Random Thoughts

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

I know it seems like there's an easy ultimate moral high ground there Kev, because back when I was in the church it's the position I had been passed down and held myself for years, until I started listening to people instead of doctrine. But the moral high ground doesn't consist in condemnation; condemnation is almost always a moral low road (WWJD!). The moral high ground for any pro-life movement worthy of the name would consist in working towards reconstructing society in such a way that new life is always a guaranteed positive, firstly for the mother, and secondly but most importantly for the children themselves. If you like, you can consider abortion legislation as having been predominantly a legal solution to a social failing. But, perhaps not ironically, historically speaking those who became the loudest pro-life voices had been those most instrumental in creating the situations that were driving more and more women to seek dangerous illegal abortions. They cared more about dogma than life. Generally speaking, absolutist statements are reflections of dogma rather than life. 

[Caomhaoin]

Absolute shite. Defend abortion, i.e the butchering of unborn children.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Absolute shite. Defend abortion, i.e the butchering of unborn children.

Another irony is that men just like you used to call women hysterical because they thought the latter weren't capable of being rational and detached when it came to important issues but instead resorted to emotional language and tactics

You're saying the pro-choice movement is pro-murder. I'm saying the pro-life movement are merely anti-abortion and couldn't give a pragmatic shit about the lives of the babies they claim to want to "save".

[Ollkiller]

That's a retarded question.

It's a totally appropriate question. A cousin of mine 10 years ago get a cancer diagnosis whilst pregnant. Kept the kid. Back then couldnt have an abortion. Which would have greatly increased her chance of survival. And shes dead now.

[Caomhaoin]

Shocker, another post with no merit.

There is no justification for abortion.

[Caomhaoin]

That's a retarded question.

It's a totally appropriate question. A cousin of mine 10 years ago get a cancer diagnosis whilst pregnant. Kept the kid. Back then couldnt have an abortion. Which would have greatly increased her chance of survival. And shes dead now.

How is it an appropriate question? How often does that happen?

[Carnage]

Savita Halappanavar.

You're eseentially stamping your feet and throwing a tantrum here. Not a good look.

[Caomhaoin]

Thanks, good man.

[Ollkiller]

That's a retarded question.

It's a totally appropriate question. A cousin of mine 10 years ago get a cancer diagnosis whilst pregnant. Kept the kid. Back then couldnt have an abortion. Which would have greatly increased her chance of survival. And shes dead now.

How is it an appropriate question? How often does that happen?

That's a retarded question.

It's a totally appropriate question. A cousin of mine 10 years ago get a cancer diagnosis whilst pregnant. Kept the kid. Back then couldnt have an abortion. Which would have greatly increased her chance of survival. And shes dead now.

How is it an appropriate question? How often does that happen?

Ah here. Right. Of to do something useful.

[Caomhaoin]

What's your argument? Butcher the unborn to extend the life of the mother?

[Ollkiller]

What's your argument? Butcher the unborn to extend the life of the mother?

Yes. If the mothers life is in danger then yeah. The mother can have more kids.

[Caomhaoin]

So, we butcher a baby to save the mother?

[astfgyl]

At the end of the day lads, whether you are in or out on the whole thing you are justifying killing the unborn. I'm of the opinion that sometimes that's indeed justified but that's as rare as fuck and if you weigh it up in favour well then your justification must be very good and very fucking proper ie self defence I only killed him because he'd have killed (sometimes in the mental sense rather than the physical ie rape and shit) me otherwise. Outside of that you're all sick fucks to think that's any way acceptable and whatever political view you have that says otherwise is wrong.

[astfgyl]

So, we butcher a baby to save the mother?

Sometimes kev I think that position can be justified but it's far fuckin rarer than it's presented as

[Caomhaoin]

If you are pro baby murder, fuck you. Endy fuckin story