Random Thoughts

[astfgyl]

Dunno what thread to go in with this and I don't follow it closely for obvious reasons of not having time to try verify everything, but what the fuck is that whole carry on with Putin and Wagner group? Is it a bluff or what's going on there?

[Caomhaoin]

Do pro-choice people really believe what they say?

Pro murder of unborn babies, you have to be a maniac.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Create the world in which it is always better for any woman, regardless of her circumstances or the circumstances of the conception, to have rather than not to have a baby and then maybe an argument can start to be constructed for mitigating the "choice" dimension.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Total coincidence, but I actually watched this documentary about the radical feminist movement of the 60s and 70s last night. You should give it a go Kev   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB54kDZg5t0

[Caomhaoin]

No, I don't think so.

Create a better world for women by butchering unborn babies? You and your pals in the Southern Poverty Law Centre can get tae fuck.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

The challenge to create such a world, or even imagine and begin to work towards it, is the burden of those that wish to do away with choice in this matter, was my point. It certainly can't go back to the way it was before.

[Ollkiller]

Double post

[Ollkiller]

No, I don't think so.

Create a better world for women by butchering unborn babies? You and your pals in the Southern Poverty Law Centre can get tae fuck.

So would you have a Handmamids Tale version of the world so. You're equating being pro choice as the same as fuck yeah murder those babies. It's not. I'm against abortion but still voted yes in the referendum. It's a woman's choice. Not mine to make for them. 

[Ollkiller]

Dunno what thread to go in with this and I don't follow it closely for obvious reasons of not having time to try verify everything, but what the fuck is that whole carry on with Putin and Wagner group? Is it a bluff or what's going on there?

Total bonkers stuff. Freely marched to within 200kim or so of Moscow on a fucking highway. Like their airforce could have taken them out at anytime but didnt. Defo had some backing in the Kremlin or elsewhere. Or a total con. Weird as hell.

[astfgyl]

Create the world in which it is always better for any woman, regardless of her circumstances or the circumstances of the conception, to have rather than not to have a baby and then maybe an argument can start to be constructed for mitigating the "choice" dimension.

That sounds fair but a lot of those are lazy bastards who didn't take precautions for one reason or another. Yes there are cases where it can seem somewhat justified to murder the unborn but those are rare ones compared to the number of terminations actually carried out. I don't think it should be criminalised because of those odd cases where it's life or death but even those are not black and white stuff. Pro choice? No bother then make the choice to stop taking pipe and you'll be fine. Worked in a pharmacy for years and had to deal with many many morning after requests, which the extremists would say it's wrong but I don't think it is, vs the notion that people can elect to do it up to birth which is abhorrent to me. There's somewhere in between those extremes where we might find reasonable discussion and the evolution of morality but then if you start stacking stones on top of each other or say grains of sand well then when does it become a pile of stones or sand rather than a few pieces? The way things are presented you'd think it has to be one or the other and I agree with your point that I'm quoting to a large extent but still wouldn't support on demand services

[Caomhaoin]

There is no justification for abortion

[open face surgery]

There absolutely is. To say otherwise is ridiculous. I've no interest in this conversation beyond saying that.

[Caomhaoin]

Well you are full of shit then.

[Trev]

There is no justification for abortion

If a woman is pregnant and gets cancer, what would you suggest?

[Caomhaoin]

That's a retarded question.