Random metal related thoughts

[Carnage]

Other than My World I don't think there's any truly bad songs on the UYI albums

My name is Get In The Ring and I'm an alcoholic.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Get in the Ring is essential to the overall schtick of the album(s), you couldn't be getting rid of that.

[Carnage]

God no, that's the first one I'd ditch. Awful racket.

[Eoin McLove]

Ah no, it's bolshy and ridiculous but it works.

[Emphyrio]

Having never listened to Lulu, I still reckon the worst of it couldn't be as bad as My World.

[Eoin McLove]

Lulu, the two songs I've partly listened to are in a league of their own.

[Emphyrio]

I've never experienced morbid curiosity like this.... May report back.

[Pentagrimes]

80s Japanese Hair Metal might be the best thing I've only discovered in my late 40s. They all look like Tigertailz and Ciinderella but sound considerably more outrageous .It's wonderfully ridiculous. Behold:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siocdhs8bzE

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Threw it on in the background on the headphones. A lot of entertaining shite      but I had to go have a dig when I heard this Realm-esque track:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDFwn7IRXhg

Only to then be surprised to discover that the one demo they had is actually solid doom!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ok9dSSNBWU

[Pentagrimes]

I was about to mention them,  searching for more by them is what lead me to that video. They're the stand out by far. Great band, closer to doom than the high energy glam/soft rock of the rest of it. That band Toya , if you close your eyes, aren't far off ultra melodic 90s Fat Wreck poppunk either, it's like listening to Poison covering Nofx

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Great minds think arike!

[Mooncat]

Out Ta Get Me, Anything Goes, You're Crazy are all b-side fillers. Appetite is great, but has enough filler to drag it down to 8/10.

And while the UYI albums are mostly meh, You Could Be Mine is easily my favourite G'n'R song, so II can always have a spot on my shelf. 

What was the buzz with these lads back in the day anyways? Didn't they break big around the same time as thrash? Fuck all "dangerous" sounding about Paradise City when the likes of Angel of Death and Damage Inc. landed in close proximity. Or am I just being deliberately dense for expecting all these songs long (about 13 years) after the fact? I do remember seeing G'n'R on the telly in the 80s as a kid, but not Metallica (and defo not Slayer), so were the acceptable "dangerous" face of mainstream rock?

They were being contrasted with hair metal at the time, not thrash (which was still mainly underground bar Metallica having a video for One). Hair metal had entered its overly poppy, power ballad phase whereas Guns were seen as a dirtier, realer, more Rolling Stones kind of spin on it.


As for the UYI albums, the only song I truly love is You Could Be Mine, and I respect that November Rain is a huge hit. And guess what? Both were written during the Appetite sessions and deliberately left off (they opted for Welcome to the Jungle and Sweet Child O' Mine instead of those two). So there might be something in the claim that the Appetite sessions were the only good thing they did as I don't think they wrote a truly great song after that. Not sure I'd call it a fluke, prob more like they were just too messed up Appetite, plus the pressure of suddenly enormous stardom to come up with anything great.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Not like they're the runaway, uncontested two best tracks on UYI though. Civil War is arguably at least as good a song as November Rain, Locomotive arguably at least as good a song as You Could Be Mine, etc.

[Maggot Colony]

Just reading that the first 4 Burzum albums and Aske were recorded between January 1992 and March 1993. It's astonishing to think that these hugely influential releases were created in such a short time frame, especially when you consider the leap in style from the self-titled to Filosofem.

Makes you wonder what Varg would have achieved next if he didn't get himself locked up. He might still have gone down the ambient route but it could have been much better if he had access to more than a prison keyboard.

[Eoin McLove]

I think that Belus and Fallen fit really nicely in with the progression of the pre- prison stuff. Different, certainly, and nowhere near as dark, but full of inventiveness and brilliant song writing. Even the new demo stuff sounds like it would be a winner if recorded properly.