a fucking gig.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Ducky on January 18, 2020, 02:41:21 PM
I can't remember what festival it was, but I remember reading a review of Dissection. The band were standing with their back to the crowd being all evil (to be fair to Notvied, he was a genuinely nasty piece of shit) and as he turns to them someone pegs a teddy bear at the cunt.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Born of Fire on January 18, 2020, 04:17:32 PM
"Official Videos" from nothing bands who are still at the demo stage.

Hard man metal, where the lyrics are all about how tough the lads are so you better not fuck with them  :laugh:
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Anton Arcane on January 18, 2020, 04:17:47 PM
Northern Irish scene heads giving embarrassingly over zealous praise to their local bands.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: kiehozero on January 18, 2020, 05:43:28 PM
Quote from: Ollkiller on January 18, 2020, 02:16:51 PM
Describing a gig as a ritual or black mass etc. Its a fucking gig.

Absolutely this, have to second the one about bands who are more of a clothing label than a band as well.

- Record Store Day
- Shit bands who don't focus on improvement, but just decide that everyone else in "the scene" is "against them."
- Any band name that immediately tells exactly what they sound like, i.e. doom and stoner bands continually using the words Iron, Electric, Bong, Weed and Wizard in their names
- Singers who stand in front of the stag rather than on it, trying to look intense
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Trev on January 18, 2020, 06:26:37 PM
Quote from: kiehozero on January 18, 2020, 05:43:28 PM
- Singers who stand in front of the stag rather than on it, trying to look intense
Can't remember who it was but there was a support band at a gig where the singer jumped off the stage and into the crowd. Except the crowd was two people. Was screaming his vocals into one lads face, who turned and walked off, the other guy looked uncomfortable being the last person there so he went to the bar

Was pretty funny to witness
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Makeshiftatomsmasher on January 18, 2020, 07:02:00 PM
Quote from: Trev on January 18, 2020, 06:26:37 PM
Quote from: kiehozero on January 18, 2020, 05:43:28 PM
- Singers who stand in front of the stag rather than on it, trying to look intense
Can't remember who it was but there was a support band at a gig where the singer jumped off the stage and into the crowd. Except the crowd was two people. Was screaming his vocals into one lads face, who turned and walked off, the other guy looked uncomfortable being the last person there so he went to the bar

Was pretty funny to witness

:laugh: :laugh: That could well have been my old band. We played a gig in Co. Sligo one time. We didn't even get to play our 15 min set before the venue manager (a hotel) shut us down.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on January 18, 2020, 09:36:17 PM
Yeah,  my interest in ultra raw BM is fairly low at the moment.  It has to have some particularly interesting quality to catch my attention and that doesn't mean limitation or added semen.

That was a reply to TheFlyingGiraffe
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Ducky on January 18, 2020, 11:10:41 PM
Quote from: Makeshiftatomsmasher on January 18, 2020, 07:02:00 PM
Quote from: Trev on January 18, 2020, 06:26:37 PM
Quote from: kiehozero on January 18, 2020, 05:43:28 PM
- Singers who stand in front of the stag rather than on it, trying to look intense
Can't remember who it was but there was a support band at a gig where the singer jumped off the stage and into the crowd. Except the crowd was two people. Was screaming his vocals into one lads face, who turned and walked off, the other guy looked uncomfortable being the last person there so he went to the bar

Was pretty funny to witness

:laugh: :laugh: That could well have been my old band. We played a gig in Co. Sligo one time. We didn't even get to play our 15 min set before the venue manager (a hotel) shut us down.

Oh where was this? I've been at my share of gigs in Sligo that were sparsely attended.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Anton Arcane on January 19, 2020, 12:42:53 AM
This new thing of releasing a single from an EP. A pretentious way of saying we made a video for a song on our demo.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on January 19, 2020, 01:08:19 AM
I have no issue with bands making videos at whatever stage they are at if it shows creativity and adds something.  Generic videos or lyric videos, zooming in and out of throbbing and shaking album artwork is another story. 
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Anton Arcane on January 19, 2020, 01:17:28 AM
I've no problem with the video part. My issue is with the term "single from an EP". EPs don't have singles, albums have singles.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: ldj on January 19, 2020, 05:18:57 AM
The idea that just because a band or an album is old they are legends or it's a classic.

There's a many a generic thrash album that came out in the 80's that gets called legendary for example.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Ducky on January 19, 2020, 07:32:03 PM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on January 19, 2020, 01:08:19 AM
I have no issue with bands making videos at whatever stage they are at if it shows creativity and adds something.  Generic videos or lyric videos, zooming in and out of throbbing and shaking album artwork is another story.

Yeah that is absolute cack, but I guess they have to do something as YouTube is an important platform.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: TheFlyingGiraffe on January 20, 2020, 04:32:59 PM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on January 18, 2020, 09:36:17 PM
Yeah,  my interest in ultra raw BM is fairly low at the moment.  It has to have some particularly interesting quality to catch my attention and that doesn't mean limitation or added semen.

I find it easy enough to digest a lot of super mediocre black metal personally, but yeah there is a lot of shit at the moment which is just carbon copies of each other. Black Plague Circle in Bosnia seems to be the trend at the moment with like Sulphuric Night, Vrac, Cave Ritual, Void Prayer. And while, they're cool bands, it's all super incestuous so when you hear one you basically hear them all.

Quote from: Eoin McLove on January 19, 2020, 01:08:19 AM
Generic videos or lyric videos, zooming in and out of throbbing and shaking album artwork is another story. 

What is it with this shit and metalcore? It seems like every metalcore band on the go at the moment is doing this. And they're all the exact same. Who watches this scutter?
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: northside hoop on January 20, 2020, 04:57:28 PM
Quote from: kiehozero on January 18, 2020, 05:43:28 PM
- Singers who stand in front of the stag rather than on it, trying to look intense

In the context of this thread I can't work out if that's a typo or not.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on January 20, 2020, 09:54:46 PM
Seems like most of these' circles' consist of three or four people.  Surely that makes them triangles and squares.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: mick1sheridan on January 21, 2020, 09:56:20 AM
Having to play Metal 2 The Masses in Dublin. Grown men doing a battle of the bands always felt weird to me
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Juggz on January 21, 2020, 10:14:46 AM
Don't forget your "family" hashtags and social media spamming, leave your dignity on the floor now  :laugh:
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Anton Arcane on January 21, 2020, 10:39:07 AM
My last band used to get plagued by messages to do those. Head wrecking. I think bands lose more than they gain by doing them. It's like a public acknowledgement that they're amateur level and can't get a real gig by conventional means.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Pentagrimes on January 21, 2020, 07:06:28 PM
The  phrase "metal brothers".
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 21, 2020, 07:32:05 PM
You prefer the more formal, "brothers of true metal"?
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Angel of Debt on January 21, 2020, 07:44:43 PM
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 21, 2020, 07:32:05 PM
You prefer the more formal, "brothers of true metal"?

Siblings of Steel
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Ducky on January 21, 2020, 08:42:37 PM
"I thought brothers in metal stuck together".

Sure, when they were 16. You're in your 40s, somehow married with children and probably have Machine Fuckin' Head PJs.

Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Kurt Cocaine on January 22, 2020, 07:53:02 AM
Quote from: Pentagrimes on January 21, 2020, 07:06:28 PM
The  phrase "metal brothers".
Brrrrooootherrrrr.....!!
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: leoos on January 22, 2020, 10:37:08 AM
"Caveman death metal" - Is that something some blogger came up with recently that's being used liberally. I don't remember anything being referred to as Caveman death metal back in the 90's
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on January 22, 2020, 10:55:47 AM
Is it the same as caverncore?
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Pentagrimes on January 22, 2020, 10:58:57 AM
Quote from: leoos on January 22, 2020, 10:37:08 AM
"Caveman death metal" - Is that something some blogger came up with recently that's being used liberally. I don't remember anything being referred to as Caveman death metal back in the 90's

I suppose its quicker to say than "Americans making boring generic mosh based death metal". Its the DM equivalent of "party thrash" and needs to fuck off immediately.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on January 22, 2020, 11:31:41 AM
Name a few of the bands playing it.  It's clearly passed me by.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: biggish_kev on January 22, 2020, 11:48:12 AM
People being vocally surprised that you are a metalhead, generally, in work - 'you don't look like the type'.  Yeah, I'm not going to wear my Death merchandise while in the queue to use the canteen's microwave.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Pentagrimes on January 22, 2020, 12:29:47 PM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on January 22, 2020, 11:31:41 AM
Name a few of the bands playing it.  It's clearly passed me by.

Anything on Maggot Stomp (which started well but has now become a fucking marketing brand) or particularly Sewer Rot.(which seems to put out absolute bullshit exclusively).

Frozen Soul,Mortal Wound,Malignant Altar are all grand but that's about it.

I think it's an attempt by the yanks to separate old Florida/Tri-State influenced bands from all the other sub genres really, a lot of it sounds like Baphomet & Internal Bleeding to me,who wants a scene full of that??But it's silly. Encoffinization are the worst offenders. Ok band musically for a song or two but their aesthetic/schtick is lame.

Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on January 22, 2020, 12:52:58 PM
A brief listen to a couple of those bands tells me it's not for me.  That style is far too one dimensional. 

Maggot Stomp looks similar to what Detest were at a few years ago, and arguably what the new incarnation,  Medieval Prophecy, is doing. Detest became very samey and boring but I'm guilty of picking up most MPR stuff at the moment even if not all of it is exactly great.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Pentagrimes on January 22, 2020, 02:36:53 PM
Wasnt familiar with MRP but I like Moenen of Xezbeth. Detest had a good hit to stinker ratio at the time.

Theres so much you can do with death metal,sad that people just want to copy the past.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Pentagrimes on January 22, 2020, 05:03:05 PM
Sort of related to the caveman thing- the band  Gatecreeper's continued existence and baffling popularity never ceases to piss me off.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: kiehozero on January 22, 2020, 06:26:08 PM
Quote from: Trev on January 18, 2020, 06:26:37 PM
Quote from: kiehozero on January 18, 2020, 05:43:28 PM
- Singers who stand in front of the stag rather than on it, trying to look intense
Can't remember who it was but there was a support band at a gig where the singer jumped off the stage and into the crowd. Except the crowd was two people. Was screaming his vocals into one lads face, who turned and walked off, the other guy looked uncomfortable being the last person there so he went to the bar

Was pretty funny to witness

I saw a band at Fibber's called Peasant for a King do it and it just looked daft. At the same gig another band did a 'deathcore' cover of 'I Want it That Way' by Backstreet Boys but the guitarist did all the harmonies perfect. Bizarre night.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Ducky on January 22, 2020, 06:29:54 PM
Quote from: biggish_kev on January 22, 2020, 11:48:12 AM
People being vocally surprised that you are a metalhead, generally, in work - 'you don't look like the type'.  Yeah, I'm not going to wear my Death merchandise while in the queue to use the canteen's microwave.

Haven't been to gig since I saw Chic in 2018, but when I was going one of the guys I worked with couldn't understand as he thought I listened to all "I hate myself and want to die" music.

This from a lad whose music "collection" is a 70 song playlist on Spotify.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: leatherface on January 22, 2020, 07:51:55 PM
The term 'stoner metal' or 'stoner rock'. Although I do like the music I find the term cringe. Is there any normal sounding alternative to this genre?
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Paul keohane on January 22, 2020, 08:13:43 PM
The country seems to be awash with 'stoner' 'sludge' type bands.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Anton Arcane on January 22, 2020, 08:36:39 PM
Noobs that think the metalcore scutter they listen to is the most extreme music ever created.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: DeletedUsermNqGIiIuGy on January 22, 2020, 08:40:28 PM
'Troo' metal heads
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Motörbastard on January 23, 2020, 11:29:27 AM
That Ireland Metal Heads Facebook page. Jesus fucking christ, all this "metal family" bullshit.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Carnage on January 23, 2020, 11:38:03 AM
No negative comments bro, or you'll be banned. Rock on, fukker.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Nail_Bombed on January 23, 2020, 12:11:04 PM
Quote from: Aborted on January 22, 2020, 08:40:28 PM
'Troo' metal heads

Very 'Troo'. Or 'Trve' if a pvre kvlt black metalhead. Ouch, some of my braincells just went, typing the 'v's into that.  :abbath:

The very idea that listening to anything other than metal makes you a false is pure nonsense. Sure there are times when I want a steady hearing diet of metal for a while, but there's a lot of other stuff out there. Why be limited?

Also this kind of thing. Sure, gnarly band logo and all, but FFS make it somewhat more legible.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/61/ab/8a/61ab8adbf6715c423e23d361d731f547.gif)
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Jward on January 23, 2020, 02:35:39 PM
Quote from: Nail_Bombed on January 23, 2020, 12:11:04 PM
Quote from: Aborted on January 22, 2020, 08:40:28 PM
'Troo' metal heads

Very 'Troo'. Or 'Trve' if a pvre kvlt black metalhead. Ouch, some of my braincells just went, typing the 'v's into that.  :abbath:

The very idea that listening to anything other than metal makes you a false is pure nonsense. Sure there are times when I want a steady hearing diet of metal for a while, but there's a lot of other stuff out there. Why be limited?

Also this kind of thing. Sure, gnarly band logo and all, but FFS make it somewhat more legible.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/61/ab/8a/61ab8adbf6715c423e23d361d731f547.gif)

Some of those would make kick-ass chandeliers!
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Blitzer666 on January 23, 2020, 03:25:14 PM
Quote from: Ducky on January 22, 2020, 06:29:54 PM
Quote from: biggish_kev on January 22, 2020, 11:48:12 AM
People being vocally surprised that you are a metalhead, generally, in work - 'you don't look like the type'.  Yeah, I'm not going to wear my Death merchandise while in the queue to use the canteen's microwave.

Haven't been to gig since I saw Chic in 2018, but when I was going one of the guys I worked with couldn't understand as he thought I listened to all "I hate myself and want to die" music.

This from a lad whose music "collection" is a 70 song playlist on Spotify.

Chic? I think u need a word with yerself big lad.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Juggz on January 23, 2020, 03:34:07 PM
Quote from: Blitzer666 on January 23, 2020, 03:25:14 PM
Quote from: Ducky on January 22, 2020, 06:29:54 PM
Haven't been to gig since I saw Chic in 2018, but when I was going one of the guys I worked with couldn't understand as he thought I listened to all "I hate myself and want to die" music.

This from a lad whose music "collection" is a 70 song playlist on Spotify.

Chic? I think u need a word with yerself big lad.

Chic are class, incredible musicians playing one of the best set lists you'll ever hear. I saw them five or six times over the last 10 years.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: lifeeternal on January 23, 2020, 03:52:45 PM
Quote from: Motörbastard on January 23, 2020, 11:29:27 AM
That Ireland Metal Heads Facebook page. Jesus fucking christ, all this "metal family" bullshit.
That the nonsense in that group irritates me as much as it does is a huge peeve of mine.  :laugh:

Chic are class.

Metal fans who think listening to several genres of metal gives them a diverse taste in music.

Remasters that butcher the album.
Mustaine what we're you thinking?!
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Ducky on January 23, 2020, 04:53:32 PM
Quote from: Juggz on January 23, 2020, 03:34:07 PM
Quote from: Blitzer666 on January 23, 2020, 03:25:14 PM
Quote from: Ducky on January 22, 2020, 06:29:54 PM
Haven't been to gig since I saw Chic in 2018, but when I was going one of the guys I worked with couldn't understand as he thought I listened to all "I hate myself and want to die" music.

This from a lad whose music "collection" is a 70 song playlist on Spotify.

Chic? I think u need a word with yerself big lad.

Chic are class, incredible musicians playing one of the best set lists you'll ever hear. I saw them five or six times over the last 10 years.

Bang on the money.

90 minutes of some of the best, most feel good songs in the history of popular music. Nile Rogers can have my cash any day of the week for a ticket.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Carnage on January 24, 2020, 02:49:31 AM
Quote from: Nail_Bombed on January 23, 2020, 12:11:04 PMThe very idea that listening to anything other than metal makes you a false is pure nonsense. Sure there are times when I want a steady hearing diet of metal for a while, but there's a lot of other stuff out there. Why be limited?

Indeed. At the moment I'm listening to my Youtube mix of fairly girly electropop, chilled out electronic/trip-hoppy stuff, '80s-eque synthwave and so forth, and it's just to wash down the filthy sludge I was listening to beforehand. The notion that liking one of these things precludes enjoying another is farcical, and ultimately limiting.

I like wine, too.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on January 24, 2020, 11:23:30 AM
My listening habits are around 99% metal as I've become older.  I don't care what other people want to supplement their metal listening with,  that's their business,  but I still reserve the right to shame them and show them the door. I'm reasonable like that.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Giggles on January 24, 2020, 03:10:36 PM
Quote from: Nail_Bombed on January 23, 2020, 12:11:04 PM
Quote from: Aborted on January 22, 2020, 08:40:28 PM
'Troo' metal heads

Very 'Troo'. Or 'Trve' if a pvre kvlt black metalhead. Ouch, some of my braincells just went, typing the 'v's into that.  :abbath:

The very idea that listening to anything other than metal makes you a false is pure nonsense.

Who are these people though? And when does this actually happen?
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Ducky on January 24, 2020, 03:55:34 PM
A brand of them are the Metal Bros.™ that see anything that isn't metal as bbbaaaddd... even if their idea of a good time is seeing a Metallica tribute for the 972nd time.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: lifeeternal on January 24, 2020, 05:35:51 PM
Quote from: Giggles on January 24, 2020, 03:10:36 PM
Quote from: Nail_Bombed on January 23, 2020, 12:11:04 PM
Quote from: Aborted on January 22, 2020, 08:40:28 PM
'Troo' metal heads

Very 'Troo'. Or 'Trve' if a pvre kvlt black metalhead. Ouch, some of my braincells just went, typing the 'v's into that.  :abbath:

The very idea that listening to anything other than metal makes you a false is pure nonsense.

Who are these people though? And when does this actually happen?
In this thread when Ducky said he likes Chic!
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Juggz on January 24, 2020, 06:01:38 PM
 :laugh:
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 25, 2020, 08:40:26 AM
Quote from: biggish_kev on January 22, 2020, 11:48:12 AM
People being vocally surprised that you are a metalhead, generally, in work - 'you don't look like the type'.  Yeah, I'm not going to wear my Death merchandise while in the queue to use the canteen's microwave.

Is there a dress code to use the microwave, specifically??
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Ducky on January 25, 2020, 01:56:42 PM
Don't you know that like, microwaves and metal don't mix?
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Juggz on January 25, 2020, 02:45:38 PM
Ducky, if you're looking to resume your gig attending and perplex your work colleagues even further, you might like Cory Wong who is coming over towards the end of February. He's got the Nile Rodgers right hand thing going with a very funky backing band.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5XPSwZefs4
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: kiehozero on February 09, 2020, 10:14:20 PM
Quote from: TheFlyingGiraffe on January 20, 2020, 04:32:59 PM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on January 18, 2020, 09:36:17 PM
Yeah,  my interest in ultra raw BM is fairly low at the moment.  It has to have some particularly interesting quality to catch my attention and that doesn't mean limitation or added semen.

I find it easy enough to digest a lot of super mediocre black metal personally, but yeah there is a lot of shit at the moment which is just carbon copies of each other. Black Plague Circle in Bosnia seems to be the trend at the moment with like Sulphuric Night, Vrac, Cave Ritual, Void Prayer. And while, they're cool bands, it's all super incestuous so when you hear one you basically hear them all.

Black metal has a big problem with the pissing contest of who is "true" and who isn't, although if the additional of loads of hipsters has done anything for the scene it is that there's now a bunch of people who are actually just interested in the music rather than raiding the local gamekeeper's wheelie bins for spent cartridges and having a cat-scratch logo. I checked out some of the bands you mentioned from that Black Plague group and as the standard is exactly as you infer, one good band with ten names. For all those bands appear to eschew publicity, they'll actually take it every day of the week. Don't know if the link was posted up here but Malevolum have an interview where they talk loads about anonymity and keeping the music closed off to people. All well and good until they decided that the people who should conduct their first interview were from Decibel.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on May 11, 2020, 09:54:55 AM
Hidden tracks on CDs.  What a pointless pain in the hole.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Nail_Bombed on May 11, 2020, 12:46:16 PM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on May 11, 2020, 09:54:55 AM
Hidden tracks on CDs.  What a pointless pain in the hole.

Total waste of blank space, yep. Have there ever actually been any good hidden tracks though?
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: blessed1 on May 11, 2020, 12:58:21 PM
Quote from: Nail_Bombed on May 11, 2020, 12:46:16 PM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on May 11, 2020, 09:54:55 AM
Hidden tracks on CDs.  What a pointless pain in the hole.

Total waste of blank space, yep. Have there ever actually been any good hidden tracks though?

https://youtu.be/Q2-M3GfMACQ

I always thought this hidden track was class.
The song itself before the hidden track is a bit shit but the hidden one itself is cool if you like classical type metal.
It's 5 mins in.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Jward on May 11, 2020, 01:04:39 PM
Quote from: Nail_Bombed on May 11, 2020, 12:46:16 PM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on May 11, 2020, 09:54:55 AM
Hidden tracks on CDs.  What a pointless pain in the hole.

Total waste of blank space, yep. Have there ever actually been any good hidden tracks though?

Endless, Nameless
Nirvana
Is a great track
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Juggz on May 11, 2020, 01:24:30 PM
Perhaps not in metal but there are two great tracks which immediately spring to mind:

Turn Brakes - Ether Song, hidden after the end of Rain City, best song they ever wrote.

Super Furry Animals - The Citizen's Band, hidden before the first song on the Guerilla album, you have to play the first song and rewind beyond 00:00 to get to it.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Juggz on May 11, 2020, 01:31:11 PM
Peeve -> Tough guy hardcore. I fucking love early hardcore but once it gets into the tough guy bullshit and, even worse, showing respect ad nauseum it's fucking insufferable.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Carnage on May 11, 2020, 02:11:31 PM
Quote from: Jward on May 11, 2020, 01:04:39 PM
Quote from: Nail_Bombed on May 11, 2020, 12:46:16 PM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on May 11, 2020, 09:54:55 AM
Hidden tracks on CDs.  What a pointless pain in the hole.

Total waste of blank space, yep. Have there ever actually been any good hidden tracks though?

Endless, Nameless
Nirvana
Is a great track

This, brilliant track, I hate the stupidity of 20 mins. of silence before it (though I took pleasure in sticking it on on pub jukeboxes back in the day). Great version of it on Live At The Paramount.

The shite with hidden tracks before the album though, that can fuck off. Agoraphobic Nosebleed had one as well, on Altered States Of America.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on May 11, 2020, 02:30:09 PM
The peeve isn't the hidden music, it's the pointless blank space in between.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Ducky on May 11, 2020, 05:36:56 PM
Those self-referencing "comeback" songs like Soundgarden's "Been Away Too Long" and the new Cirith Ungol track.

Unimaginative shite.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on May 11, 2020, 06:20:20 PM
Megadeth, Metallica and Tourniquet are three others I can think of who have such songs.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Trev on May 11, 2020, 06:30:57 PM
Manowar made a career out of it
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: ldj on May 11, 2020, 08:12:58 PM
Not really a comeback song but Victory off of Youthanasia is hilarious, all the lyrics are made up of Megadeth song titles.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Nail_Bombed on May 11, 2020, 08:52:44 PM
Quote from: Juggz on May 11, 2020, 01:31:11 PM
Peeve -> Tough guy hardcore. I fucking love early hardcore but once it gets into the tough guy bullshit and, even worse, showing respect ad nauseum it's fucking insufferable.

Respekt 2 da krew, Crown Of Thornz stylee. Yo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9NQX66UBD0
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Necro Red on May 12, 2020, 09:28:41 AM
Quote from: Juggz on May 11, 2020, 01:31:11 PM
Peeve -> Tough guy hardcore. I fucking love early hardcore but once it gets into the tough guy bullshit and, even worse, showing respect ad nauseum it's fucking insufferable.
I agree and find that post comical  :laugh:
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Caomhaoin on May 12, 2020, 10:45:16 AM
Quote from: Juggz on May 11, 2020, 01:31:11 PM
Peeve -> Tough guy hardcore. I fucking love early hardcore but once it gets into the tough guy bullshit and, even worse, showing respect ad nauseum it's fucking insufferable.

Related to that, 'tough guy' behaviour on stage, like that spastic Kvarforth from 'Shining'. I saw this tube spark up a fag (it's not what it sounds like, American lurkers), put it out on his chest, then take a fairly monster swig from his wine bottle only to spit it out at the crowd, the residue dribbling down his chin. If I'd gotten his stinking backwashed wine over me I'd be wanting refunded, the scummy bastard.

Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Nail_Bombed on May 12, 2020, 12:59:11 PM
You can add the 'move up to the motherfucking front' crowd to the list. Grand enough if you're nice about it, but if you're in a venue with a small enough audience, and you're pulling the macho Phil Anselmo bullshit routine, you're not getting me up the front.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: astfgyl on May 12, 2020, 07:52:23 PM
Quote from: Caomhaoin on May 12, 2020, 10:45:16 AM
Quote from: Juggz on May 11, 2020, 01:31:11 PM
Peeve -> Tough guy hardcore. I fucking love early hardcore but once it gets into the tough guy bullshit and, even worse, showing respect ad nauseum it's fucking insufferable.

Related to that, 'tough guy' behaviour on stage, like that spastic Kvarforth from 'Shining'. I saw this tube spark up a fag (it's not what it sounds like, American lurkers), put it out on his chest, then take a fairly monster swig from his wine bottle only to spit it out at the crowd, the residue dribbling down his chin. If I'd gotten his stinking backwashed wine over me I'd be wanting refunded, the scummy bastard.



Funniest tough guy behaviour I've seen was when Glen Benton demanded to know who threw the plastic cup at him in The Village, and some lads told a Polish giant to say it was him. Glen got back in his box extremely quickly.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: ldj on May 17, 2020, 01:21:16 PM
That 10 seconds of silence all of the early Darkthrone albums have between tracks.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: hellfire on May 17, 2020, 02:27:30 PM
Quote from: Caomhaoin on May 12, 2020, 10:45:16 AM
that spastic Kvarforth from 'Shining'.

Nothing that wanker did would surprise me at this stage.  His horrid vocals really put me off the good music on Shining albums.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on May 29, 2020, 11:05:38 PM
Samples of loud moany orgasms used in songs.  Cuntish every time.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on May 29, 2020, 11:21:51 PM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on May 29, 2020, 11:05:38 PM
Samples of loud moany orgasms used in songs.  Cuntish every time.

If you're getting them during Filosofem, it's just that you've left Pornhub running in another tab.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on May 29, 2020, 11:27:18 PM
Seriously though, Rocket Queen and Whole Lotta Love make a convincing counter case.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on May 29, 2020, 11:32:37 PM
I had a Tormentor song on on YouTube from Recipe Ferrum and it was alright bar some yoke howling the flaps off herself in the background.  The second time it appeared it was in concert with some equally ready to blow stud. I find it cringey. Imagine blaring the album in the car and stopping at traffic lights when that came on.   :-[
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Ducky on May 30, 2020, 12:00:42 AM
Whole Lotta Love was grand when you were 20 and trying to be a stud in the nightclub, but it's cringey as fuck now (as is Robert Plant in general).
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Carnage on May 30, 2020, 12:02:14 AM
I've always hated that song. The Rocket Queen one is apparently real, there was riding afoot.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on May 30, 2020, 12:23:54 AM
Yup, they say it was Axl and his at the time missus in the booth.

Whole Lotta Love is quality; performed by a band who were young, dumb, and emptying themselves of cum.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Blitzer666 on May 30, 2020, 02:15:32 PM
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on May 29, 2020, 11:27:18 PM
Seriously though, Rocket Queen and Whole Lotta Love make a convincing counter case.

Along with more human than human
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on May 30, 2020, 04:59:13 PM
I'll give you 'Rocket Queen'.  The rest can get fucked.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: ochoill on May 30, 2020, 06:01:25 PM
Machine Screw surely gets a pass too
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Anton Arcane on May 30, 2020, 10:54:34 PM
And Justice For Jason and every fan remix/ remaster on YouTube.
If your delicate ears can't handle the original then don't listen to it all.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Grim Reality on May 30, 2020, 11:17:05 PM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on May 29, 2020, 11:05:38 PM
Samples of loud moany orgasms used in songs.  Cuntish every time.

  :laugh:

At the end of one of the 4cds neofolk compilation Looking For Europe is one of these BDSM industrial noise sex moany clattering bins type tracks.

I'd often throw on one of the cds during the day as background music when kids /visitors can't handle anymore Infernal Overkill and am left scrambling to switch off the stereo when the orgasms cum in out of nowhere.

On second thoughts.... The orgasm/murder track on COFs Cruelty and the Beast is passable as the theme is actually front and centre and the whole raison d'etre of the track and not slipped in on the sly ruining an otherwise acceptable song.

Absolute definition of a nostalgic guilty pleasure 😂
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: astfgyl on June 02, 2020, 07:28:57 PM
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on May 29, 2020, 11:27:18 PM
Seriously though, Rocket Queen

I personally don't mind it at all in that tune, but it gets a bit awkward when I'm listening to it and the kids are about. Pretty much the inverse of being the teen wanker watching the movie with the parents and the riding starts.

And nobody said anything but everybody knew you were thinking about your dirty little pipe. Actually in hindsight they must have felt as bad as I did knowing that.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: mugz on June 03, 2020, 01:24:51 AM
all your posts read like a cerebral accountant background character from Bridget and Eamonn; I mean that in the best way possible.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: astfgyl on June 03, 2020, 06:44:45 PM
:laugh:

Sound.... I think..
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on June 03, 2020, 10:21:47 PM
Metal pet peeve... that there still hasn't been a vinyl reissue of Traveller.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Anton Arcane on June 27, 2020, 11:44:07 PM
Bands using cartoon caricatures of themselves on merch and in videos. It's just so naff and cringey.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Thorn on June 28, 2020, 06:29:05 PM
Had to politely turn down the prospect of receiving the Metallica monopoly game for Father's Day for that very reason, I mean, seriously ,have a look at it and try to equate that with the trailblazing thrashers we all (well,a.lot of us) grew up with.
Caricatures can fuck right off along with any other blatantly commercial attempt to snag 'the kids'.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: mugz on June 29, 2020, 05:59:55 PM
Quote from: Anton Arcane on June 27, 2020, 11:44:07 PM
Bands using cartoon caricatures of themselves on merch and in videos. It's just so naff and cringey.

it was quite on point in the late 00s, but when testament did it recently it had gone back to being meh. Actually I didn't really like it in the 00s either despite being a cartoon fan.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on September 04, 2020, 08:28:08 PM
Metal bands who try to write epic fantasy concept stories. I was reading an interview with Atramentus and the dude starts going on about the lyrical subject matter.

The forlorn thief prince wages war against the stars and steals the goblin queen's magic cloak to kill the sun but ends up trapped inside the labyrinthine ice palace of endless winter....

What the fuck are you on about??? I'm sorry,  but these types of muddled, sorry *complex,  narratives where the band builds their own fantasy Tolkein-esque world, maybe even inventing their own language along the way, are cringey as fupp.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Blackout on September 06, 2020, 12:21:59 PM
Sounds like my last mushroom trip.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Pedrito on September 06, 2020, 12:28:07 PM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on September 04, 2020, 08:28:08 PM
Metal bands who try to write epic fantasy concept stories. I was reading an interview with Atramentus and the dude starts going on about the lyrical subject matter.

The forlorn thief prince wages war against the stars and steals the goblin queen's magic cloak to kill the sun but ends up trapped inside the labyrinthine ice palace of endless winter....

What the fuck are you on about??? I'm sorry,  but these types of muddled, sorry *complex,  narratives where the band builds their own fantasy Tolkein-esque world, maybe even inventing their own language along the way, are cringey as fupp.

Thought you loved all that elaborate weirdness, though I do take your point  :laugh:

Bal Sagoth were great at it though, although maybe it's just because the music is actually good.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: blessed1 on September 06, 2020, 01:16:54 PM
Don't see anything wrong with that stuff myself!
I think it suits certain bands. Can't really imagine a band like rhapsody  or blind guardian singing  about other stuff.
And bal sagoths lyrics are class. Just pure over the top which suits the music.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on September 06, 2020, 01:32:51 PM
I suppose it doesn't bother me as long as everyone is on the same page that it is literary toilet paper. People trying to rewrite LOTR and thinking that their autistic attention to boring detail and convoluted meandering plot lines makes them appear profound turns my pubes grey. More grey.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: blessed1 on September 06, 2020, 02:19:11 PM
Nah bal sagoths lyrics are deadly and in no way shite!
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on September 06, 2020, 04:09:53 PM
I can't comment on Bal Sagoth but what sparked my peeve was the interview with Atramentus in the new issue of ZT. Your man's brilliant concept read like what I imagine Donald Trump might come up with if he decided to become a fantasy novelist.  Baffling, meaningless word salad.

I should add that despite enjoying LOTR and The Hobbit when I read them back in the mists of time, I have zero interest in fantasy as a subject matter.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Pedrito on September 06, 2020, 06:11:43 PM
Nah I get it. Dream Theatre tried one a few years ago...cringiest thing I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on September 06, 2020, 06:44:21 PM
Sure as much as a legend as I think King Diamond is his fuckin horror story lyrics are about as scary and convincing as Tellytubbies  :laugh:
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Pedrito on September 06, 2020, 06:46:20 PM
Often thought the same. I'd much prefer Mercyful Fate.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on September 06, 2020, 06:57:39 PM
I think Conspiracy is as good as any MF. I even love the gammy lyrics, but let us not fool ourselves- they are utterly spasticated! I wouldn't want him to write any other lyrics than the nonsense he writes because that's the world he has conjured, for better or worse, but I'm under no illusions.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on September 07, 2020, 10:15:01 AM
The lyrics to Conspiracy are quality, and I'll force a stethoscope down the throat of anyone who tries to say otherwise!
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on September 07, 2020, 10:30:43 AM
They are great in context. They are also ludicrous and unscary.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Motörbastard on September 07, 2020, 03:50:44 PM
His granny makes a good cup of tea all the same
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Thorn on September 11, 2020, 04:44:33 PM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on September 04, 2020, 08:28:08 PM
Metal bands who try to write epic fantasy concept stories. I was reading an interview with Atramentus and the dude starts going on about the lyrical subject matter

Just come upon the blurb for that Atramentus album in ZT  ....cursed tale....nameless knight....granted immortality....perpetual torture....scorching cold blizzard winds, and my favourite of all ....A life destroying deluge :laugh:
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on September 11, 2020, 05:17:10 PM
Such convoluted nothingness. I mean, grand,  whatever you're into and all that, but it all seems like vacuous twaddle to me.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Thorn on September 11, 2020, 05:22:46 PM
Yep, there's always one that takes things too far eh
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: blessed1 on September 12, 2020, 11:46:37 AM
Bands who name their demo MMXVI or something to that effect. So fuckin stupid.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on September 12, 2020, 12:04:47 PM
Guilty!  8)
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: son of the Morrigan on September 12, 2020, 09:37:43 PM
Quote from: Thorn on September 11, 2020, 04:44:33 PM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on September 04, 2020, 08:28:08 PM
Metal bands who try to write epic fantasy concept stories. I was reading an interview with Atramentus and the dude starts going on about the lyrical subject matter

Just come upon the blurb for that Atramentus album in ZT  ....cursed tale....nameless knight....granted immortality....perpetual torture....scorching cold blizzard winds, and my favourite of all ....A life destroying deluge :laugh:

Id have to agree for the most part with ye lads, but what about Dio? Was only listening to Magica the other day and its a fupping classic, I even like the Magica story at the end, and I wouldnt be into that fantasy bollox at all.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on September 12, 2020, 09:42:47 PM
Dio's lyrics are cuntish!
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: son of the Morrigan on September 12, 2020, 10:02:54 PM
Your cuntish!
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on September 12, 2020, 10:04:09 PM
I was before but I'm at a whole new level now.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Ducky on September 12, 2020, 10:23:31 PM
Dio's whole sthick was very carefully marketed to dragon loving dweebs.

Absolute bollocks.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Juggz on September 12, 2020, 10:30:59 PM
Look out!!!
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: son of the Morrigan on September 12, 2020, 11:06:51 PM
Quote from: Ducky on September 12, 2020, 10:23:31 PM
Dio's whole sthick was very carefully marketed to dragon loving dweebs.

Absolute bollocks.

Your absolute bollocks!
Ive no time at all for dragons but I feckin love Dios music.
Great guitars, great vocals, whats not to like?
Also, Its far from dweebs I was reared.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on September 12, 2020, 11:07:44 PM
Who is arguing about Dio being cool? His lyrics are fucking shite none the less.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: nukeabuse on September 12, 2020, 11:11:51 PM
Been on a dio binge this week, listening to rainbow his solo work and heaven and hell. I'll realised he's like 3 song themes he just repeats through it all.

Evil lady's
Dragons
There's at least 2 or 3 lines that use the word 'rainbow' outside of actual rainbow.

Could still listen to his voice all day if he was singing the alphabet tbf
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: son of the Morrigan on September 12, 2020, 11:43:32 PM
Shite!
Ill have to scrap this great song Im after writing so.
Its about running with an evil woman and a dragon to the end of a rainbow, only to find theres no gold there but instead a bunch of children someone threw away. Then this spider comes along and we all scream only for the spider to start playing rock and roll and as the lights go down we all realize its better in the dark.
I thought it had classic written all over it.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Pedrito on September 12, 2020, 11:54:35 PM
Sounds perfect to be honest
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Ducky on September 13, 2020, 01:10:13 AM
Quote from: son of the Morrigan on September 12, 2020, 11:06:51 PM
Quote from: Ducky on September 12, 2020, 10:23:31 PM
Dio's whole sthick was very carefully marketed to dragon loving dweebs.

Absolute bollocks.

Your absolute bollocks!
Ive no time at all for dragons but I feckin love Dios music.
Great guitars, great vocals, whats not to like?
Also, Its far from dweebs I was reared.

My balls have been called many things before, but never "absolute"...

What's not to like? I'm going with the unbearably shite lyrics? When you're a clean/traditional vocalist your lyrics need to be at least bearable shite. Imagine being blessed with a set of pipes like his and having absolutely fucking nothing interesting to say?

What about the guitars? Last time I checked it was talent like Iommi, Campbell and Blackmore who were playing the guitars. Had fuck all to do with the elven chucklefuck.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: son of the Morrigan on September 13, 2020, 02:09:50 AM
Allright, allright. Jesus, calm down man. You dont like Dios lyrics. message recieved.
All I said was that Im not into fantasy shite myself but that I like Dios  Magica album.
Id add that I also quiet like Killing The Dragon but ya might have a stroke or something.
are ya allright? are ya on your period or something? is there anyone there to rub your back? Perhaps a hot water bottle would help.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Juggz on September 13, 2020, 08:05:59 AM
Were the wee scamp alive he would see tension rising here and, no doubt, counsel caution.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Pedrito on September 13, 2020, 01:06:21 PM
You could take the vast majority of metal and pull the lyrics apart. I'm listening to Type O here at the moment as a purely random example:

A cross upon her bedroom wall
From grace she will fall
An image burning in her mind
And between her thighs
A dying God-man full of pain
When will you cum again ?
Before him beg to serve or please
On your back or knees
There's no forgiveness for her sins
Prefers punishment ?
Would you suffer eternally
Or internally ?

Anything from BM to Death metal to whatever the hell you're into could be pulled apart with the same kind of derision. Ducky you're a big Seps fan no? It would be so easy to tear the majority of their lyrics to shreds. People who aren't into metal would go for those low hanging fruit always with me over the years. 'Oh god what's he singing about?' To which I'd reply 'Ah go away fuck ye boring cunt'.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Ducky on September 13, 2020, 01:09:36 PM
Quote from: son of the Morrigan on September 13, 2020, 02:09:50 AM
Allright, allright. Jesus, calm down man. You dont like Dios lyrics. message recieved.
All I said was that Im not into fantasy shite myself but that I like Dios  Magica album.
Id add that I also quiet like Killing The Dragon but ya might have a stroke or something.
are ya allright? are ya on your period or something? is there anyone there to rub your back? Perhaps a hot water bottle would help.

I love how expressing one's opinion these days is seen as something being wrong with you. Guy on internet likes different things than you do - shocker!

Anyway chaps, horns up and all that metal shite!  :abbath:
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Ducky on September 13, 2020, 01:18:20 PM
Quote from: Pedrito on September 13, 2020, 01:06:21 PM
You could take the vast majority of metal and pull the lyrics apart. I'm listening to Type O here at the moment as a purely random example:

A cross upon her bedroom wall
From grace she will fall
An image burning in her mind
And between her thighs
A dying God-man full of pain
When will you cum again ?
Before him beg to serve or please
On your back or knees
There's no forgiveness for her sins
Prefers punishment ?
Would you suffer eternally
Or internally ?

Anything from BM to Death metal to whatever the hell you're into could be pulled apart with the same kind of derision. Ducky you're a big Seps fan no? It would be so easy to tear the majority of their lyrics to shreds. People who aren't into metal would go for those low hanging fruit always with me over the years. 'Oh god what's he singing about?' To which I'd reply 'Ah go away fuck ye boring cunt'.

Pete Steele was at least a massive piss-taker. ToN are almost satirical at times with how they highlight the absurdity of metal.

Of course you can take apart the majority of metal lyrics and say they're shite, that's because they are (a lot of Seps lyrics included). That's why I said if you're a clean/traditional vocalist your lyrics should at least be passable - Dio is the focal point of anything he sang on, so it's kinda hard to ignore the lyrics. Someone like say Lord Worm with Cryptopsy - his lyrics are bollocks too but they're not the focal point of the song and are unintelligible anyway.

Edit - I'll give old Sepultura far more credit for their lyrics than anyone like Dio. Max was a young dude full of piss and vinegar singing songs full of piss and vinegar in his second language. His lyrics/message are tonally consistent to the music that they were set to.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Pedrito on September 13, 2020, 01:19:47 PM
Fair enough, as you say it's all opinions.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: son of the Morrigan on September 13, 2020, 10:17:00 PM
Quote from: Ducky on September 13, 2020, 01:09:36 PM
Quote from: son of the Morrigan on September 13, 2020, 02:09:50 AM
Allright, allright. Jesus, calm down man. You dont like Dios lyrics. message recieved.
All I said was that Im not into fantasy shite myself but that I like Dios  Magica album.
Id add that I also quiet like Killing The Dragon but ya might have a stroke or something.
are ya allright? are ya on your period or something? is there anyone there to rub your back? Perhaps a hot water bottle would help.

I love how expressing one's opinion these days is seen as something being wrong with you. Guy on internet likes different things than you do - shocker!

Ah I was only pulling the piss man.
Nothing at all wrong with you or your opinions, in fact from past post of yours Ive seen, you seem to very learned on the subject of all things metal and have very interesting views on musical matters.
Sure if we all liked the same thing this forum would make for some tedious fucking reading.

Anyway chaps, horns up and all that metal shite!  :abbath:
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on September 13, 2020, 10:43:05 PM
So what I'm taking from this discussion is that everyone agrees King Diamond writes better lyrics than, not only Dio, but Pete Steele and Max Cavalera too. This will certainly make "Them" happy  :abbath:
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on September 13, 2020, 10:54:04 PM
Pete Steele was a fantastic lyricist.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Pedrito on September 14, 2020, 01:33:40 PM
His lyrics on Wolf Moon were excellent

In the light of the day
You can hear the old ones say
Was the sound last night the wind?
Can you feel the change begin?

By the fall of the snow
A single soul will go
The footsteps on the white
There's an unholy light

There's a hole in the sky
Something evil's passing by
What's to come when the siren calls you go
To run with the wolf?


The 28th day
She'll be bleeding again
And in lupine ways
We'll alleviate the pain

Unholy water
Sanguine addiction
Those silver bullets
A last blood benediction

It is her moon time
When there's iron in the air
A rusted essence
Woman may I know you're there

Hey wolf moon
Come cast your spell on me
Hey wolf moon
Come cast your spell on me


Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: blessed1 on September 14, 2020, 04:06:45 PM
Wolf moon is about eating women out on their period lol
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Thorn on September 14, 2020, 05:06:15 PM
Wouldn't you think he'd have just said so instead of being all artsy fartsy about it
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Pedrito on September 14, 2020, 05:09:35 PM
Duck for cover is usually my tactic when 'moon time' comes around every month  :laugh:


The above lyrics are an amalgamation of Run with the Wolf by Rainbow and Wolf Moon
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Thorn on September 25, 2020, 01:56:52 PM
Recieving empty vinyl sleeves as freebies, pointless
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on September 25, 2020, 05:32:29 PM
Yeah it's an odd one alright.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Juggz on September 25, 2020, 09:24:51 PM
(https://forum.metalwarfare.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbravewords.com%2Fmedias-static%2Fimages%2Fnews%2F2020%2F5F3FDDD1-them-return-to-hemmersmoor-album-out-in-october-free-lyric-video-posted-image.jpeg&hash=5ac1a890a937c9f1fd86201ef0886022f52c600b)
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Trev on June 19, 2022, 09:27:23 PM
The amount of brilliant albums that are out of print, so if you're looking for any sort of physical copy, even a cd, the prices are fucking mental
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on June 20, 2022, 09:27:12 AM
My metal pet peeve is that Juggz doesn't post anymore.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: astfgyl on June 20, 2022, 02:15:28 PM
Quote from: Trev on June 19, 2022, 09:27:23 PM
The amount of brilliant albums that are out of print, so if you're looking for any sort of physical copy, even a cd, the prices are fucking mental


As a fella who still buys the CDs I know this pain too well. Wanted the wildhearts endless nameless a while back and the prices were spectacular. Sometimes discogs can get you out of that fix but usually I just download it and burn my own cd when it's too pricey
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: leatherface on June 20, 2022, 09:36:29 PM
Discogs is often the way to go, you have to rigorously look for a good deal, can be done though.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Pentagrimes on June 21, 2022, 09:27:32 AM
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on September 13, 2020, 10:43:05 PM
So what I'm taking from this discussion is that everyone agrees King Diamond writes better lyrics than, not only Dio, but Pete Steele and Max Cavalera too. This will certainly make "Them" happy  :abbath:

I fully back this opinion. My metal pet peeve is that we've never had a King Diamond  comic or graphic novel. To my knowledge. His storylines would lend themselves so well to that format I reckon.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on June 21, 2022, 09:54:33 AM
Ah lads, his lyrics are fucking atrocious b :laugh:
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Pentagrimes on June 21, 2022, 10:03:28 AM
Ah they're gas though. Cups of tea and all.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: blessed1 on June 21, 2022, 10:21:49 AM
https://www.bookdepository.com/King-Diamond-Abigail-Dan-Watters/9781940878911

There's a graphic novel of Abigail so there ya go!
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Pentagrimes on June 21, 2022, 10:30:05 AM
Quote from: blessed1 on June 21, 2022, 10:21:49 AM
https://www.bookdepository.com/King-Diamond-Abigail-Dan-Watters/9781940878911

There's a graphic novel of Abigail so there ya go!

Holy shit!!Cheers for the heads up.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Crow on June 25, 2022, 08:00:48 AM
Quote from: Juggz on September 25, 2020, 09:24:51 PM
(https://forum.metalwarfare.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbravewords.com%2Fmedias-static%2Fimages%2Fnews%2F2020%2F5F3FDDD1-them-return-to-hemmersmoor-album-out-in-october-free-lyric-video-posted-image.jpeg&hash=5ac1a890a937c9f1fd86201ef0886022f52c600b)

New Primordial incoming?
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Crow on June 25, 2022, 08:11:18 AM
Quote from: Pedrito on September 14, 2020, 01:33:40 PM
His lyrics on Wolf Moon were excellent

In the light of the day
You can hear the old ones say
Was the sound last night the wind?
Can you feel the change begin?

By the fall of the snow
A single soul will go
The footsteps on the white
There's an unholy light

There's a hole in the sky
Something evil's passing by
What's to come when the siren calls you go
To run with the wolf?


The 28th day
She'll be bleeding again
And in lupine ways
We'll alleviate the pain

Unholy water
Sanguine addiction
Those silver bullets
A last blood benediction

It is her moon time
When there's iron in the air
A rusted essence
Woman may I know you're there

Hey wolf moon
Come cast your spell on me
Hey wolf moon
Come cast your spell on me




That fucked me up to be honest. I was mentally singing the Dio bits in Pete Steele's voice to the tune of Wolf Moon. 'This feels weird, but yeah...'

Of fucking course it's Run With the Wolf JFC. Shame on me!

Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: CorkonianHunger on June 27, 2022, 11:18:58 PM
Quote from: Juggz on September 25, 2020, 09:24:51 PM
(https://forum.metalwarfare.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbravewords.com%2Fmedias-static%2Fimages%2Fnews%2F2020%2F5F3FDDD1-them-return-to-hemmersmoor-album-out-in-october-free-lyric-video-posted-image.jpeg&hash=5ac1a890a937c9f1fd86201ef0886022f52c600b)

What a disgrace haha, is that a photoshopped tattoo on the right?
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on June 28, 2022, 12:06:28 AM
The tattoo is real. They photoshopped the bro around it.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: The Heretic on June 28, 2022, 11:43:39 AM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on June 28, 2022, 12:06:28 AM
The tattoo is real. They photoshopped the bro around it.

He's trying hard to flex non existent muscles..
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on June 28, 2022, 01:13:42 PM
I dunno, fair bit of meat around the kneecaps.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Bürggermeister on August 29, 2022, 09:43:11 PM
The fetish for calling unrelated band cunts "brothers". Unless you share jizz or the egg originator, you're not fucken brothers. You're a bunch of cunts in a rehearsal room who usually can't fucking stand each other.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: son of the Morrigan on August 30, 2022, 03:54:50 AM
Have ya never heard of a brotherhood?
I do find it a bit annoying though, no more than yourself, but I can put up with it.
Any cunt that calls me or anyone else "bro" though should be tied to a gate and shot in the bag with balls of their own shite.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on August 30, 2022, 04:34:58 AM
Shot with individual balls of shite from a bag or shot with an entire bag that is filled with balls of shite?
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Caomhaoin on September 03, 2022, 09:39:26 PM
The shocking standard of Graves at Sea lyrics. They have some belters of choons, but god almighty they make Chris Barnes' ridiculous SFU scribblings look like Siegfried Sassoon.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Despondent_Soul2 on September 07, 2022, 09:20:05 AM
Quote from: Pentagrimes on January 18, 2020, 10:46:22 AMPeople not reading the original post in forum threads before posting in them.

Also I'll go one further than Juggz: Bullet belts. Of all the ridiculous metal fashion accessories these are the lamest-you dont have a gun and unless you're Lemmy or Sarcofago in 1987,you look like an absolute twat. If you absolutely insist on wearing one then go the whole hog and wear a sombrero and poncho as well you fucking poser.

The utterly weird business like approach some (particularly Northern) bands on this island have. Treat your music like a product and itll be discarded as such because its utterly disposable. "Professional" metal in this country is ridiculous.


Yep 'scene' in North is an absolute joke. Always has been
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Bürggermeister on September 07, 2022, 09:58:31 AM
The weird upswing headbanging technique which seems to be compulsory for all female singers in metal bands.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Giggles on September 07, 2022, 02:48:10 PM
Upswing headbanging is sexy as fuck and is second only to sideways head shaking:

https://youtu.be/adzzQcPGNwQ
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on September 07, 2022, 03:10:16 PM
When I saw Ufomammut live, the vocalist had a really weird way of head-banging, with loads of those upswing yokes, to the point it was putting me off the performance  :laugh:
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Bürggermeister on September 09, 2022, 07:42:04 AM
Unimaginative press releases copied and pasted into unimaginative journalism

Midwest death machine, Casket Robbery
Canadian progressive symphonic metal band, Osyron
Arkansas avant-garde doom quartet, Pallbearer
Isafjørd, meaning literally fjord of ice, is a shining new ethereal post-rock band from Iceland
Copenhagen's most visceral metal export, Cabal
Italian fantasy power metallers RuinThrone
US black metal titans Wolves In The Throne Room
Swedish melodic death metal juggernauts The Halo Effect
Southern Californian death/thrash battalion, Exmortus
German symphonic metal icons Xandria
Austrian death metal icons Mastic Scum
Cathartic black metal titans, Gaerea
Virtuosic extreme metallers, Obscura
Brussels-based rock sensation, Black Mirrors
Dark melodic metal masters, Evergrey
Finnish Love Metal pioneer, Ville Valo





Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Despondent_Soul2 on October 05, 2022, 06:43:05 PM
People jumping into threads just to voice negative thoughts for no other reason than they are an elitist prick! Yes we know you hate Florida DM and similar - we dont all have to love 'pagan ambient black doom trad trve shoegaze art' do we?
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Thorn on October 05, 2022, 09:37:42 PM
What the hell lads?!
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: hellfire on October 06, 2022, 04:58:50 PM
Anyone I've ever heard using the term elitist doesn't listen to metal anymore. Tends to be used by the just passing through types.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Despondent_Soul2 on October 06, 2022, 06:20:33 PM
Quote from: hellfire on October 06, 2022, 04:58:50 PMAnyone I've ever heard using the term elitist doesn't listen to metal anymore. Tends to be used by the just passing through types.

Well i must be exception then eh? First demo was way back in 1991 and little Metalhead for years before that and since👍
Only people i ever see defending elitist's is other elitist's strangely enough🤔
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: hellfire on October 06, 2022, 06:32:59 PM
Enjoy those five Metallica CDs brah
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Despondent_Soul2 on October 06, 2022, 06:45:00 PM
Quote from: hellfire on October 06, 2022, 06:32:59 PMEnjoy those five Metallica CDs brah

👏👏 Enjoy your incel Black Metal x

Hellfire - soldier of EM and defender of the old MI ways of elitist asshole behaviour
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: hellfire on October 06, 2022, 06:51:47 PM
 :laugh: we haven't had a decent troll in ages. Thanks for stopping by.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Despondent_Soul2 on October 06, 2022, 06:53:22 PM
Quote from: hellfire on October 06, 2022, 06:51:47 PM:laugh: we haven't had a decent troll in ages. Thanks for stopping by.

'we' always stands out with your type. Johnny come lately
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on October 06, 2022, 07:05:52 PM
tbh, people who don't listen to metal anymore don't talk about elitists because they no longer care they even exist  :laugh:
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Snare on October 06, 2022, 07:11:03 PM
The sticker's along the top of Relapse Record CD's, urgh!  Coming off in numerous tiny bits, and the sticky glue staying behind!  >:(
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Thorn on October 06, 2022, 09:09:26 PM
Yep that's a right bugger alright and totally needless
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on October 06, 2022, 09:32:16 PM
Relapse are shocking for that alright.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: hellfire on October 06, 2022, 10:54:35 PM
There was a second hand store in Waterford with the worst labels ever. These things used to bind to paper like skin does to superglue (don't ask about the superglue). There was an art to getting the bastard things off.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Snare on October 06, 2022, 11:30:50 PM
And their "For Fans of..." stickers. I got Pig Destroyer "Phantom Limb" yesterday, and this big feck-off sticker claimed it's for fans of Slayer, Mastadon, Lamb of God, Melvins... Really?? And there's no hope of removing this sticker  >:( Unless of course you have hard won experience of a 2nd hand shop in Waterford!
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Carnage on October 07, 2022, 02:00:03 AM
Hairdryer lads, melt the adhesive. Low setting and patience.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: open face surgery on October 07, 2022, 09:11:51 AM
People spelling Mastodon wrong  :abbath:
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Snare on October 07, 2022, 09:24:45 AM
 :laugh:
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Pentagrimes on October 07, 2022, 05:10:37 PM
Quote from: Snare on October 06, 2022, 11:30:50 PM:( Unless of course you have hard won experience of a 2nd hand shop in Waterford!

Ahem...

Was this Luca records?You probably paid over the odds for it too ;D
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: hellfire on October 07, 2022, 06:02:23 PM
The stickers in Rainbow were the ones that were impossible to get off. Luca records is a joke. €80 for a recent press of the Fear Factory album Soul of A New Machine anyone?
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: leatherface on October 30, 2022, 01:36:03 PM
To each his own and all that but I see far too many lads in bands with big, long, grey beards. If you aren't 65 + years of age with a bus pass, or if you didn't do a stint in ZZ TOP, is that really a good look? By far the most ridiculous of late is Rob Halford, who may actually qualify for a bus pass come to think of it.

Again, to each his own.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Bürggermeister on October 30, 2022, 04:49:37 PM
If they didn't have beards, you'd see the all the double chins and turkey necks.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: leatherface on October 30, 2022, 05:37:36 PM
Quote from: Bürggermeister on October 30, 2022, 04:49:37 PMIf they didn't have beards, you'd see the all the double chins and turkey necks.

perhaps  :laugh:
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on June 08, 2024, 09:12:06 AM
After receiving my Anno Domini Black Sabbath CD box set and being disappointed by the el cheapo layout I just fired on the Non Serviam reissue LP so you get two moans for the price of one (Don't worry, I'll still rip you off).

The Non Serviam booklet contains a decent in depth look at the recording of the album and there are several (at least one) mentions of how brilliant the lyrics are, of how much Jim Mutilator has developed as a lyricist and delved further than ever before into his occult studies for inspiration.

The only thing missing from the booklet? The goddamn motherfucking lyrics  :o Genius.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Snare on June 08, 2024, 10:16:12 AM
:laugh:

My metal pet peeve would be the Vinyl Repress issue of classic metal records.There's no insert whatsoever so you have to pull out your old tapes for tiny lyrics etc.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on June 08, 2024, 10:27:37 AM
Quote from: Snare on June 08, 2024, 10:16:12 AM:laugh:

My metal pet peeve would be the Vinyl Repress issue of classic metal records.There's no insert whatsoever so you have to pull out your old tapes for tiny lyrics etc.

I actually bought the recent Floga tape reissue of Non Serviam in Japan a couple of months ago so I have listened to the LP while reading the tape insert with one eye closed and arms outstretched... not ideal.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Snare on June 08, 2024, 10:33:26 AM
 :laugh: The joys of old age!

The Originals CD boxset of the first 3 Megadeth albums is cool in that the CD's are slipcases with inserts being replicas of the LP formats. Cool out but I'd probably be straining at this stage to read them! :D
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on June 08, 2024, 10:38:48 AM
Quote from: Snare on June 08, 2024, 10:33:26 AM:laugh: The joys of old age!

The Originals CD boxset of the first 3 Megadeth albums is cool in that the CD's are slipcases with inserts being replicas of the LP formats. Cool out but I'd probably be straining at this stage to read them! :D

Lying on the couch in your robe and slippers with a cup of tea, scrutinizing Megadeth lyrics with the lyric sheet blue tacked to the end of a long stick with a pair of binoculars gaffataped to your face guarantees a swift, one way trip to the cheapest nursing home your loved ones can find.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Sworntothecans on June 08, 2024, 11:43:40 AM
Quote from: hellfire on October 07, 2022, 06:02:23 PMThe stickers in Rainbow were the ones that were impossible to get off. Luca records is a joke. €80 for a recent press of the Fear Factory album Soul of A New Machine anyone?

That's the standard price unfortunately. And it's Warner's that's distributing  so they'd have the thumb on the scales too.

Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on June 08, 2024, 01:31:34 PM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on June 08, 2024, 10:38:48 AM
Quote from: Snare on June 08, 2024, 10:33:26 AM:laugh: The joys of old age!

The Originals CD boxset of the first 3 Megadeth albums is cool in that the CD's are slipcases with inserts being replicas of the LP formats. Cool out but I'd probably be straining at this stage to read them! :D

Lying on the couch in your robe and slippers with a cup of tea, scrutinizing Megadeth lyrics with the lyric sheet blue tacked to the end of a long stick with a pair of binoculars gaffataped to your face guarantees a swift, one way trip to the cheapest nursing home your loved ones can find.

If you squint really hard on the original cassette inlay of Peace Sells..., just after "Something's comin' over me, what the fuck is this?" you can just make out the words "Old age."
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on June 08, 2024, 01:33:26 PM
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on June 08, 2024, 01:31:34 PM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on June 08, 2024, 10:38:48 AM
Quote from: Snare on June 08, 2024, 10:33:26 AM:laugh: The joys of old age!

The Originals CD boxset of the first 3 Megadeth albums is cool in that the CD's are slipcases with inserts being replicas of the LP formats. Cool out but I'd probably be straining at this stage to read them! :D

Lying on the couch in your robe and slippers with a cup of tea, scrutinizing Megadeth lyrics with the lyric sheet blue tacked to the end of a long stick with a pair of binoculars gaffataped to your face guarantees a swift, one way trip to the cheapest nursing home your loved ones can find.

If you squint really hard on the original cassette inlay of Peace Sells..., just after "Something's comin' over me, what the fuck is this?" you can just make out the words "Old age."

I honestly didn't know where you were going with that for a minute...
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Thorn on June 08, 2024, 06:24:48 PM
 :laugh:
Ah man, I'm almost done with the hassle of reading lyrics these days, my eyes called time on that for sure. Having said that and with the mention of Floga ,I've just had Runemagick's second album reissue on and the lyrics printed on the inside of the gatefold are a charm to read. Go Floga.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Necro Red on June 10, 2024, 10:10:28 AM
Probably mentioned already, but big silly backprints on tshirts and hoodies. I've sold a good few shirts with silly backprints. Some were admidrunken purchases ha ha
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on July 26, 2024, 11:53:41 AM
I just saw a new review of Need to Control on Metal Archives... 30%

Having contrary opinions is fine to a point but I have to draw the line here. That deserves a punch in the balls.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Carnage on July 26, 2024, 12:19:42 PM
I'd give it 50 or 60 at most myself. Some great stuff on it but some subpar stuff too. Extreme Conditions is their only top notch album for me.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Ducky on July 26, 2024, 12:22:19 PM
Had a skim of it there and it's sadly like most user "reviews" - either the best thing to ever exist, or close to the worst. No nuance in between.

Sure there's two reviews on there that peg Reign in Blood at 45%.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on July 26, 2024, 12:29:02 PM
Need to Control is close to 100% for me. The creativity and variety mixed with incredibly memorable yet wild and vicious music... sublime.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Ducky on July 26, 2024, 12:32:20 PM
It's always been my favourite BT album too. I'd say a "modern" classic, but it's creeping up on its 30th birthday. 'Sake  :laugh:
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Carnage on July 26, 2024, 12:50:06 PM
BT were the first band I wrote to back in the day that actually took the time to write back so I'll always love and respect them for that, but unfortunately ECDER is the only one of theirs that clicked. The more they became stoners, the less listenable they became to me.

NTC is an odd one, very inconsistent IMO - but maybe that's the variety McLove mentioned just missing the mark with me - but it does have one of my favourite BT songs/riffs in Choice Of A New Generation. The production's a bit thinner, I think Richardson just mixed as opposed to recording/engineering.

Another thing: the first time I heard it, a mate had loaned me the vinyl boxset with all the different sized records and it was just a fucking pain playing it. All of the songs are out of order to fit the discs and there's a few different songs thrown in too. That probably biased me against it along the way.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Ducky on July 26, 2024, 01:05:46 PM
The variety is what helps it for me TBH.

It's very much an album I enjoy as an album; insert disc, press play on track one, don't touch until it finishes. The out-of-whack running order sounds kinda shite.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on July 26, 2024, 01:26:50 PM
Right, who's going to say something controversial about Brutal Truth so we can get an old school grind love-in going??
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Sworntothecans on July 26, 2024, 02:19:45 PM
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on July 26, 2024, 01:26:50 PMRight, who's going to say something controversial about Brutal Truth so we can get an old school grind love-in going??

Rich Hoak looks weird as fuck playing drums!


(He's great though 😁)
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Anvil on July 26, 2024, 02:22:05 PM
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on July 26, 2024, 01:26:50 PMRight, who's going to say something controversial about Brutal Truth so we can get an old school grind love-in going??

Would saying I have never heard one second of their music be considered controversial enough?
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Ducky on July 26, 2024, 02:26:06 PM
Quote from: Anvil on July 26, 2024, 02:22:05 PM
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on July 26, 2024, 01:26:50 PMRight, who's going to say something controversial about Brutal Truth so we can get an old school grind love-in going??

Would saying I have never heard one second of their music be considered controversial enough?

Seems like a pretty good reason to start your own grind love-in with them!
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Yung Led Zeppelin on July 26, 2024, 04:37:02 PM
This extends to music in general I suppose but people referring to bands with shortened names, "Seps" for Sepultura being a particularly shit one.

Cuntish. Fuck off.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on July 26, 2024, 07:02:28 PM
Surely Led Zep gets a pass??  :laugh:
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Bürggermeister on July 26, 2024, 07:26:09 PM
'tallica is surely legitimate to describe the cunts once they tried to turn their back on Metal?
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: open face surgery on July 26, 2024, 07:29:39 PM
Quote from: Yung Led Zeppelin on July 26, 2024, 04:37:02 PMThis extends to music in general I suppose but people referring to bands with shortened names, "Seps" for Sepultura being a particularly shit one.

Cuntish. Fuck off.

 :laugh: Just used it.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Thorn on July 26, 2024, 07:48:02 PM
Never minded 'Seps' myself, just a term of endearment really
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on July 26, 2024, 10:24:25 PM
A chap I hung around with in the mid 90s was a fanatic for Sepultura but his nick name was Horse. He tried getting us to call him Sep instead so of course we started just calling him Sap. He settled for Horse pretty quickly after that  :laugh:
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on August 28, 2024, 02:41:03 PM
A lad used to hang around in the same group as me before he moved to 'Murica listens to metal via Spotify at the gym. Only at the gym. And because I'm the only one left out of that group who still regularly listens to metal, he always sends me whichever recent "discoveries" have been thrust upon him via the algorithm, all excited about how great it is for pumping away at machines. Unsurprisingly it's invariably utter braindead shite, and the track he's just after sending me now, Buttman from the album The Shitpendables by Gutalax, is no exception  :-X

So I suppose the peeve is being the resident metaller who has to entertain anyone else's sporadic forays into the shallowest parts of the pool. And no matter how many times you recommend them a quality version of the shite... they just come back with more different shite!!
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Sworntothecans on August 28, 2024, 02:55:26 PM
Nothing worse than a normie recommending a "metal" band.
I've given up with recommendations. 

Gutalax are desperate. I enjoy the random daft grind bands sets on the the Obscene Extreme YouTube but fucking hell they're awful. They make the "Fat Lad with a guitar and laptop" pornogrind bands seem like Zappa.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on August 28, 2024, 02:56:50 PM
I was certainly happier having never heard of them.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Ducky on August 28, 2024, 03:55:51 PM
I thought you were taking the piss with those names, but holy shit you weren't.

"Clear search history" here I come :laugh:
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: astfgyl on August 28, 2024, 06:51:32 PM
Quote from: Bürggermeister on July 26, 2024, 07:26:09 PM'tallica is surely legitimate to describe the cunts once they tried to turn their back on Metal?


Very good! Absolutely
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Mooncat on August 28, 2024, 07:24:58 PM
Was at a local metal show at the weekend. Was a young band on who very nearly completed amateur band live peeve bingo all in the one set:

Singer who talked in pig grunt vocals between songs
Guitar players who didn't turn down volume between songs so it was huge buzzing at all times
Drummer who would randomly noodle and play fills between songs so everyone has to wait until he's done to move onto the next song
Referring to the crowd as 'Edmonton' despite the fact they're a local band and have never played anywhere else

All they needed for bingo was to try and get a circle pit going with the 20 people there (singer included of course), and for the guitar players to have set their pints of beer on their (borrowed) amps.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Born of Fire on September 25, 2024, 01:38:16 PM
The fact that for some reason there's 2 versions of Repugnant - Epitome of Darkness and Spotify has the poorer version. The vocals have a kind of echo effect on the version on Spotify which is very grating when you're used to the other version where the vocals are much clearer and sound more powerful.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Pentagrimes on September 25, 2024, 02:23:08 PM
Quote from: Born of Fire on September 25, 2024, 01:38:16 PMThe fact that for some reason there's 2 versions of Repugnant - Epitome of Darkness and Spotify has the poorer version. The vocals have a kind of echo effect on the version on Spotify which is very grating when you're used to the other version where the vocals are much clearer and sound more powerful.

The fact I'm certain I own this lp on vinyl and cannot find my copy
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: open face surgery on September 25, 2024, 03:56:58 PM
Spotify deleted and reuploaded RevBiz - In the Rectory..(German Version) a while ago and the quality is shocking to the point it even glitches out during Cirith Ungol.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Ollkiller on September 25, 2024, 04:39:34 PM
Quote from: Mooncat on August 28, 2024, 07:24:58 PMWas at a local metal show at the weekend. Was a young band on who very nearly completed amateur band live peeve bingo all in the one set:

Singer who talked in pig grunt vocals between songs
Guitar players who didn't turn down volume between songs so it was huge buzzing at all times
Drummer who would randomly noodle and play fills between songs so everyone has to wait until he's done to move onto the next song
Referring to the crowd as 'Edmonton' despite the fact they're a local band and have never played anywhere else

All they needed for bingo was to try and get a circle pit going with the 20 people there (singer included of course), and for the guitar players to have set their pints of beer on their (borrowed) amps.

Did the play Bulls on Parade. Every fucking young band plays that fucking song.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Yung Led Zeppelin on September 26, 2024, 07:59:52 AM
There's a band called Corecass.

That's silly.

I don't like it.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Pentagrimes on September 26, 2024, 11:59:09 AM
A minor gripe, but the enclaves of snobbery of Original pressings v Reissues.

I've spent a lot of time over the last 10 years in particular replacing copies of records I had in my childhood up to mid teens that I'd lost or sold along the road to adulthood. Im more than happy to have a decent reissue of one of the classics and have a record that's important to me back in the collection, and I couldn't care less if its not the versaion from 35 years ago on Under One Flag or Noise or not, cos I dont have 200 quid to spare on an OG replacement copy of "Ride The Lightning" or whatever!
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: jobrok1 on September 26, 2024, 11:13:05 PM
When fellas call it TRASH when everyone and their geebag mother knows it's fucking THRASH...!!!
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on September 26, 2024, 11:26:37 PM
It's TRANS you goddamn bigot.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Yung Led Zeppelin on September 27, 2024, 08:49:09 AM
Quote from: jobrok1 on September 26, 2024, 11:13:05 PMWhen fellas call it TRASH when everyone and their geebag mother knows it's fucking THRASH...!!!

Fair bit of it is trash as well in fairness though  :abbath:
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Necro Red on September 27, 2024, 11:14:43 AM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on September 26, 2024, 11:26:37 PMIt's TRANS you goddamn bigot.
I'm surprised Transmetal isn't a genre yet. Would ya pay to see Slayheher  :laugh:
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on September 27, 2024, 12:38:38 PM
Along with Metallicbra, Suicidal Hendencies, Obitchuary and Sheicide.  Finally a bit of progress in the chauvinist world of heavy metal.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: The Heretic on September 27, 2024, 12:41:03 PM
Cinderfella
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Bürggermeister on September 27, 2024, 01:02:08 PM
Vag Halen
Clitallica
Mammstein
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Trev on September 27, 2024, 01:27:51 PM
Quote from: Bürggermeister on September 27, 2024, 01:02:08 PMVag Halen
:laugh:
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: The Wretch on September 27, 2024, 01:57:02 PM
Quote from: Bürggermeister on September 27, 2024, 01:02:08 PMVag Halen

They already had that with Sammy Hagar.  Or Van Gina, which ever you prefer.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Maggot Colony on September 27, 2024, 02:31:00 PM
Butch at Birth

Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Sworntothecans on September 27, 2024, 02:35:34 PM
Quote from: Pentagrimes on September 26, 2024, 11:59:09 AMA minor gripe, but the enclaves of snobbery of Original pressings v Reissues.

I've spent a lot of time over the last 10 years in particular replacing copies of records I had in my childhood up to mid teens that I'd lost or sold along the road to adulthood. Im more than happy to have a decent reissue of one of the classics and have a record that's important to me back in the collection, and I couldn't care less if its not the versaion from 35 years ago on Under One Flag or Noise or not, cos I dont have 200 quid to spare on an OG replacement copy of "Ride The Lightning" or whatever!

Yeah, it's great knocking stuff off the Discogs wishlist, but fucking hell some of those geebags have more money than sense. Records are pricey enough nowadays but I'll usually go for the repress as it's more reasonable than an OG.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Necro Red on September 28, 2024, 10:21:15 AM
Quote from: Sworntothecans on September 27, 2024, 02:35:34 PM
Quote from: Pentagrimes on September 26, 2024, 11:59:09 AMA minor gripe, but the enclaves of snobbery of Original pressings v Reissues.

I've spent a lot of time over the last 10 years in particular replacing copies of records I had in my childhood up to mid teens that I'd lost or sold along the road to adulthood. Im more than happy to have a decent reissue of one of the classics and have a record that's important to me back in the collection, and I couldn't care less if its not the versaion from 35 years ago on Under One Flag or Noise or not, cos I dont have 200 quid to spare on an OG replacement copy of "Ride The Lightning" or whatever!

Yeah, it's great knocking stuff off the Discogs wishlist, but fucking hell some of those geebags have more money than sense. Records are pricey enough nowadays but I'll usually go for the repress as it's more reasonable than an OG.
same as, I don't mind finding an oldie at a fair for a decent price, but I'd rather have a nice shiny new one that isn't battered. I suppose my collection is a bit of both really
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Thorn on December 08, 2024, 09:32:32 PM
Getting a promo email from the once iconic Nuclear Blast offering the chance to win 'a stylish Monster Energy backpack'. Get ta fuck
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Sworntothecans on December 09, 2024, 08:31:51 PM
Quote from: Thorn on December 08, 2024, 09:32:32 PMGetting a promo email from the once iconic Nuclear Blast offering the chance to win 'a stylish Monster Energy backpack'. Get ta fuck

Corporate synergy 🤮
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Thorn on December 09, 2024, 08:38:21 PM
Ok....had to look that up but yeah I get it. Still, me and Nuclear Blast have gone our own ways. Sad, after them playing such a huge part in my music buying teens
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Carnage on December 09, 2024, 09:07:57 PM
Anthrax put their last couple out through them, didn't they? Joey Belladonna is constantly wearing Monster gear, even in his shots for the documentary series a few years back it was very prominent. Some sponsorship deals going on there, methinks.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Thorn on December 09, 2024, 09:19:50 PM
Yeah and fair enough  you can't blame these legacy bands for finally getting a few quid in their pockets , good luck to 'em but ..yeah, not for me. Monster Energy drink speaks of a different culture and it's the antithesis of what I know as Metal.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Carnage on December 09, 2024, 09:26:20 PM
I've always associated that kind of sponsorship, energy drinks and the like with the Pantera side of things. Maybe not them specifically but that kind of lowest common denominator, knuckle dragging metal. I suppose Anthrax have been associated with them for a while, and have never been adverse to making a few bob - extortionate merch prices and and Scott Ian was the first one I remember selling VIP meet & greet 'experiences' for many dolla.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Thorn on December 09, 2024, 09:39:42 PM
Yeah, back in the day you'd go out of your way to not wear brand names, now ,as you say, they're ubiquitous with a certain ,base level, metaaaal
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Sworntothecans on December 10, 2024, 12:43:54 PM
Quote from: Carnage on December 09, 2024, 09:07:57 PMAnthrax put their last couple out through them, didn't they? Joey Belladonna is constantly wearing Monster gear, even in his shots for the documentary series a few years back it was very prominent. Some sponsorship deals going on there, methinks.

Think yer  man Jasta from Hatebreed was saying that Monster do tend to throw a decent bit of cash with the endorsements.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Ducky on December 10, 2024, 01:50:28 PM
My last three Nuclear Blast emails were win an Ironnail Fashion package (who/what now?), win a Dimmu Borgir test pressing, Monster Energy.

Ugh yeah, should probably unsubscribe.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Pentagrimes on December 10, 2024, 03:22:18 PM
god those original Nuclear Blast catalogues when I was a kid were unreal, like little zines full of all kinds of obscure records, then they upgraded to the glossier format around the time Dissection came along..haven't seen one since then. But their distro was my go to for blowing pocket money on obscure 7"s and cds
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Sworntothecans on December 10, 2024, 04:30:23 PM
Another pet peeve with Nuclear Blast:the way they tag their albums on Apple Music/Itunes.

All those random comps show up splitting certain albums.
Absolute pain in the balls!

Now I reckon part of the blame is with Apple too as it was a fucking chore id tagging stuff in the iPod days.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Thorn on December 10, 2024, 04:45:59 PM
Just had that Ironnail one as well, might grab myself a nice anorak. Yep, time to block them. Correction, time to ask my child how to block them.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on December 28, 2024, 09:08:08 PM
Is there anything less black metal than drummers wearing earpieces or headphones? The concept of professionalism within black metal puts me off more and more. I want hate, evil and darkness, not fucking paradiddles!
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Bürggermeister on December 28, 2024, 11:02:32 PM
Is tinnitvs kvlt?

I don't mind discreet in-ears but big ear goggles on drummers, or any musician actually, in a live setting, looks fucking dopey. The current Megadeth guy is a prime example. It would look extra sad on a black metal lad, to be fair.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Mithrandir on December 31, 2024, 06:59:53 AM
Silly take from Pestilence, A sure sign you're too old for it.

QuoteI have to get something of my chest. This constant bs about metal bands using A.I. albumcovers more and more. There are a few reasons.

First, huge budgets for real paintings are a thing of the past. Secondly, the idea of having mutilated bodies, zombies and extreme gore are also a thing of the past for Pestilemce.

When you want to survive in the nowadays industry  you have to adapt and Pestilence has always been known to look ahead and never fall back into the old habits not just music style wise but every other new release has had a new approach to our own musically, unlike most acts that rely on their older legacy.

When we released "Levels of Perception" that was aimed to revisited the demo style recording, that was asked for by many fans, they didn't like the production they asked for themselves. With "Portals" we will, again, follow our own path and you could teally dig it. As an example this "drawing" was considered to be amazing on my personal FB site. This is also A.I., and is an amazing piece of art. Not the albumcover by the way!!!

And now the real question: would you not buy and album with killer production and song just because a cover is A.I.? Then you are not listening to our compositions that are fully handmade. But rather are concerned with the 40× past you have been living in. Start embracing the future of music that is Pestilence.

Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Bürggermeister on December 31, 2024, 07:02:09 AM
Why so?
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Mithrandir on December 31, 2024, 08:42:10 AM
Well, it's silly that he can't comprehend why people have an issue with them using AI artwork and once you start ranting on facebook your band loses any credibility you may have had to me. Also in regards to 'Levels of Perception' the fact he thought that this is what people wanted is laughable, what a terrible idea with an even worse execution. Thinking by having a shitty recording of new material is going back to your demo days shows how out of touch he is. Pestilence haven't released anything good in 30+ years, well past hanging up the boots time.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Bürggermeister on December 31, 2024, 08:53:35 AM
There seems to be little logic in what people will and won't accept. Sampled, corrected and even programmed drums are widely accepted, digitally modelled guitar amps are now the norm and nobody gives a shit. AI is already being used to mix recordings. Soon nobody will give a shit about AI artwork, but we're still dawdling at the point where we have to wait for it to not be an issue like all the other stuff which is now the norm. There's no fucking doubt he's not alone with that opinion but he's one of the few who has the balls to say it aloud. Fair play to him for highlighting the stupidity of it, I say.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on December 31, 2024, 09:05:05 AM
Spheres.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Bürggermeister on December 31, 2024, 09:11:32 AM
 :laugh:  :abbath:
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Sworntothecans on December 31, 2024, 09:43:39 AM
He's a bit of a gobshite. Big 'roidy head on him.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on December 31, 2024, 10:18:19 AM
fuck generative AI from the highest height. don't feel like elaborating this morning, so just that.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Necro Red on December 31, 2024, 10:21:59 AM
Quote from: Bürggermeister on December 31, 2024, 08:53:35 AMThere seems to be little logic in what people will and won't accept. Sampled, corrected and even programmed drums are widely accepted, digitally modelled guitar amps are now the norm and nobody gives a shit. AI is already being used to mix recordings. Soon nobody will give a shit about AI artwork, but we're still dawdling at the point where we have to wait for it to not be an issue like all the other stuff which is now the norm. There's no fucking doubt he's not alone with that opinion but he's one of the few who has the balls to say it aloud. Fair play to him for highlighting the stupidity of it, I say.
I would tend to agree. If the artwork looks cool that is of course.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Bürggermeister on December 31, 2024, 10:35:33 AM
Yeah, of course. Shit is shit but the music is the important bit for me, I couldn't really give a fuck who did the artwork. In fact, I'd trade eternally shit artwork if we could get rid of clicky triggered and qauntised drums and go back to mic'ing up acoustic kits, lesser of two evils and all that  :D
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Ducky on December 31, 2024, 03:28:19 PM
To crossover a bit from the Nevermore thread, on paper I'm against A.I.-generated art, but if it existed in 1996 then I'm sure it could've shat out a better job than the sleeve art to "The Politics of Ecstasy" that we got. Doubly so that (I assume) a few people would've had to sign off on it, and someone got paid to create it.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/19/Nevermore_The_Politics_of_Ecstasy.jpg)
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Sworntothecans on December 31, 2024, 09:55:03 PM
Nevermore"Can we get Dave McKean?
Century Media"Fuck no. you can have Johnny the intern-he works for Iced Earth shirts and label samplers"
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Pentagrimes on January 01, 2025, 12:24:32 PM
Pestilence have only ever been "the future of music" when someone has seen the future of music before them.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: fosmetal on January 01, 2025, 06:36:17 PM
I understand the opposition to AI-generated artwork.

At the same time, neither The Abyss nor Tron were nominated for Best Visual Effects at the Oscars, on the explicit grounds that they'd used CGI, which the Academy considered "cheating". Now, of course, you'd be hard pressed to find a film nominated for that award in the past ten years (or even twenty) which doesn't use CGI in some capacity. I do strongly suspect we'll look back on the initial controversy over AI-generated artwork in much the same way.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: The Heretic on January 04, 2025, 11:44:36 AM
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Thorn on January 04, 2025, 01:30:56 PM
 :laugh:
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Ducky on January 09, 2025, 01:39:02 PM
Metal-adjacent of course, but shout out to the Stone Temple Pilots having some of the worst lyrics I've ever heard.

"Core" in particular is a good album that the lyrics transform it into something I'd rather use as a frisbee.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Carnage on January 09, 2025, 02:40:45 PM
I've always hated that album (which made life with my then girlfriend just great as she absolutely loved it), always thought it was a mishmash of ideas ripped off fron the big grunge bands of the day.

In terms of the lyrics, I can't remember much apart from that Dead And Bloated song being particularly awful.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Ducky on January 09, 2025, 02:50:33 PM
The first verse from "Creep"  :-X  :-X  :-X

QuoteForward yesterday, makes me wanna stay
What they said was real, makes me wanna steal
Livin' under house, guess I'm livin', I'm a mouse
All's I got is time, got no meanin', just a rhyme

Embarrassingly bad, but I've always wondered is the last line self awareness?  :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh: 
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on January 09, 2025, 06:21:34 PM
Their lyrics are sometimes dubious alright but it doesn't stop Core or Purple from being the business   8)
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Sworntothecans on January 17, 2025, 12:37:35 AM
The existence of Sabaton. Such shite.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Mithrandir on January 17, 2025, 12:50:44 AM
Quote from: Sworntothecans on January 17, 2025, 12:37:35 AMThe existence of Sabaton. Such shite.

I will never get over me standing waiting for Manowar at Hellfest and these cunts walk on and play in front of the Manowar stage setup. I know not their fault but fuck them all the same. 
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: ldj on January 21, 2025, 03:15:07 PM
The way the lad from Church of Misery hangs his bass, a low slung guitar can look cool but this is just retarded.


(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b3/Church_of_Misery_-_Tuska_2011_-_01.JPG)
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Sworntothecans on January 21, 2025, 03:26:05 PM
It's all the weed and shrooms dude!
Think yer man from Suffocation is the worst for looking like a twat on stage with a bass.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: The Heretic on January 21, 2025, 04:11:01 PM
He looks like he'd rather be playing with his cock
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Bürggermeister on January 21, 2025, 04:47:45 PM
He makes Trujillo look like a badass.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: The Great Cull on January 21, 2025, 04:49:53 PM
Quote from: The Heretic on January 21, 2025, 04:11:01 PMHe looks like he'd rather be playing with his cock

He looks like he'd rather be playing with your cock
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: The Great Cull on January 21, 2025, 04:50:56 PM
Quote from: Sworntothecans on January 17, 2025, 12:37:35 AMThe existence of Sabaton. Such shite.

Terrible, terrible band. Music for people with no taste..... or friends
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: ldj on January 21, 2025, 05:08:00 PM
I think it's the bass of choice that annoys me more than anything, a Rickenbacker is quite possibly the coolest bass ever made, and you're going to do THAT with it!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on January 21, 2025, 07:08:42 PM
Exactly. A Rickenbacker is a man's bass so play it like a man!
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 21, 2025, 07:15:18 PM
He's gonna need more than reiki to fix the damage that posture's doing him!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Ducky on January 22, 2025, 12:54:52 AM
I'll take the jazz-fusion "strapped to the chest" look over that any day of the week.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Carnage on January 26, 2025, 12:35:05 AM
Just had a clip of Sevendust come up randomly tbere, their bassist does the same as COM bloke. Ridiculous.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Trev on January 30, 2025, 09:59:34 AM
Albums that don't come in standard sized jewel cases/digipacks.

Picked up a couple of the King Diamond and Mercyful Fate cds I was missing and they're taller and skinnier than a normal cd case, supposedly they're "mini vinyl replicas". Just looks fucking stupid beside the rest of the albums
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Carnage on January 30, 2025, 10:16:56 AM
The Iced Earth reissues a while back were the same. They look nice and all, but don't fit anywhere.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Mithrandir on January 31, 2025, 05:17:43 AM
I remember I bought one of the cult of fire albums years ago and it arrived in a card slipcase like a free metal hammer CD, I felt robbed  :laugh:
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Pentagrimes on February 01, 2025, 11:47:59 AM
Not sure it's a peeve exactly, but I'm slightly baffled by the resurgence of Goregrind. I mean when I was 17 or whatever I loved stuff like Murder Basket,Undinism,Gore Beyond Necropsy etc but it's definitely the most generic of death metal subgenres and one area that absolutely hasn't improved or developed over time (which is maybe why it's popular now). it just seems..I dunno..silly? And it seems like there's loads of new bands popping up in the style relatively suddenly.The "Peeve" part though for me is the pitch shifted vocals.Hate them.

Having said that, there are always exceptions, Sewer Haul and Pus Emulsion are alright.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Thorn on February 14, 2025, 07:19:08 PM
Reeking Aura's new 'EP' being just over 10 mins long.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: astfgyl on February 15, 2025, 02:58:03 PM
Quote from: Trev on January 30, 2025, 09:59:34 AMAlbums that don't come in standard sized jewel cases/digipacks.

Picked up a couple of the King Diamond and Mercyful Fate cds I was missing and they're taller and skinnier than a normal cd case, supposedly they're "mini vinyl replicas". Just looks fucking stupid beside the rest of the albums

This also kills me. Everything lined up nicely and then 3 or 4 albums sticking out of it all. Used to do alphabetical and chronological on my cds and it would really fuck me up back then
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: The Great Cull on February 25, 2025, 10:44:10 AM
Just saw this article of another example of just how gross an island this place was in the 80s

https://www.guitarplayer.com/guitarists/bruce-kulick-my-best-and-worst-gigs-with-kiss

Thank fuck this died out.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Sworntothecans on February 25, 2025, 11:14:28 AM
Quote from: The Great Cull on February 25, 2025, 10:44:10 AMJust saw this article of another example of just how gross an island this place was in the 80s

https://www.guitarplayer.com/guitarists/bruce-kulick-my-best-and-worst-gigs-with-kiss

Thank fuck this died out.

Aye. Vile as fuck. Put plenty of artists off from playing here.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Trev on February 25, 2025, 11:24:29 AM
Remember hearing this with a few other bands, think Anthrax and Megadeth might have mentioned it, but what was the deal with it? Could never understand why someone would spit all over a band
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Anvil on February 25, 2025, 12:13:14 PM
Spitting on bands was a punk thing, no idea why... that and throwing bottles of piss at people is just vile to me. 
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Squigs on February 25, 2025, 12:38:46 PM
The thing I never get, is that it was a show of appreciation. It would be one thing if it was to intimidate or repulse the band but it was people enjoying themselves gobbing on a band they paid to see and are enjoying.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Bürggermeister on February 25, 2025, 01:14:21 PM
It happened at every gig I was at in the late 80's until Anthrax walked off in 89, then it really died down, very much became an isolated thing by one or two cunts rather than gobbing en masse, and eventually died out altogether.

Incidentally, while Belfast had Kiss that night, Metallica were playing the Top Hat... and they got gobbed on too.

I remember Mustaine brought it up, Blackie Lawless too with W.A.S.P. and Anthrax stopped the show a couple of times to appeal for a stop to it. Scott Ian had gone on his hole after slipping in it and a roadie had to come out to dry the stage a with a towel (not because of Creation's Tears' sweat, thankfully). That's how bad it was.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: mickO))) on February 25, 2025, 01:19:59 PM
Didn't someone on here or the old forum say that Mike Patton at an FNM show somewhere in Ireland had his mouth opening during one of these times trying to catch people's spit.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Bürggermeister on February 25, 2025, 01:21:46 PM
Jesus yeah, when they played the Top Hat with Prong, you brought that memory back. Fucking vile.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: mickO))) on February 25, 2025, 01:35:08 PM
It's exactly what you would expect from a young Mike Patton. Couldn't see him doing it these days.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: The Great Cull on February 25, 2025, 01:48:46 PM
Patton looks like he catches lots of pastries that way nowadays  :laugh:
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Sworntothecans on February 25, 2025, 02:10:41 PM
Quote from: mickO))) on February 25, 2025, 01:35:08 PMIt's exactly what you would expect from a young Mike Patton. Couldn't see him doing it these days.

There's the infamous Chile show from the late 90s where he encouraged it.

Recall watching that video super hungover which was not a good idea 🤢
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on February 27, 2025, 04:34:36 AM
What's the story with the proliferation of female side parted long hair and milk bottle science teacher glasses in death metal over the last ten years? How has this become the norm? Don't give me the old "it's the music that matters" bullshit, because I'm not buying it. Death metal is predominantly about having an ugly logo and cool band photos. The music might come in third place after that. No wait, a cool album cover still comes before the music. Get those parts in place first and then- maybe- you can argue that your music does does the talking. And even then you're on thin ice.

Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Mithrandir on February 27, 2025, 06:20:59 AM
Amen! And don't get me started on bands that wear shorts on stage/in band photos!

Metal bands stopped being able to be assholes so now everyone thinks they're welcome.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on February 27, 2025, 06:44:04 AM
 :laugh:
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: open face surgery on February 27, 2025, 11:41:42 AM
Add to the fact that none of these bands are adding anything new to the genre apart from looking like cunts.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Mithrandir on March 06, 2025, 07:26:49 PM
Unseen Chaos. Ordered a bunch of shirts from them from bands you can't get officially. They've a big following so was expecting something half decent but all the shirt came fucked, weird blown out designs compared to what was advertised, weird fitting shirts, half my order missing, then when it finally arrived arrived it was printed on different shirts again with a different odd fitting. Never again. I know I deserve it for dealing with bootleggers so maybe just take this as a warning.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Thorn on March 06, 2025, 07:30:29 PM
Total chaos more like, that's shocking even for bootleggers
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Mithrandir on March 06, 2025, 07:53:46 PM
They run a big operation and have 3rd party printers who ship their stuff in every continent so might have better luck in Europe but it's definitely a gamble. Shame as they have such cool designs.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: TheFlyingGiraffe on March 06, 2025, 08:20:09 PM
I've got 3 or 4 Unseen Chaos shirts and I've not had a problem with them at all. Think you got a bad batch man
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on March 06, 2025, 10:12:11 PM
I got a deadly Motorhead tshirt recently from Darkpicks or something like that. After one wash the print has almost completely vanished  >:(
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Billy Yellin on March 06, 2025, 10:20:33 PM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on March 06, 2025, 10:12:11 PMI got a deadly Motorhead tshirt recently from Darkpicks or something like that. After one wash the print has almost completely vanished  >:(

If only it would Stay Clean  :'(
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on March 07, 2025, 12:19:42 AM
 :laugh: nice
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: mickO))) on March 07, 2025, 11:36:06 AM
Not exclusively a metal thing but metal distros is where I see this the most. Online stores that won't remove sold out stock. Nothing more annoying than having to scroll through 20 or 30 pages of records with half of them not even being available. The Spindizzy site is a perfect example. I am sure it's some sort of shitty sales tactic to attract people to the site hoping that when they see what they wanted was sold out they will keep browsing and buy something else.

Add to that stores that have a few hundred items in stock but the maximum amount of items you can see per page is 20 meaning it takes forever to get through it all.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: open face surgery on March 07, 2025, 01:06:23 PM
Spindizzy is the only time I think I've encountered it. Pain in the hole alright.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Black Shepherd Carnage on March 07, 2025, 01:18:21 PM
Quote from: mickO))) on March 07, 2025, 11:36:06 AMNot exclusively a metal thing but metal distros is where I see this the most. Online stores that won't remove sold out stock. Nothing more annoying than having to scroll through 20 or 30 pages of records with half of them not even being available. The Spindizzy site is a perfect example. I am sure it's some sort of shitty sales tactic to attract people to the site hoping that when they see what they wanted was sold out they will keep browsing and buy something else.

Add to that stores that have a few hundred items in stock but the maximum amount of items you can see per page is 20 meaning it takes forever to get through it all.

Yes and yes, two major headwrecks both of which seem totally unnecessary.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Sworntothecans on March 07, 2025, 01:44:30 PM
Quote from: mickO))) on March 07, 2025, 11:36:06 AMNot exclusively a metal thing but metal distros is where I see this the most. Online stores that won't remove sold out stock. Nothing more annoying than having to scroll through 20 or 30 pages of records with half of them not even being available. The Spindizzy site is a perfect example. I am sure it's some sort of shitty sales tactic to attract people to the site hoping that when they see what they wanted was sold out they will keep browsing and buy something else.

Add to that stores that have a few hundred items in stock but the maximum amount of items you can see per page is 20 meaning it takes forever to get through it all.


I think the stock thing is a Shopify issue
Quote from: mickO))) on March 07, 2025, 11:36:06 AMNot exclusively a metal thing but metal distros is where I see this the most. Online stores that won't remove sold out stock. Nothing more annoying than having to scroll through 20 or 30 pages of records with half of them not even being available. The Spindizzy site is a perfect example. I am sure it's some sort of shitty sales tactic to attract people to the site hoping that when they see what they wanted was sold out they will keep browsing and buy something else.

Add to that stores that have a few hundred items in stock but the maximum amount of items you can see per page is 20 meaning it takes forever to get through it all.


Ear
Quote from: mickO))) on March 07, 2025, 11:36:06 AMNot exclusively a metal thing but metal distros is where I see this the most. Online stores that won't remove sold out stock. Nothing more annoying than having to scroll through 20 or 30 pages of records with half of them not even being available. The Spindizzy site is a perfect example. I am sure it's some sort of shitty sales tactic to attract people to the site hoping that when they see what they wanted was sold out they will keep browsing and buy something else.

Add to that stores that have a few hundred items in stock but the maximum amount of items you can see per page is 20 meaning it takes forever to get through it all.


I think it's the platform they're using for the site that causes that where stock on hand against sales doesn't sync until the end of day.

It's a pain in the balls at times.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Eoin McLove on March 07, 2025, 08:15:44 PM
It's a complete fucking brain melt.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Thorn on March 07, 2025, 08:27:46 PM
The best format is the ones where you can click on the letter of the alphabet, which zones you in instantly. Having to click forward every three pages to get to  bands that begin with N is well...brain melting indeed
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: mickO))) on March 10, 2025, 11:04:49 AM
I have come across the issue on a load of sites to varying degrees like Osmose for example you won't see sold out products while browsing through the site but if you search for XX LP on Google a result will come up for Osmose having it then when you click into the link it is out of stock.

Crypt of the Wizard is another one similar to Spin Dizzy that half of his listings are sold out.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Mithrandir on March 15, 2025, 07:19:42 AM
A local record shop nearly me got the Celtic Frost - Danse Macabre LP Boxset and split it up and is selling every item individually which annoyed me more than it should.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Sworntothecans on March 18, 2025, 05:54:49 PM
Quote from: Mithrandir on March 15, 2025, 07:19:42 AMA local record shop nearly me got the Celtic Frost - Danse Macabre LP Boxset and split it up and is selling every item individually which annoyed me more than it should.


The fucking cheek.That boxset is class.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Ducky on March 20, 2025, 11:17:36 PM
When bands don't give songs individual names eg. most of Mgla's discography, the new Opeth.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Abandon All Hope on March 21, 2025, 12:13:24 AM
Quote from: Ducky on March 20, 2025, 11:17:36 PMWhen bands don't give songs individual names eg. most of Mgla's discography, the new Opeth.

I would Love If All Bands Would Just Do Album Title And Tracks 1 , 2 , 3 Etc . It Would Make Life Easier.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Thorn on March 21, 2025, 01:54:44 AM
I've always preferred tracks that actually use the title in the lyrics somewhere even if it's not the chorus. As I get older it's becoming even more of an issue remembering which song is which. Maybe you're right, 1,2,3...is the way to go, hell I'm there already for the most part, particularly with Black Metal albums.
Title: Re: Metal Pet Peeves
Post by: Maggot Colony on March 21, 2025, 10:21:56 AM
I think it's fine provided bands use Roman numerals as they're metal as fuck.