Random metal related thoughts

[Carnage]

What's on disc 2?

[Mithrandir]

On that note, I've always thought "Dashing through the snow on a one horse open sleigh" could pass for lyrics from an Immortal song

  

[astfgyl]

What's on disc 2?

Live stuff. Now to be fair the live stuff sounds unbelievably good but fuck that without the bonus tracks

[Naraka]

I was listening to a lot of Pink Floyd over the past few weeks and it struck me just how big their influence is on a lot of metal bands. Cult of Luna were the first band that came to mind.

[astfgyl]

That last one has me thinking about things in a sort of related way.

Why is it that certain softer bands translate so well to the metal heads?

Thinking the likes of The Cure or Pink Floyd or Peter Gabriel I know they're all old men but I'm sure there's more recent ones like that too but ye might get the gist of what I mean?

Is there a structural thing that they go beyond the pop standard or is it a matter of key or timbre or dissonant tendencies in the music? Is it anything at all maybe not tbf.

Depeche Mode is another one and I'm thinking of the Limmy A-HA sketch as well I doubt there'd be the sketch if there wasn't something common about that

Anyway...

Edit: obviously it isn't universal because I was talking to a lad in Dolans a while back and I said to him that the couple of tunes off Paradise Lost One Second weren't the worst and the way he said it was "like fuckin Depeche Mode" the words themselves were as if they were being spat on my feet through gritted teeth it was very impressive. Couldn't argue with passion for metal like that.

I bet even that lad has some band he likes that fits what I'm thinking of though

[Carnage]

It might be that even though they fit well into the mainstream end of things, they're all based just outside of it - or at least were before they became more established and establishment. Outsiders who came inside, as it were, but still with a hint of rebellion to them.

[Eoin McLove]

More that the mainstream maybe came to then rather than the other way around? The have accessibility without compromising the darkness, atmosphere or creativity whatever it might be.

[jobrok1]

I was talking to a lad in Dolans a while back and I said to him that the couple of tunes off Paradise Lost One Second weren't the worst and the way he said it was "like fuckin Depeche Mode"...

I still really like One Second. Think it's very underrated.

Host was their Depeche Mode record. Listened to it a few times, then struggled to even get through a few songs so just stopped trying to force it altogether. Horrible record!

[Eoin McLove]

I had the Host (band) album on in the car today. I love it.

[The Butcher]

Thinking of the slow decline of the big metal bands and the festival announcements - I'm thinking 2030 onward with the increasing digital age we live in - does it lead to a more fragmented music scene across the board - does the underground flourish like it has the past 10 years or so or do we get overwhelmed with numerous small independent artists and just stick to what we grew up listening to with a few listens to random new bands every now and again?

I could see the very depressing scenario where virtual reality becomes a thing and people get tickets to a virtual gig with holograms of Black Sabbath or Metallica lifted from previous audio/video recordings and enhanced with AI...I could also see this being done soon enough in venues where certain seats are allocated to 360 degree cameras and for a slightly cheaper ticket, you can experience the gig/event/match from the comfort of your home. For the generations growing up just gaming in their bedrooms, could be enticing.

I'm also waiting to see music from the upcoming generations become more reflective of societal trends/political global movements and most likely, be absolutely shite  Or maybe music just gets devalued into oblivion, who knows?!

[Don Gately]

I think I could just listen to Black Sabbath for the rest of my days and be very happy. Still finding things in those first few albums that make the jaw drop.

[astfgyl]

I think I could just listen to Black Sabbath for the rest of my days and be very happy. Still finding things in those first few albums that make the jaw drop.

I feel like that about Nine Inch Nails.

Still hope it doesn't come to that though, in case my taste changes when I'm 60

[Anvil]

Curse the Gods by Destruction has possibly the best intro to a song.  The slow build up, then four beats on the cymbal into that fucking riff 

[astfgyl]

That Nu Metal thing with the head down and the legs kicking out from below the knee. Really highlights the insincerity of it all.

Moves for genres in general. How fucking bum.

I can understand a foot on the monitor or a bit of headbanging. Some of it is indeed involuntary but more of it is as contrived as fuck. Moves for genres. Good Lord.

[Mithrandir]

Thinking about tapping the Vein by Sodom, what a fucking out the gate album to come out with on your 5th album after 10 years in the game, it's essentially a death metal album. Recruiting a 20 year old college student on  guitar who had no live experience is mental and I'm not really sure how it came about considering how big Sodom would have been at the time (I should watch lord of depravity) But also this is probably what brought the life into that album. . They fumbled the ball with the follow up, one of the worst guitar tones ever, but tapping the vein is up there with the best they've done, seriously needs a reissue.