I love metal, but hate 99% of metalheads in Ireland. Apart from a pretty tight circle of friends in the scene, I would usually socialise with childhood mates as I just can't be fucking arsed putting up with these saps. I have also recently taken to going to most of the bigger touring gigs abroad as between pint prices, taxi prices and these fucking arseholes, I'm just not enjoying myself.
It appears to me that your average metal fan is nothing short of a braindead luddite and I see this at most every gig in Ireland. Not only by the carry-on of them, but also the absolute backwards shite that they come out with.
Off the top of my head, some examples:
- "Fuck off you queer. Little faggot". Directed at my gay friend.
- "That fuckin' n*gger is the jacks". Directed at the guy cleaning your grease filled piss.
- The absolute head the ball that brought the dead bird to Mayhem last year.
- Telling a man in a suit that he shouldn't be at a Slayer gig and wasn't welcome.
- Some middle aged, fat baldy ape grabbed my girlfriend's tits at the YOB gig in Whelans a few years back. When confronted by my bawling girlfriend and furious self, his reply? "It was only a joke for fuck sake, calm down", to which his friends seemed to agree and looked bewildered that I was ready to burst the cunt.
- A chap trying to choke people at the Deafheaven gig in Whelans
So what do you think? Am I cranky old bastard or do you lot have any similar experiences to share?
All of that is embarrassing bullshit apart from strangling Deafheaven fans, which seems reasonable to me :P
I seldom go to gigs these days but when I do it's usually small underground ones where I know half the heads at the gig anyway. They tend to be aggressive-wanker free affairs. The experiences you describe above make me think of mullers up from the bog for a big day out who think that being an ape is TERTERLLLY MERTERRRRLLLLL!
Yeah, I'd say it's the larger gigs that bring out the gobshites. Have never noticed anything like that in the venues round Cork. Could be wrong, mind - there's always one or two eejits.
What put me off going to gigs in Dublin for the best part of two decades was the constant attempts at 'out-metaling' each other (oldest/most obscure record/T-shirt etc.) and inability to exist outside the house without being pissed as farts, messily so. When I was in Galway there was none of that that I saw, and the smaller gigs were always enjoyable, whether I was into the bands or styles on the night or not.
I've moved away from Galway too, so I rarely bother with gigs at all anymore these days, but I didn't see much of that at the last few I've been to. What I find more annoying is cunts with oversized bags on their backs at packed gigs, knocking people and/or drinks about and just getting in the way.
Quote from: Carnage on January 30, 2020, 07:46:11 PM
What I find more annoying is cunts with oversized bags on their backs at packed gigs, knocking people and/or drinks about and just getting in the way.
Yep, the whole walking about with a massive fucking shoulderbag or the like in a bar area is just 'Is your brain even working?'. At least have the decency to take it off your shoulders, and carry it at kneeheight if you're lugging stuff around. Or, if there is one, fuck it into the cloakroom.
I've gone to a good few gigs abroad over the last few years and have enjoyed them far more than Dublin gigs. You don't get covered in some other spa's beer as they try to carry three or more pints through the pit, they leave space around each other and there are no topless sweaty fat cunts rubbing their bio-scum all over you.
Quote from: Carnage on January 30, 2020, 07:46:11 PM
What put me off going to gigs in Dublin for the best part of two decades was the constant attempts at 'out-metaling' each other (oldest/most obscure record/T-shirt etc.)
Nothing wrong with wearing obscure band t-shirts, unless you don't actually listen to the band. I never realised there was a competition going on with people trying to out-metal each other. How did that manifest itself?
You could see it with regulars, coming in with more and more 'kvlt' stuff, and hear it in conversation, trying to outdo each other with whichbgem they bought or played recently, 'I had A years ago, moved on from it to B', just general oneupmanship. Pathetic, really. It's the main reason I gravitated more to punk gigs, in general nobody gave a shit.
Most metalheads seem to be spas for sure. I certainly don't (nor ever did) identify as one - I consider myself to be a big fan of music, a lot of which happens to be metal. Also, I'm hitting my late-30s, the whole neo-tribalism of the Metal Bros. was already pretty fucking tiring by my early-20s.
When you have a lad telling you you're a "fake metaller" because you happen to think Machine Head are shite, and another one telling you effectively the same because you think Darkthrone are overrated and citing Death as your favourite band makes you a "commercial fanboy", all you can do is shrug your shoulders and get back to your Chic and Kool and the Gang records.
Edit - I do think it's more indicative of people in general being plonkers. Metal has a sizeable following, ergo you'll find a sizeable number of dipshits.
I wouldn't usually go to gigs at all. I'll only go if I'm a big fan of the band playing.
My brother bought me tickets for a gig for Xmas though so I went to that but I was driving so I was sober. Jesus the amount of shit talk I overheard at it was unreal.
I seen on Facebook that metalheads Ireland group are putting on some kind of gig in some dump.
Cant even imagine the amount of spas that will be at that.
None of my friends are into metal which I'm actually grateful for tbh.
Quote from: Carnage on January 30, 2020, 10:50:17 PM
You could see it with regulars, coming in with more and more 'kvlt' stuff, and hear it in conversation, trying to outdo each other with whichbgem they bought or played recently, 'I had A years ago, moved on from it to B', just general oneupmanship. Pathetic, really. It's the main reason I gravitated more to punk gigs, in general nobody gave a shit.
Wow,my experience of punk was clearly very different to yours so.
Not sure if it's just metalheads, but no matter what type of gig I go to there's always a fair few pricks acting the bollocks. Seems like there's a percentage that just go to them for some sort of night out to get completely shitfaced and have no interest in the bands
So should we just go ahead and change the name of the site to Metal Wankfare then :abbath:
I've no doubt that metal does attract a number of socially inept folk but there's just as many people in Ireland who'd have zero interest in metal and are also complete spastics that you'd want nothing to do with. Point being that there's terrible wankers in all walks of life but you take far more notice of the ones who dabble in your interests.
Quote from: Born of Fire on January 31, 2020, 09:34:51 AM
there's just as many people in Ireland who'd have zero interest in metal and are also complete spastics that you'd want nothing to do with. Point being that there's terrible wankers in all walks of life but you take far more notice of the ones who dabble in your interests.
Yeah asshats are everywhere. The more popular the gig, the more likely they will be there, hats and all. I get that sense on a normal night out in Dublin, let alone a gig.
Quote from: Ducky on January 31, 2020, 01:55:50 AM
Most metalheads seem to be spas for sure. I certainly don't (nor ever did) identify as one - I consider myself to be a big fan of music, a lot of which happens to be metal. Also, I'm hitting my late-30s, the whole neo-tribalism of the Metal Bros. was already pretty fucking tiring by my early-20s.
When you have a lad telling you you're a "fake metaller" because you happen to think Machine Head are shite, and another one telling you effectively the same because you think Darkthrone are overrated and citing Death as your favourite band makes you a "commercial fanboy", all you can do is shrug your shoulders and get back to your Chic and Kool and the Gang records.
Edit - I do think it's more indicative of people in general being plonkers. Metal has a sizeable following, ergo you'll find a sizeable number of dipshits.
Pretty much what I was going to say. I listen to a lot of music, much of which is on the heavier end.
It's not just metalheads. Irish gig goers in general are wankers.
In a weird dichotomy; I'm not a true/real metaller to "kvlt metalheads" because I don't wear the gear or know enough in conversations regarding the minutiae of the genre. However to everyone I work with and all my wife's friends - I am the most metal motherfucker they've ever met. :abbath:
Seems equally spastic to me to worry about other people at gigs wearing t-shirts by bands you don't know and discussing bands you don't know, and thinking it's somehow an act of oppression against you :laugh:
Is everyone only allowed to listen to, and discuss, Metallica in case they hurt someone's feelings? If you're at a metal gig you're going to have other people there who are obsessive about it and meet up with other people who have the same passion for it. That's all it is- nerdy talk, not bullying.
I didn't and don't think that at all, strange that you might think I did. I just thought it was sad.
It's what you said. You think that people are trying to out-metal you with their t-shirts and discussion of old and obscure bands. In my experience, when I go to gigs, I meet up with other metal heads who I probably haven't seen in a while, we have a rake of pints (oppressive elitist pints by the looks of this thread) and catch up by discussing metal bands old and new. If that is somehow offensive to someone else for some obscure reason, well, I dunno... tough shit. It's a metal gig!
It's not what I said, what I said was that they were trying to out-metal each other. I didn't have anything to do with it, I just did my own thing. More often than not I might have been into the bands they were on about, but didn't feel the need to preen like a peacock about it. I didn't feel 'oppressed' or 'bullied' in the slightest.
Do pay attention, 007.
Bigger gigs have spas alright but all the gigs I go to are 99% bang on sound people. What gigs do ye be going to.
It hasn't changed much then. I just don't seem to see it anymore. Most gigs I'm at nowadays are fine
19 years ago I was at Dismember and Desecration in Murray's I think it was on O'Connell Street. Definitely non metal clobber as I was at some bars that required neat dress later that night
So it was a charity shop outfit of shirt and a non biker leather jacket.
Halfway through the set I hear this girl turn to her fella and ask him " Who's your man?" referring to me.
The reply. "Some rich cunt"
I've always had a laugh at that one.
Quote from: Carnage on January 31, 2020, 11:31:06 AM
It's not what I said, what I said was that they were trying to out-metal each other. I didn't have anything to do with it, I just did my own thing. More often than not I might have been into the bands they were on about, but didn't feel the need to preen like a peacock about it. I didn't feel 'oppressed' or 'bullied' in the slightest.
Do pay attention, 007.
So you got upset that they were having their own conversation about underground bands? I'm still confused as to how this makes them wankers. Surely you judging them as preening peacocks is more judgmental. Weird.
Judge not lest ye be judged yourself. Out of the Bibble, that'n. And possibly Metallica.
People are gonna do what they do. Fair enough, some of it is eejitish, but to get fucked off about it? Nah.
Quote from: Eoin McLove on January 31, 2020, 11:50:47 AM
Quote from: Carnage on January 31, 2020, 11:31:06 AM
It's not what I said, what I said was that they were trying to out-metal each other. I didn't have anything to do with it, I just did my own thing. More often than not I might have been into the bands they were on about, but didn't feel the need to preen like a peacock about it. I didn't feel 'oppressed' or 'bullied' in the slightest.
Do pay attention, 007.
So you got upset that they were having their own conversation about underground bands? I'm still confused as to how this makes them wankers. Surely you judging them as preening peacocks is more judgmental. Weird.
I'm living in Kerry, the only time I generally get to talk about obscure music (in real life) is at gigs!
It's not just metal heads, people are fucking retarded.
Regarding the punk scene, punks are the biggest elitists out there, "you don't have this limited edition picture disc? You're not a real punk"
This sort of attitude was prevalent on the old forum too and I wonder is it a sense of embarrassment at being into music that your peers don't like, music deemed inappropriate to listen to as an adult so you have to over- compensate by reminding everyone that you're better than that sad rabble who never gave up on the lifestyle accoutrements, or if it's a feeling of inadequacy. The reality is that most people don't care. Listen to what you want, wear what you want. A bit of slagging is inevitable, certainly with a few naughty pints down the hatch, but try to keep some perspective.
I propose that this issue be split into 2 groups.
1. The first specimen we might term 'mongos' from up and down the country who are about as cultured and educated as soiled underwear. Experience tells us that these people are quite simply mad Paddy Micks who exist in all strains of Irish culture, be it GAA, nightclubs, the Gardaí..they're everywhere and it's not changing. These specimens tend to appear at more mainstream metal gigs such as the Metallicas and Machine Heads of this world but one shouldn't be surprised to encounter them at more underground events either. If they didn't exist you'd probably miss them as they add a touch of variety to life and give the general populace something to complain about and laugh about. The levels of lunacy about the country is of rare vintage stock akin to the levels of fine vintage wine found in France. In fact, Ireland may be seen as a world leader in it's fostering of such.
The second part of the demographic is a very different specimen from the above, though some specimens may exhibit traits that, as mentioned before, overlap at the fringes (A venn diagram would be useful here but unfortunately I am away from my desk).
2. A 'lifer' who has dedicated themselves to metal in every way possible. They are immediately recognisable as metal heads, their attire generally being of the black variety and on sunny days they might push the boat out with a touch of charming grey. Interests include metal, black metal, death metal, some 'allowed' non metal acts such as Nick Cave when they're feeling really sexy about themselves, the occult, drinking/alcoholism, psychadelics, some foster interests in areas such as martial arts, motorbikes, dungeons and dragons, philosophy, the list can go on. Often intelligent though there is wide variance in this as in all walks of life. Their passion for their music may manifest itself in a certain 'us vs them' approach to what may be included in the group and what may not, leading them to be termed kvlt or elititst by people outside the group who possibly wish they were in the group, but don't have the tape collection to back it up. This stereotyping within the wider metal listening populace however may come from a certain envy or inferiority complex that outsiders have created or imagined that doesn't really exist at all. If one strips away the aesthetics of this group, one would find similarities with other obsessive/fanatical groups, mostly comprised of men(see train spotters, football fanatics, cottagers) who gather together under a banner of mutual interest.
Other variants do exist, but as a means to further the conversation, I propose that we distinguish between these 2 widely differing phemonena. I would also add that this is simply a launch pad to further discussion and investigation and that the 'types' I propse are by no means definitive.
Quote from: Eoin McLove on January 31, 2020, 11:50:47 AM
Quote from: Carnage on January 31, 2020, 11:31:06 AM
It's not what I said, what I said was that they were trying to out-metal each other. I didn't have anything to do with it, I just did my own thing. More often than not I might have been into the bands they were on about, but didn't feel the need to preen like a peacock about it. I didn't feel 'oppressed' or 'bullied' in the slightest.
Do pay attention, 007.
So you got upset that they were having their own conversation about underground bands? I'm still confused as to how this makes them wankers. Surely you judging them as preening peacocks is more judgmental. Weird.
I'm not sure how many times I have to restate the same thing before you'll get what I'm saying, and I'm not sure there's any point to doing it, as you seem to insist on wilfully missing the point I made.
But no, it didn't upset me and no, that's not what was happening. I don't really care TBH, that was 20-25 years ago and I don't know those people anymore.
Quote from: leoos on January 31, 2020, 11:33:26 AM
It hasn't changed much then. I just don't seem to see it anymore. Most gigs I'm at nowadays are fine
19 years ago I was at Dismember and Desecration in Murray's I think it was on O'Connell Street. Definitely non metal clobber as I was at some bars that required neat dress later that night
So it was a charity shop outfit of shirt and a non biker leather jacket.
Halfway through the set I hear this girl turn to her fella and ask him " Who's your man?" referring to me.
The reply. "Some rich cunt"
I've always had a laugh at that one.
Brilliant.
Quote from: Pedrito on January 31, 2020, 12:05:27 PM
I propose that this issue be split into 2 groups.
1. The first specimen we might term 'mongos' from up and down the country who are about as cultured and educated as soiled underwear. Experience tells us that these people are quite simply mad Paddy Micks who exist in all strains of Irish culture, be it GAA, nightclubs, the Gardaí..they're everywhere and it's not changing. These specimens tend to appear at more mainstream metal gigs such as the Metallicas and Machine Heads of this world but one shouldn't be surprised to encounter them at more underground events either. If they didn't exist you'd probably miss them as they add a touch of variety to life and give the general populace something to complain about and laugh about. The levels of lunacy about the country is of rare vintage stock akin to the levels of fine vintage wine found in France. In fact, Ireland may be seen as a world leader in it's fostering of such.
The second part of the demographic is a very different specimen from the above, though some specimens may exhibit traits that, as mentioned before, overlap at the fringes (A venn diagram would be useful here but unfortunately I am away from my desk).
2. A 'lifer' who has dedicated themselves to metal in every way possible. They are immediately recognisable as metal heads, their attire generally being of the black variety and on sunny days they might push the boat out with a touch of charming grey. Interests include metal, black metal, death metal, some 'allowed' non metal acts such as Nick Cave when they're feeling really sexy about themselves, the occult, drinking/alcoholism, psychadelics, some foster interests in areas such as martial arts, motorbikes, dungeons and dragons, philosophy, the list can go on. Often intelligent though there is wide variance in this as in all walks of life. Their passion for their music may manifest itself in a certain 'us vs them' approach to what may be included in the group and what may not, leading them to be termed kvlt or elititst by people outside the group who possibly wish they were in the group, but don't have the tape collection to back it up. This stereotyping within the wider metal listening populace however may come from a certain envy or inferiority complex that outsiders have created or imagined that doesn't really exist at all. If one strips away the aesthetics of this group, one would find similarities with other obsessive/fanatical groups, mostly comprised of men(see train spotters, football fanatics, cottagers) who gather together under a banner of mutual interest.
Other variants do exist, but as a means to further the conversation, I propose that we distinguish between these 2 widely differing phemonena. I would also add that this is simply a launch pad to further discussion and investigation and that the 'types' I propse are by no means definitive.
:laugh: My favourite post this week.
Regarding the punk scene, punks are the biggest elitists out there, "you don't have this limited edition picture disc? You're not a real punk"
I don't know any punks who talk like that, are you sure you are not mixing them up with cunts? Most punks I know and grew up with, bought records when they could, the same as the people I hung around with who were into heavy metal. That is a bit of push that auld statement man
Quote from: Doctor Crippen on January 31, 2020, 01:19:58 PM
Regarding the punk scene, punks are the biggest elitists out there, "you don't have this limited edition picture disc? You're not a real punk"
I don't know any punks who talk like that, are you sure you are not mixing them up with cunts? Most punks I know and grew up with, bought records when they could, the same as the people I hung around with who were into heavy metal. That is a bit of push that auld statement man
I never had anything like that either. Quite the opposite, in fact - plenty of tapes flying about for those that didn't have this or that album/single/whatever - with the exception of local stuff, obviously, as everyone supported everone else's bands and bought/traded stuff as opposed to copying it. Also a lot more accepting of new people to the 'scene', in my experience.
Quote from: Carnage on January 31, 2020, 12:08:28 PM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on January 31, 2020, 11:50:47 AM
Quote from: Carnage on January 31, 2020, 11:31:06 AM
It's not what I said, what I said was that they were trying to out-metal each other. I didn't have anything to do with it, I just did my own thing. More often than not I might have been into the bands they were on about, but didn't feel the need to preen like a peacock about it. I didn't feel 'oppressed' or 'bullied' in the slightest.
Do pay attention, 007.
So you got upset that they were having their own conversation about underground bands? I'm still confused as to how this makes them wankers. Surely you judging them as preening peacocks is more judgmental. Weird.
I'm not sure how many times I have to restate the same thing before you'll get what I'm saying, and I'm not sure there's any point to doing it, as you seem to insist on wilfully missing the point I made.
But no, it didn't upset me and no, that's not what was happening. I don't really care TBH, that was 20-25 years ago and I don't know those people anymore.
No, I still don't get it.
This all just reads to me like good old Irish begrudgery and conservatism. Maybe in other countries metal heads experience this identity crisis too but it comes up here semi- regularly. The original post is fair enough, we have all seen the stereotypical fat brodude type moshing with his t-shirt off and spilling people's pints. A big day out from farming and then back to molesting pigs or whatever goes on down the country. But actually being annoyed that other people who like the same thing as you engage in it a degree or two more (t-shirts, leathers, long hair etc) is just plain weird to me. I can't figure out of it is self loathing or resentment.
When it comes to self loathing we're light years ahead of the pack :abbath:
I don't buy into it and the atmosphere at the gigs I go to tends to be civil and good natured. I rarely go to big gigs anymore but I'll occasionally be tempted. I tend to find huge crowds and overpriced beer and merch a turn off.
Maybe I meet the wrong people but I can't recall ever meeting a metalhead older than 21 who openly mocked another's band choices, unless it was part of group banter where everyone was having a laugh. I used to see it a lot as a teenage but you can't really apply rules of good-nature and decorum to a group of people who still finding and exploring their identities during a time of massive change in their lives. I do grumble to myself the odd (well, a lot) about people at gigs but this is usually more a reflection of my own mood and irritability; I don't ever really see people who are genuinely out to be a dick to anyone else. As a newcomer, the Dublin metal scene can seem quite small and clique-y, but when I've actually gone out of my way to speak to somewhere, everyone has been pretty sound.
Aaaaaaahhhhhhhh.......
Is there anything so gormlessly pathetic as a 30+ year old rocker/metaler at a wedding/christening/confirmation/etc in their 'metal wear'.....
Or indeed, clinging on to that 2 strands of knitting wool for a 'ponytail'....... Dear gawd, hahahaha... :laugh:
Most people are sound....we don't remember the decent people we meet fleetingly...just the cunts..
Quote from: Kurt Cocaine on January 31, 2020, 02:38:24 PM
Aaaaaaahhhhhhhh.......
Is there anything so gormlessly pathetic as a 30+ year old rocker/metaler at a wedding/christening/confirmation/etc in their 'metal wear'.....
Or indeed, clinging on to that 2 strands of knitting wool for a 'ponytail'....... Dear gawd, hahahaha... :laugh:
:laugh:
Quote from: Eoin McLove on January 31, 2020, 01:57:22 PM
I don't buy into it and the atmosphere at the gigs I go to tends to be civil and good natured. I rarely go to big gigs anymore but I'll occasionally be tempted. I tend to find huge crowds and overpriced beer and merch a turn off.
Neither do I. There's gobshites everywhere and sound people. I'm poking fun at it tbh. It's like when foreign people come to Ireland and say we're.so nice or we're fucking awful. I always say there's good and bad and everything in between. Also if you feel outside of a clique then you're either happy enough outside of it or make some efforts to become part of it if it means that much to you. I used to think that Bruxelles was a big Nemtheanga wank off but I was young and while to a degree it was, it was also a community of people that shared a lot of experiences together and you didn't just waltz in and become one of the gang immediately. That's the same in all walks of life. Back to the original post I'd say what the poster has experienced is a reflection of wider Irish culture which tends to go outside the boundaries of civilised behaviour when the reins are off. It's nothing new and not likely to change. Other countries you go to, people tend to follow the rules more, policing is heavier handed, but who the hell.wants that?
Separate issue, but the whole 'muckers from down the country' thing is partìcularly fun, I might add. The misplaced Dublin-based superiority complex is hilarious to those from the rest of the country.
Mucker, Paddy Micks include Dubs when you start to focus out. Bunch of muck savages the half of them who just happen to live in closer confinement :laugh:
Definitely people in the tr00 crew of the Dublin scene who (at least used to) judge other metallers based on what they're into, shirts they were, etc. But I found exactly the same thing in France and Germany, and often these people knew each other! You'd get an in if you happened to like, say, Pantera, but at the same time happened to be in an acceptable band/own an acceptable label, etc. Ain't no denying it; I've been on the observer side and the receiving end. At least I think I've been on the receiving end, but on the other hand there was always a fair few folks I encountered who instantly wanted nothing to do with me once they found out who I was off MI :abbath: :laugh:
Ah, god be with the days, wha'!
Quote from: Carnage on January 31, 2020, 03:45:38 PM
Separate issue, but the whole 'muckers from down the country' thing is partìcularly fun, I might add. The misplaced Dublin-based superiority complex is hilarious to those from the rest of the country.
Agreed. Its usually the country fellas who are the soundest.
Might be unfair to tarnish the savages with the brodude brush exclusively. It's a generalization. We are referring to people who go to one big gig a year and think it's still 95 and they can be a teenager again, and that that is all metal is- pent up rage and an excuse to 'go mad'. For those of us who have stayed into it through our adult life they appear like a bizarre specimen you should be poking at under a microscope.
This thread needs to be moved onto the main forum. It's got legs......
Well, this escalated quickly. In regards to the OP it sounds like drunk dickhead behaviour. Well lads, just be glad we're not Tans, never saw more bored or jaded audiences than London shows.
Anyway..... have a great weekend fellow Metal Wankers...
Majority of lads at gigs are grand.
I did find some of the muckers and pie balls at Behemoth and Wolves though last year,some more annoying as a result of being off their tits.
Last time i saw knuckles being properly scrop along the floor was in Fibbers after the last Slayer show.
Id imagine the Orcs will be out in force for Sunstroke in the summer!
I am a country lad but am very refined. I read books, listen to classical music, rarely clap along to the exhortations of the lead singer at gigs because at 46 I'm really beyond all that.
I would say the Dublin scum knackers at gigs would be my biggest issue.
Haven't found the majority to be wankers at all. Quite the opposite, most I've met have been at least a bit sound. But then again I haven't really been arsed going to the big gigs generally, so would know a lot people at gigs anyway.
It's rare enough I get to a gig these days but from what I've seen recently, there's far less of a scrotey element attending. Def saw much more hassle at gigs in the 90s.
Quote from: Scáthach on January 31, 2020, 08:50:41 PM
Well, this escalated quickly. In regards to the OP it sounds like drunk dickhead behaviour. Well lads, just be glad we're not Tans, never saw more bored or jaded audiences than London shows.
Went to see Rush in Wembley arena years ago and it was the tamest, most depressing experience ever. Everyone seated, all on their best behaviour, the real middle class prog crowd that I had read about in magazines and books over the years..awful. Thank Christ I saw them a few years later in Dublin. The crowd was electric, I was locked, the band in great form. One of the best gigs I ever went to. So yeah, it's rock n roll.at the end of the day, some chick giving blowjobs in Slane or lads wearing backpacks in the moshpit, fuck it you can always move or avert your eyes but at least you'd have a story to tell afterwards. The London thing was like a bag of mouldy chips in comparison.
Had seating tickets at the last slayer gig, some geezer in the seats section was lit drunk and fell on the stairs, and was a bit abusive to the people around him, wouldn't be sitting at a gig again in fairness, totally lacked the buzz of being on the floor and there were a fair few couples were you could notice the bird had no interest in slayer
The common denominator between metallers and mongolism seems to be Slayuuuurrrr!
Quote from: Doctor Crippen on February 01, 2020, 06:40:21 PMthere were a fair few couples were you could notice the bird had no interest in slayer
A friend of mine from work who is completely loved up has recently started taking his new missus to metal gigs, which isn't her preferred choice of music by all accounts. I haven't a clue what either of them get out of this arrangement to be honest.
Quote from: John Kimble on February 01, 2020, 08:39:42 PM
Quote from: Doctor Crippen on February 01, 2020, 06:40:21 PMthere were a fair few couples were you could notice the bird had no interest in slayer
A friend of mine from work who is completely loved up has recently started taking his new missus to metal gigs, which isn't her preferred choice of music by all accounts. I haven't a clue what either of them get out of this arrangement to be honest.
Well you'd assume that he goes to gigs with her or something similar that he doesn't like because maybe they want to go these things with each other and experience what the other person likes and see them enjoying themselves.
Yeah, it's very normal behaviour.
Leaving her at home works for us, win win for both of us 😀
Sorry lads, I'm with the doctor on this one. My missus has zero interest in metal, pretty much most music in general, so I never felt the need to drag her along to a gig knowing she'd probably have a shit time. Like, there's no shortage of activities that you can enjoy as a couple, a gig really isn't at the forefront of these. Fair enough if she's into the music obviously.
Jesus Christ, who gives a flying fuck. What are the lot of you on about! Unreal.
Wow, you're a bit of a spastic aren't you? I don't really give a fuck, to be honest. It's just me making a comment, in relation to another comment, in a thread that consists of other comments. I mean, unreal, who gives a fuck about the new Malokarpatan? Apart from people who are into Malokarpatan? Who gives a fuck about ridiculous and unintentionally hilarious music, really? Why bother posting about, you know, stuff in general? Who gives a fuck about stuff? Apart from people who are into stuff? Ridiculous carry-on altogether.
Yeah, true.
Quote from: John Kimble on February 01, 2020, 10:17:23 PMWho gives a fuck about stuff? Apart from people who are into stuff?
And there we have it, really. That's pretty much everyone, not just your die hard metalheads. Fact is, everyone's a nerd about something, whether it's metal, football, mathematics, nature, books etc... it's just the outliers that will get the attention, deservedly or not. This statement is not meant to give vent that people should rein in, far from it: nerdism is to be celebrated, I believe - else we'd have a fairly beige existence without some dedicated and inspiring individuals. (This statement could also be considered to be driving a keyboard while UTI, so feel free to take all of this with a heap of salt).
Quote from: Eoin McLove on February 01, 2020, 10:00:27 PM
Jesus Christ, who gives a flying fuck. What are the lot of you on about! Unreal.
;D ;D Nice
YOU ARE ALL UNTROO... LEAVE THE FUCKING HALL!!!! :abbath: :abbath: :abbath: :abbath:
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YOU ARE ALL UNTROO... LEAVE THE FUCKING HALL!!!! :abbath: :abbath: :abbath: :abbath:
Brother Of Metal - whence cometh the accusation of untr00ness? It is bred in the veins, nay, my very essence! /s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaXzcTrY0Vg
Quote from: Nail_Bombed on February 01, 2020, 11:28:43 PM
Quote from: Aborted on February 01, 2020, 11:20:41 PM
YOU ARE ALL UNTROO... LEAVE THE FUCKING HALL!!!! :abbath: :abbath: :abbath: :abbath:
Brother Of Metal - whence cometh the accusation of untr00ness? It is bred in the veins, nay, my very essence! /s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaXzcTrY0Vg
Brother... tho can readeth all abooteth... https://youtu.be/l_WMHg8c_4I (https://youtu.be/l_WMHg8c_4I)
:laugh: Double Manowar posting FTW. Edit: aha, editing goblins arrived. I approve also of the metal that is true from Dream Evil. :abbath:
Fuck all.of yis, I'm not even into anything too underground but I really like that people are. Long live the church burners, life would be truly awful without them.
'Andy is sound, he's just too fond of the internet' - a well known musician from Dublin. Don't be too harsh on him, John.
My woman has the worlds worst taste in music (she went to Brian Adams in December) but I couldn't be bothered trying to 'convert' her. I took the car out yesterday and she had left a pen drive with 'mike and the mechanics' in the USB port. Mike and the mechanics and not a hint of irony boyz.
Choking Deafheaven fans is something every real man should do. In fact I don't think you can be a real man unless you've choked at least four Deafheaven fans to death.
Sunbather is a great record
You might enjoy it but I would disagree on it being good (such is being human), but the image of some dude trying to choke people at a deafheaven show is absolutely hilarious to me
I'm assuming he wasn't choking them because they were Deafheaven fans but because he was mental. But who knows.
Either way it's hilarious.
Quote from: Necro Lord on February 05, 2020, 12:12:15 AM
Choking Deafheaven fans is something every real man should do. In fact I don't think you can be a real man unless you've choked at least four Deafheaven fans to death.
It was you, wasn't it? ;)
Jesus, this thread really grew legs. Don't get on here that much, so I'm only checking back in now.
In hindsight it looks like a rant, but I'll have to study the responses for a few weeks :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
lmao I don't have quite enough money to waste on seeing bands I don't like but hey it could've been fun
Great thread.
Chuffed to find out that I must be high in the running for ultimate Irish metal wanker seeing as I'm both a pig molesting muck savage who gets wrecked at gigs AND a cuntish elitist who drunkenly stares menacingly at tourists and mainstreamers while wearing an obscure band t shirt whose illegible logo the victim doesn't recognise and feels intimidated by.
I think so. I remember the one and only time I was in the Venue in Belfast. Must have been. 2001.
I remember paying at the door and there was this fat 16 year old on a pair of crutches leaning against the wall smoking a cigarette.
He took a drag and then said to me with a smug look on his face "I saw Sabbath live with Ozzy". (I was wearing a black Sabbath T-shirt)
His face crumbled with disappointment when I just said "so've I" then turned around and ignored him.
I would have loved to said "you want a trophy or something?" but then he wouldn't have known I had seen Sabbath and he would think he was better than me.
Should have finished off by kicking the crutches from under him.. #livinyourbestmetalheadwankerlife :-*
I think what's been proven with this thread is that metalhead wankers (specifically Irish ones) are the absolute peak of human evolution.
It's all downhill from here.
Quote from: Aborted on February 06, 2020, 12:03:39 PM
Should have finished off by kicking the crutches from under him.. #livinyourbestmetalheadwankerlife :-*
And shout "you didn't see that coming, did ya?"
Then forced him to do the chuffle shuffle.
Serves him right for being a fat cunt.
I've been thinking about the original question, and yes would have to be the answer. I love metal and I'm quite fond of wanking. I'm currently fapping myself silly with a Manowar lp sleeve. The papercuts are worth it.
I'd say wankers at an Irish metal show is just symptomatic of wankers at any Irish gig in general. We're either stumbling around langers or standing there with the arms folded for two hours because it's on a school night and the brain wasn't allowed a few scoops. Smaller gigs is where it's at for me, these days. You'd try and cultivate a measured, meditative mindset going into the 3 arena but there's going to be a knob goblin creep out at some point in the show who just tests your patience.
For me it's still on the better end of community based scenes, and a lot of outsiders would concede that too. So to that extent for every Tuborg farting dungeon master, I'd still take metal gigs any day over the scores of house sets I've been to that are precursors to gaf parties, festivals that preen the "everybody connected!" maxim, filled with wankers who think enlightenment is a half a tab and tent sex away etc. And I love my dance music. I'm a psychedelic casualty. Over the hill, though.
Not sure how serious the suggestion is, but I loath this "people who go around dressed like a metalhead all the time" shit too. Is it that bizarre insecurity about being associated with others who share your interests that some people have? I've gotten it from the wrestling fanbase, too, where there's definitely a huge overlap.
Listen, I don't wear Emperor or Siege of Limerick t-shirts to the office to impress anybody. I wear them because they cost about a tenner and last twice as long as a blank shirt you'd pay 20 squids for in H&M. Cvzy and cvst effective.
Quote from: Doctor Crippen on January 31, 2020, 01:19:58 PM
Regarding the punk scene, punks are the biggest elitists out there, "you don't have this limited edition picture disc? You're not a real punk"
I don't know any punks who talk like that, are you sure you are not mixing them up with cunts? Most punks I know and grew up with, bought records when they could, the same as the people I hung around with who were into heavy metal. That is a bit of push that auld statement man
I gotta agree with you, in my opinion punk bands and crowds tend to be the soundest. We get booked by punk promoters even though we're nothing like punk, they are in general sound and open to other acts.
Hip Hop fans actually are ridiculously supportive of each other and welcoming, like the artists all go each others gigs. Metal people are competitive and almost want everyone to fail it feels like.
Quote from: StrangersWithGuns on February 11, 2020, 01:55:58 PM
Quote from: Doctor Crippen on January 31, 2020, 01:19:58 PM
Regarding the punk scene, punks are the biggest elitists out there, "you don't have this limited edition picture disc? You're not a real punk"
I don't know any punks who talk like that, are you sure you are not mixing them up with cunts? Most punks I know and grew up with, bought records when they could, the same as the people I hung around with who were into heavy metal. That is a bit of push that auld statement man
I gotta agree with you, in my opinion punk bands and crowds tend to be the soundest. We get booked by punk promoters even though we're nothing like punk, they are in general sound and open to other acts.
Aye the punk scene is quite sound now. Wasn't about 20 years ago. Very judgemental asshats in that scene years ago. But there's judgmental fucks in every scene I suppose. And most metal heads are sound. Just the bigger gigs get the gobshytes out.
Quote from: Doctor Crippen on January 31, 2020, 01:19:58 PM
Regarding the punk scene, punks are the biggest elitists out there, "you don't have this limited edition picture disc? You're not a real punk"
I don't know any punks who talk like that, are you sure you are not mixing them up with cunts? Most punks I know and grew up with, bought records when they could, the same as the people I hung around with who were into heavy metal. That is a bit of push that auld statement man
Even funnier since, here on the continent (France and Spain anyway), you're not a "real punk" unless you live on the street with an enormous dog. How's that for elitist standards!
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on February 12, 2020, 10:07:57 AM
Quote from: Doctor Crippen on January 31, 2020, 01:19:58 PM
Regarding the punk scene, punks are the biggest elitists out there, "you don't have this limited edition picture disc? You're not a real punk"
I don't know any punks who talk like that, are you sure you are not mixing them up with cunts? Most punks I know and grew up with, bought records when they could, the same as the people I hung around with who were into heavy metal. That is a bit of push that auld statement man
Even funnier since, here on the continent (France and Spain anyway), you're not a "real punk" unless you live on the street with an enormous dog. How's that for elitist standards!
Bring them over here and try letting them live like that. The auld báisteach agus sneachta wouldn't be long knocking the punk outta dem. :laugh:
The new version of the squat? 😂
on the topic of metalheads being assholes!
I don't think its worthy of a thread of it's own but is anyone following the Stoned meadow of Doom drama? I don't know too much about the lad but liked the channel. He's getting a bad one....some people are going all out on him. Shite enough if the channel gets ruined....but im sure there's others.
Quote from: uncle flacid on February 19, 2020, 06:16:51 PM
on the topic of metalheads being assholes!
I don't think its worthy of a thread of it's own but is anyone following the Stoned meadow of Doom drama? I don't know too much about the lad but liked the channel. He's getting a bad one....some people are going all out on him. Shite enough if the channel gets ruined....but im sure there's others.
Plenty of similar channels up, 666MrDoom and Rob Hammer being two main ones.
The lad on SMOD is getting tore apart now for some odd antisemitic comments that came up and general right-wing views. Serious arguments in shit tons of doom groups about it. But if you strip back these comments, and his political views, the lad is still a complete arsehole and anyone looking at this for a few years knows it. I haven't a clue how it took until now for people to back away from him. A brief overview on stuff happening since 2015:
- Stole reviews for blurbs on his uploads. Denied it and blocked the journalist on all social media when contacted to add credit. Owned up when it was presented to some Doom FB groups.
- Asked bands to sign an exclusive 'exposure contract' that let him keep all ad profits from uploads and forced the bands to remove their vids from other uploaders pages. When he got pulled on this he fucked the bands out of it for talking about it and removed their videos from his channel. Apparently he has since changed the contract.
- Issued DMCA requests on other channels to have them removed in a monopoly attempt to force traffic to his channel / bands to upload with him. Was called out on it in a huge FB thread in the largest Doom group, he made an absolute arse of himself (I was in the thread at the time) and way more shit came out, including:
- Ran a festival where he asked bands to pay to submit an application to play. I think it was $50 a submission. He gave out to anyone who asked what it was for, more fool on anyone who paid to submit to it. I don't know the full ins and outs of the gig but a few bands online complained about how it was run, not getting paid and poor setup.
Across all of this, generally acted like an arsehole. Plenty of stuff coming out now about it, him fucking bands out of it for not uploading with him, general egotistical shit about how the whole doom scene would be ruined without him, how bands start up just to get featured on his youtube (lol) and then setting up a closed FB group / echo chamber where he bans anyone who doesn't lick his hole. If bands asked him to remove their videos he'd flip, plenty of screenshots of him telling bands they would be nothing without him, etc. But - so many people stood up for him through all of this because they got YouTube traffic off it. Bands turned a blind eye to him because of the huge subscriber count on his channel. The lad contributed very little and made thousands in ad revenue monthly off the backs of other peoples music. It took these other comments for the larger community to realise what he's like but he has always been shitty and shady.
Would I be being a wanker Irish metalhead by pointing out you just made an on-topic topic doubly off-topic? ;) :abbath:
I dunno lads, in my experience there is no higher proportion of cunts and troglodytes at metal shows than at any other show. I'd say a big portion of the bad behaviour is more down to lads with poor social skills, people who don't get out much losing the run of themselves and folk who can't handle the drink.
As for snobbery with regards to certain bands, or people perceiving the Irish metal scene as competitive (a sentiment I've seen repeated over the years) I personally don't see it. I've often been branded by my peers as elitist or snobby when discussing music but its really just I personally don't mince my words, if I don't like something I'll be honest. I don't care that the majority of people view the music I play and enjoy as garbage and neither should anyone else. Listen to what you like and fuck everyone else! I view anything else as disengenious.
I think a big portion of people branding certain aspects of the metal scene in ireland as elitist is just people who can't handle the fact that not everyone who moves in the same circles as you will like your music and unfortunately a portion of them won't beat around the Bush if they think it sucks. Just because you share a genre doesn't mean people will automatically like your music. Sure some people can be cutthroat when engaging online but I personally couldn't give a toss if anyone likes my bands output and neither should anyone else. Make and listen to music because you like it and don't worry about whatever the lad with the patch jacket thinks 😂
I disagree. I think music (and possibly all art) should be made by consensus. Suss out from a broad spectrum of listeners what their favourite DM band is. Then go to your lab, input the data, and find the exact midpoint between Six Feet Under, Demilich, Children of Bodom, Amon Amarth and Swallowed, and then go and write those exact songs. If, under those scientifically rigid and uncontestable standards you don't become immediately famous with your digital download only double album, then you have every right to call people elitists.
Just remember, don't add a single iota of personality of creativity into the mix or it may become contaminated and unusable.
😂 I'll bear that in mind next I sit down to write.
Quote from: RICK-MCQUICK on January 30, 2020, 06:36:39 PM
I love metal, but hate 99% of metalheads in Ireland.
So you have met/observed/conversed with every single metalhead in Ireland have you? And you actually genuinely hate 99% of them?
Quote from: Giggles on February 20, 2020, 06:25:25 AM
Quote from: RICK-MCQUICK on January 30, 2020, 06:36:39 PM
I love metal, but hate 99% of metalheads in Ireland.
So you have met/observed/conversed with every single metalhead in Ireland have you? And you actually genuinely hate 99% of them?
He has a point. I see myself as a 1 percent-er in the Irish metal community as well.
Quote from: Giggles on February 20, 2020, 06:25:25 AM
Quote from: RICK-MCQUICK on January 30, 2020, 06:36:39 PM
I love metal, but hate 99% of metalheads in Ireland.
So you have met/observed/conversed with every single metalhead in Ireland have you? And you actually genuinely hate 99% of them?
Well I actually reckon that it could be over 99% if we're being pedantic about it, perhaps 99.5%+.
Take Metallica at Slane for example. 80,000 capacity if I'm not mistaken, so 1% = 800. Definite wankers left in that single percentile.
So if we take 80,000 as our count and now look at the Voodoo Lounge size gigs (~400 or so), I still find these to have a sizeable, yet admittedly much smaller wank count.
Nixer - Shall we form an Irish metalhead <1% wanker alliance? I'll get us Zakk Wylde style vests done up :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
If the numbers are that high, do you ever think you might be the problem? Just saying :P
ludicrous!
Quote from: Eoin McLove on January 31, 2020, 10:55:08 AM
It's what you said. You think that people are trying to out-metal you with their t-shirts and discussion of old and obscure bands. In my experience, when I go to gigs, I meet up with other metal heads who I probably haven't seen in a while, we have a rake of pints (oppressive elitist pints by the looks of this thread) and catch up by discussing metal bands old and new. If that is somehow offensive to someone else for some obscure reason, well, I dunno... tough shit. It's a metal gig!
I like when people bring up bands I don't know. A lot of the time I check out these bands. I got accused of being an "eletist prick" years ago and "not supporting the Waterford scene". Lamb of God and the like don't exist in my universe, I don't care if you love them. I'm also not turning out to see some loathsome toss by a band who think Slipknot are the apex of extreme metal.
Try living in Sligo where if you're not frothing at the mouth to see a Metallica tribute for the 875th time you're asked "I thought you were supposed to be a rocker, bbboooooyyyyyyyy?".
There's a scene in Waterford?
Quote from: Juggz on February 20, 2020, 09:36:19 PM
There's a scene in Waterford?
I think he's getting mixed up with the siege of longford or whatever that festival is.
Quote from: RICK-MCQUICKTake Metallica at Slane for example.
No. I will not take the Metallica at Slane crowd as an example of Irish metalheads.
Look, I get your point and all, but you're talking through your hoop.
Never have I been to a metal gig in Ireland and have thought "hmmm, 99% of this crowd are wankers". Or any gig ever for that matter. So yeah, to answer your original question: you're a cranky old bastard!
Elitism is just setting standards get fukked poseur boyos!!!!!
Objectivity is a myth made by shitty bands to get you to think their music is anything other than toilet stuffing!!!!!!!
There are cuntbags everywhere /thread
Quote from: Giggles on February 21, 2020, 01:05:31 PM
Quote from: RICK-MCQUICKTake Metallica at Slane for example.
No. I will not take the Metallica at Slane crowd as an example of Irish metalheads.
Look, I get your point and all, but you're talking through your hoop.
Never have I been to a metal gig in Ireland and have thought "hmmm, 99% of this crowd are wankers". Or any gig ever for that matter. So yeah, to answer your original question: you're a cranky old bastard!
Have you ever worked the Bar at a gig? I'd say it'd be less stressful driving a steamroller through a minefield.
What would your example demograph be? You cannot compare the likes of Napalm Death gigs with Nightwish or that. So I decided to take the biggest possible audience. Cranky bastard point well and truly taken on board at this stage, I just don't understand the defence
Quote from: RICK-MCQUICK on February 20, 2020, 01:03:23 PM
Well I actually reckon that it could be over 99% if we're being pedantic about it, perhaps 99.5%+.
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And probably dwarfed by the percentage of wankers would you get in Tallaght Stadium for a Rovers vs Rovers II game... :P
Quote from: RICK-MCQUICKI just don't understand the defence
I'm not defending anybody, I just like calling people out on their bullshit. Oh so you work at a bar? Well that actually explains why you hate everybody so :laugh:
Fair enough.
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How uptight are you lot? You go to a gig on the weekend, have a heap of pints, chat to your mates and the odd eejit spills a pint here or there. It's fairly tame stuff. If human interaction is that difficult just stay at home :laugh:
Quote from: Mower Liberation Front on February 21, 2020, 07:00:35 PM
Quote from: RICK-MCQUICK on February 20, 2020, 01:03:23 PM
Well I actually reckon that it could be over 99% if we're being pedantic about it, perhaps 99.5%+.
And probably dwarfed by the percentage of wankers would you get in Tallaght Stadium for a Rovers vs Rovers II game... :P
New thread. Are 99% of League of Ireland fans wankers? :laugh: :laugh:
Quote from: Eoin McLove on February 21, 2020, 10:54:45 PM
How uptight are you lot? You go to a gig on the weekend, have a heap of pints, chat to your mates and the odd eejit spills a pint here or there. It's fairly tame stuff. If human interaction is that difficult just stay at home :laugh:
I haven't been to a gig in almost two years precisely because of this :laugh:
Quote from: Eoin McLove on February 21, 2020, 10:54:45 PM
How uptight are you lot? You go to a gig on the weekend, have a heap of pints, chat to your mates and the odd eejit spills a pint here or there. It's fairly tame stuff. If human interaction is that difficult just stay at home :laugh:
This. Exactly this. With some of the whinging that goes on in here and on the old forum in the gig threads, you'd swear that lads are almost looking for something to piss them off at a gig so they can whine about it on the internet later. Wasn't there somebody on here a while back moaning about overhearing a conversation that two people were having behind him in the que for the bar? Daft.
Bar work is an awful basis for a balanced perspective. You're literally penned in watching others have more fun whilst having to help them do it.
Obviously examples of clear and out knobbery exist which merits the thread, but you have feckers out there then who are like "Urgh there's drunk people at a gig. Urgh your man is wearing an obscure metal t shirt at a metal gig. Urgh look at them young fellas. Do my hobby like I do my hobby, and don't remind me too much that it's my hobby."
This thread is a wanker.
Quote from: RICK-MCQUICK on February 22, 2020, 01:02:47 AM
Quote from: Mower Liberation Front on February 21, 2020, 07:00:35 PM
Quote from: RICK-MCQUICK on February 20, 2020, 01:03:23 PM
Well I actually reckon that it could be over 99% if we're being pedantic about it, perhaps 99.5%+.
And probably dwarfed by the percentage of wankers would you get in Tallaght Stadium for a Rovers vs Rovers II game... :P
New thread. Are 99% of League of Ireland fans wankers? :laugh: :laugh:
No. The figures dropped dramatically once Limerick fucked off. :)
Quote from: RICK-MCQUICK on February 22, 2020, 01:02:47 AMNew thread. Are 99% of League of Ireland fans wankers? :laugh: :laugh:
No, it's soccer, so 100%.
Metalwankers.com
Quote from: Mower Liberation Front on February 22, 2020, 04:12:02 PM
Quote from: RICK-MCQUICK on February 22, 2020, 01:02:47 AM
Quote from: Mower Liberation Front on February 21, 2020, 07:00:35 PM
Quote from: RICK-MCQUICK on February 20, 2020, 01:03:23 PM
Well I actually reckon that it could be over 99% if we're being pedantic about it, perhaps 99.5%+.
And probably dwarfed by the percentage of wankers would you get in Tallaght Stadium for a Rovers vs Rovers II game... :P
New thread. Are 99% of League of Ireland fans wankers? :laugh: :laugh:
No. The figures dropped dramatically once Limerick fucked off. :)
Don't worry Shamrock Rovers B Team will more than make up for it.
We are all wank
Quote from: hellfire on February 20, 2020, 03:45:03 PM
Quote from: Eoin McLove on January 31, 2020, 10:55:08 AM
It's what you said. You think that people are trying to out-metal you with their t-shirts and discussion of old and obscure bands. In my experience, when I go to gigs, I meet up with other metal heads who I probably haven't seen in a while, we have a rake of pints (oppressive elitist pints by the looks of this thread) and catch up by discussing metal bands old and new. If that is somehow offensive to someone else for some obscure reason, well, I dunno... tough shit. It's a metal gig!
I like when people bring up bands I don't know. A lot of the time I check out these bands. I got accused of being an "eletist prick" years ago and "not supporting the Waterford scene". Lamb of God and the like don't exist in my universe, I don't care if you love them. I'm also not turning out to see some loathsome toss by a band who think Slipknot are the apex of extreme metal.
Stall the fucking ball one second..THE WATERFORD SCENE???? Tell me more. Especially given how my not overly metal half Waterford band couldnt get a gig in our hometown when we tried? :laugh:
I wouldn't say there is a Waterford "metal scene" and if there is I could only imagine.....but anyway, I'm from Waterford,the west side (closer to Cork) and metal of all forms were and still are popular in these parts....maybe due to being close to Cork and how good things were and still are for gigs. Bands wise Waterford was quiet enough and handful of bands in comparisen to soome of the other counties.
Are Irish metal heads wankers? it probably has more to do with the people themselves being dopes rather than the music they choose to listen to.
Jesus Christ, so some Nob jockey thinks that most of the Metallica crowd were metalheads? I reckon at the most, a quarter are metalheads, quarter rock fans, and the rest are 'big band,big stadium' show goers.
Metal gigs, especially small ones in Belfast are a chance to meet old mates that do or don't get out much, hit wetherspoons, get wankered, have a laugh, then hit the gig.
Most people are in great form, talking to strangers, getting along.
It's the 7ft, built like a shithouse, Europeans that are the mental fuckers at gigs, barging through the crowd, and that's just the women!!
Quote from: RICK-MCQUICK on January 30, 2020, 06:36:39 PM
I love metal, but hate 99% of metalheads in Ireland. Apart from a pretty tight circle of friends in the scene, I would usually socialise with childhood mates as I just can't be fucking arsed putting up with these saps. I have also recently taken to going to most of the bigger touring gigs abroad as between pint prices, taxi prices and these fucking arseholes, I'm just not enjoying myself.
It appears to me that your average metal fan is nothing short of a braindead luddite and I see this at most every gig in Ireland. Not only by the carry-on of them, but also the absolute backwards shite that they come out with.
Off the top of my head, some examples:
- "Fuck off you queer. Little faggot". Directed at my gay friend.
- "That fuckin' n*gger is the jacks". Directed at the guy cleaning your grease filled piss.
- The absolute head the ball that brought the dead bird to Mayhem last year.
- Telling a man in a suit that he shouldn't be at a Slayer gig and wasn't welcome.
- Some middle aged, fat baldy ape grabbed my girlfriend's tits at the YOB gig in Whelans a few years back. When confronted by my bawling girlfriend and furious self, his reply? "It was only a joke for fuck sake, calm down", to which his friends seemed to agree and looked bewildered that I was ready to burst the cunt.
- A chap trying to choke people at the Deafheaven gig in Whelans
So what do you think? Am I cranky old bastard or do you lot have any similar experiences to share?
With regards to the lad choking people at Deafheaven in Whelans. After a while I ended up fucking him across the room because he was going to end up getting a dig if he didn't stop. Seconds later the lads FUCKING DAD has me by the throat telling him to leave his young lad alone. Explained the situation to him and the da's response was "DON'T STAND UP THE FRONT THEN."
Yeah, mostly pricks. Bringing your da to back you up when you want to act the knob. Really metal.
Hang on, was this guy 12 years old? :laugh:
Is there anything more metal than bringing your auld lad to a Deafheaven gig to show him how you can choke lads?
Hang on, am I missing the terminology here. When you say choke do you mean he was literally going round trying to strangle people or is it slang for something else?
Quote from: bogwizard on March 05, 2020, 02:47:33 PM
With regards to the lad choking people at Deafheaven in Whelans. After a while I ended up fucking him across the room because he was going to end up getting a dig if he didn't stop. Seconds later the lads FUCKING DAD has me by the throat telling him to leave his young lad alone. Explained the situation to him and the da's response was "DON'T STAND UP THE FRONT THEN."
Yeah, mostly pricks. Bringing your da to back you up when you want to act the knob. Really metal.
That is fucking hilarious really.
I definitely remember someone grabbing him and warning him, presumably yourself. Didn't see anything else unfold afterwards though and really hope you fucked the oul lad across the room too.
Quote from: Kunt 4 Life on March 05, 2020, 03:58:54 PM
Hang on, am I missing the terminology here. When you say choke do you mean he was literally going round trying to strangle people or is it slang for something else?
Yes, he was fat little fucker up the front that was grabbing any moshers that seemed to knock into him by the throat and either holding them in a choke or dragging them to the ground.
And the moshers were ok with this happening..?
Until Rick mcquick stepped in.
I didn't grab him. That would be Mr. Bogwizard. I stand on the raised bit in Whelans due to reasons outlined throughout the thread.
From what I seen, people just either couldn't believe it or were so caught up in being kvlt in this new wave of Black Metal, that they didn't care. I do remember it being mentioned on the MI thread and Facebook event too
So one tit being aggressive with his oul lad bouncer is representative of the entire metal scene or the rest of the crowd who left him at it were wankers for not kicking his, and his oul lad's, bollocks in? Or they were both wankers for the opposite reasons? Or... or...
They should have followed them home, broke into their houses at a later date, drugged them, then cut out their kidneys then let them wake up in a bath of ice with a telephone and a number to call.
The phone number would be bogwizzards who would laugh and call them wankers down the phone.
Be mega awesome.
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Quote from: Eoin McLove on January 31, 2020, 10:55:08 AM
It's what you said. You think that people are trying to out-metal you with their t-shirts and discussion of old and obscure bands. In my experience, when I go to gigs, I meet up with other metal heads who I probably haven't seen in a while, we have a rake of pints (oppressive elitist pints by the looks of this thread) and catch up by discussing metal bands old and new. If that is somehow offensive to someone else for some obscure reason, well, I dunno... tough shit. It's a metal gig!
I like when people bring up bands I don't know. A lot of the time I check out these bands. I got accused of being an "eletist prick" years ago and "not supporting the Waterford scene". Lamb of God and the like don't exist in my universe, I don't care if you love them. I'm also not turning out to see some loathsome toss by a band who think Slipknot are the apex of extreme metal.
Stall the fucking ball one second..THE WATERFORD SCENE???? Tell me more. Especially given how my not overly metal half Waterford band couldnt get a gig in our hometown when we tried? :laugh:
Only saw this now. There was a very lame attempt at one from around 2008 to 2010. Made by wankers for wankers.
I remember after one of the Winterfests in Cork Alan Averill was outside the venue and he was mouthing out him, and he was telling one of the lads out of a local band to "go home" to which he replied "I am home". Mr. Nemtheanga shut up and fucked off after that. It was hilarious :laugh:
After hearing about Ireland Metal Heads I'm never saying anything bad about this forum EVER AGAIN.!!
Quote from: Kurt Cocaine on January 28, 2021, 09:56:14 AM
After hearing about Ireland Metal Heads I'm never saying anything bad about this forum EVER AGAIN.!!
Yep have been following that particular shitshow with a bag of popcorn!
Quote from: Collie45 on January 28, 2021, 08:26:21 PM
Quote from: Kurt Cocaine on January 28, 2021, 09:56:14 AM
After hearing about Ireland Metal Heads I'm never saying anything bad about this forum EVER AGAIN.!!
Yep have been following that particular shitshow with a bag of popcorn!
Thankfully I never bothered with FB or Twitter or any of that shite.
Is that an FB group? I've never heard of it but morbidly curious
Quote from: astfgyl on January 28, 2021, 08:40:18 PM
Is that an FB group? I've never heard of it but morbidly curious
https://forum.metalwarfare.com/index.php?topic=1513.0
Do you just lurk the Off Topic astfygl? :laugh:
Yeah. I hardly look at the main page lately, as much as I still listen to metal. Hardly ever a Godflesh appreciation thread on it.
I find that most of the people who complain about "elitists" are people who think showing off to 15 year olds in fibbers is the epitome of the Irish scene and who's taste in music and opinions comes straight out of metal hammer opinion pieces. Just my experience of things but I do understand that the ultra hardcore fanatics of metal can come across as intimidating or abrasive to some.
Quote from: El_ogre_del_Dublinios on January 31, 2021, 04:10:27 PM
I find that most of the people who complain about "elitists" are people who think showing off to 15 year olds in fibbers is the epitome of the Irish scene and who's taste in music and opinions comes straight out of metal hammer opinion pieces. Just my experience of things but I do understand that the ultra hardcore fanatics of metal can be about intimidating or abrasive to some.
At least nobody could ever find you intimidating or abrasive :laugh:
Quote from: Toeshaver General on January 31, 2021, 04:29:15 PM
Quote from: El_ogre_del_Dublinios on January 31, 2021, 04:10:27 PM
I find that most of the people who complain about "elitists" are people who think showing off to 15 year olds in fibbers is the epitome of the Irish scene and who's taste in music and opinions comes straight out of metal hammer opinion pieces. Just my experience of things but I do understand that the ultra hardcore fanatics of metal can be about intimidating or abrasive to some.
At least nobody could ever find you intimidating or abrasive :laugh:
Touché my man,
https://www.loudersound.com/features/meat-loaf-a-flying-wheelchair-and-the-greatest-story-ever-told (https://www.loudersound.com/features/meat-loaf-a-flying-wheelchair-and-the-greatest-story-ever-told)
QuoteThe rural rockers of Ireland, in particular, are the type of loyal fan every star craves. So long as there's a fella throwing shapes with a loud guitar and an act who'll play the hits, they'll go for it.
Ah the discerning mucksavages of Ireland. World famous so they are.
Quote from: TheRuts on February 03, 2021, 01:05:40 PM
https://www.loudersound.com/features/meat-loaf-a-flying-wheelchair-and-the-greatest-story-ever-told (https://www.loudersound.com/features/meat-loaf-a-flying-wheelchair-and-the-greatest-story-ever-told)
QuoteThe rural rockers of Ireland, in particular, are the type of loyal fan every star craves. So long as there's a fella throwing shapes with a loud guitar and an act who'll play the hits, they'll go for it.
Is that true? Best thing I've read in ages :laugh: I would have loved to se Meatloaf in that environment. Poetic, heroic stuff.
By the time the 'tour' reached The Oasis night club up our way the promoter had, on Meat's insistence, a no sale of alcohol in the venue rule.
This is Ireland Meat. The gig lasted a few songs, then MAYHEM... :abbath: :abbath: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: