Faith No More Reuniting?

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

they had the whackiness/inventiveness/unpredictability of prime Faith No More

Ah... I had tldr'ed that post 

Lettin' the side down with that one Andy!

[Emphyrio]

they had the whackiness/inventiveness/unpredictability of prime Faith No More

I think he means the kind of silly stuff that shouldn't work, but somehow does.

[Trev]

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I mean, I don't even know which one plays which instrument between "Otto" and "Rivers", names I'm not even familiar with, but Borland is, at best, competent.

Ah no, Borland is a fucking great, if unconventional, guitarist

[Eoin McLove]

My point is that, comparing them with the overall nu metal movement, they were taking their cues from outside of that narrow realm. FNM were whacky, inventive and creative, and I can see those same traits in the first SOAD album. I think they took influence from Angel Dust and put their own, ethnic spin on it. Would I rate their album above The Real Thing or Angel Dust? No. But I think that in their own right they did a great job on that multi- dimensional album.

[Pentagrimes]

I'd say if we're playing the Patton-influencing-SOAD card it's probably more the "wackiness" or mischievousness of the first Mr. Bungle that I hear on th first SOAD album than FNM. I also hear a lot more punk in there than most people as well I'd expect, Dead Kennedys in particular. They don't sound like either of these bands directly, but I hear that influence in there more than anything of "Angel dust".

SOAD are basically a metal Oingo Boingo I reckon.

No major interest in them, but they aren't the worst. I always thought they got lumped in wit Nu Metal for their timing rather than anything, they don't have the same chugga chugga thing to my ears.

[Eoin McLove]

Defo a punk buzz with them, yup. DK is a spot on reference point.

[Barnacle Billy]

SOAD: Like them or loathe them. There's no denying their pulling power...
Saw them in the Strawberry Arena in Stockholm a month ago and it was rammed...


Strawberry Arena has a concert capacity of approximately 60,000 to 65,000 people, depending on the layout and position of the stage. Maximum configurations for specific show setups can occasionally scale up to around 75,000.

[Barnacle Billy]

Can't deny the energy in the place. Pits going on everywhere, was serious craic up the front...

Instagram and the likes are helping the numbers no doubt...

Edit: I tried to time stamp it to the 18min 15secs part, where the video expands on the crowd...


And at 131mins... Was epic!

[open face surgery]

Bought the first album after hearing Know and War? on free CDs at the time but found the album too eccentric, for want of a better word, so sold it again. Toxicity was big when I was in school but never had any interest in it.

[John Kimble]

Nothing could be clearer to me than why many metallers did and would absolutely despise SOAD. But seriously, if you're going to try and come up with arguments to try to prove that some of their mainstream metal peers were better on some kind of objective genuinely artistic grounds then that could only possibly produce hilarious results. So please, please, please... do carry on! 

Don't want to derail the thread from FNM any further but yeah, this is spot on.
Not a fan of SOAD by any means but if you're gonna slate them while trying to make a case for the abysmal likes of Limp Bizkit, then you're at nothing really. Regardless of their relative 'musical' merits, at least they had a bit more going on than the dumb as fuck, whiny jock rock peddled by LB. Dunno if it's just a misplaced sense of nostalgia or attempt at irony, but this nu metal revival can go fuck off.

[Carnage]

I heard a track off the first SOAD album in Supermac's of all places, must have been on John Kenny's show. Hated the vocals, liked the riffs. Bought and loved the album at the time, but I find it unlistenable now. Toxicity was dull, Steal This Album! was shite. Hypnotise and Mesmerise (to spell them correctly) are great, and best listened to as a unit. They've held up well and are probably the only albums from the nu metal days that are listenable for me.

Are they better than the classic FNM releases? Of course not, and I'd never put them above FNM on a live bill. But they probably draw more punters (like it or not, there's a generation who've never heard FNM) and as a result, there they are.

Limp Biscuit are shite, just no.


(This should probably continue in the nu metal thread TBF.)

[Pagan Saviour]

I don't think anyone was "making a case" or "defending" LB, I personally think both bands are cack. I just happened to say I thought LB possess the better musicians and I still think that. I'm not at home listening to Chocolate Starfish on repeat or anything.


SOAD are as bad as any of the other crap mentioned and can't get over the favourable comparisons to Faith No More or now The first Mr Bungle record is being mentioned - this is lunacy.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5vBGOrI6yBk&ra=m&t=72s

[John Kimble]

Rightly or wrongly, FNM were always cited as an influence on nu metal but I doubt anyone could credibly claim that SOAD are artistically on par with them or Mr. Bungle.
Actually, just listened to that link above and it hasn't really aged that well to be honest. That said though, regardless of your views on their music, their politics or message, it's infinitely better than "I did it all for the nookie" or similar garbage.

[Pagan Saviour]

it's infinitely better

We're literally debating over perceived qualities of two lumps of shite. Think we should all just agree it's a sad world where Faith No More's comeback gigs are support to System of a Down.

[Born of Fire]

I like me a bit of SOAD and FNM never did anything for me. Now if you'll excuse me I appear to have a hall to leave