Crime Courts Law

[astfgyl]

This banklink thing is going to be asking serious questions of the role of the guards indeed.

LOL LOL LOL

[91/30]

It's not simply numbers, but equally how and where those numbers are applied too.

Garda management through tax and insurance. You could spend a couple of weeks/months interviewing people for an assault, gathering evidence etc, that might be 2 summons after all that work (You are supposed to get 20 summons a month), so they focused on stopping cars. If someones tax is out of date, 1 summons for non display, another summons for it being out of date, insurance the same, failure to bring the tax disc to the garda station, so you could easily rack up 3 in one go, few hours during a night shift, get a few cars like this to bump up their summons numbers, half of them would just make it up, just to get summons issued to fake addresses, it'd come back as failed to serve the summons (and nobody in the system would care). Systemic corruption that was normalised. He didn't stick it out after a few years. So it's never been surprising to him to see the articles on Gardai not answering back calls on domestic abuse, fake breathalyzer tests etc etc. And that was Tallaght station - imagine the amount of shite that goes on in that district and it's all fobbed off.

Lot of these functions could be outsourced to the dept of transport,  giving them the power to issue fines & cancel licences on non payment.

Technology is there to automatically run checks against number plates in real time. Seems to be the state is generally weak, which suits the political elite to play stroke politics and gombeenism for their clients (supporters). Going to the local 'clinic' run by the local TD "I got this ould traffic fine , can you have a look at it and help me" 

Tbh that day is mostly gone unless they know you. The way it works is you have a loophole until it's entered into PULSE but once it's in there's no editing that so the new loophole is that you invoke a name and they never get as far as entering it on PULSE. Basically nothing changes and the lads can stay doing whatever as long as they know how to use the new loophole, ie "ring Johnny Maher, he knows me".

You'd expect they'd issue the fine against the number plate - put the onus on the owner to nominate if themselves or someone else was driving when the offence was committed.

Plenty of 'TD clinics' in rural Ireland dealing with matters which should be outside their control to influence - you're right as long as you are 'connected' 3rd generation FF or blueshirt voter

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

That bank of Ireland story is so good 

https://twitter.com/EoinKeane101/status/1691579141928230993

[Carnage]

Surely preventing people from accessing their own money - as I'm sure the odd person in the queue wanted to do - is illegal?

[astfgyl]

That bank of Ireland story is so good 

https://twitter.com/EoinKeane101/status/1691579141928230993

Ah lad I reckon that if they were all going to be debited that then they wouldn't need the guards at all....

So they are going to get the free money if they make it to the ATM.

Where are the guards when we need some crime to be dealt with?

AH LADS ITS GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF RTE TO WASH THIS AWAY LOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOL

[mickO)))]

Where are the guards when we need some crime to be dealt with?

Dealing with those criminals who didn't pay road tax.
I read yesterday they are still bringing people to court who have been accused of breaching the 5km distance from home thing during the lockdown.

[astfgyl]

Where are the guards when we need some crime to be dealt with?

Dealing with those criminals who didn't pay road tax.
I read yesterday they are still bringing people to court who have been accused of breaching the 5km distance from home thing during the lockdown.

They actually are and all. Some joke

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

https://twitter.com/DrHaroldNews/status/1691719071312601433?s=20

 

[Ollkiller]

https://twitter.com/DrHaroldNews/status/1691719071312601433?s=20

 

 

[astfgyl]

Very good!

There's a lot to unpack with that ATM issue indeed. Under what law were they operating for a start? Where did they suddenly find the manpower? How were they legally blocking people from withdrawing their own cash, if they had funds available? Can BOI actually force people to pay it back (what I'm hearing is that they probably can't, but may instead report people who refuse to engage to the central credit register)?

Anyone on here partake of it at all, and what did BOI say to you if you did?

How old were you when you first let a man make love to you?
Next who was he?
Next, how did you feel at the time?
Next, how did you feel afterwards?
What did you feel, what did you think?
Were you pleased, frightened, ecstatic, disgusted?
What did he say? What words did you speak?
That's what I want to know
Now, tell me, now, now, all of it, now, tell me, yes!

[locustfurnace]

Can BOI actually force people to pay it back (what I'm hearing is that they probably can't, but may instead report people who refuse to engage to the central credit register)?

Apprentice at work got €300 out, they took it out of his account this morning the minute his wages went in, he's with BOI, his buddy got €1000 out and still hasn't had it taken back off him, also with BOI but he doesn't have the means in his account to cover it currenty...

[nukeabuse]

Theres a pretty good Michael parenti quote sums up the polices role in it all, cba looking it up now but same one used at the start of leftover crack song. Jist is cops only existing for the protection of private property. But I'm sure that's not news to anyone

[The Butcher]

It's not simply numbers, but equally how and where those numbers are applied too.

Garda management through tax and insurance. You could spend a couple of weeks/months interviewing people for an assault, gathering evidence etc, that might be 2 summons after all that work (You are supposed to get 20 summons a month), so they focused on stopping cars. If someones tax is out of date, 1 summons for non display, another summons for it being out of date, insurance the same, failure to bring the tax disc to the garda station, so you could easily rack up 3 in one go, few hours during a night shift, get a few cars like this to bump up their summons numbers, half of them would just make it up, just to get summons issued to fake addresses, it'd come back as failed to serve the summons (and nobody in the system would care). Systemic corruption that was normalised. He didn't stick it out after a few years. So it's never been surprising to him to see the articles on Gardai not answering back calls on domestic abuse, fake breathalyzer tests etc etc. And that was Tallaght station - imagine the amount of shite that goes on in that district and it's all fobbed off.

Lot of these functions could be outsourced to the dept of transport,  giving them the power to issue fines & cancel licences on non payment.

Technology is there to automatically run checks against number plates in real time. Seems to be the state is generally weak, which suits the political elite to play stroke politics and gombeenism for their clients (supporters). Going to the local 'clinic' run by the local TD "I got this ould traffic fine , can you have a look at it and help me" 

I agree the tech is there to run checks number plates etc but I still think the most straight forward route is tax on fuel which gives everyone basic third party insurance. Otherwise the whole idea of fines = non payment = wasted court time.

They will add fake names/addresses onto Pulse to bump up numbers - Usually halting sites are put down as they know no one will go and check.

[The Butcher]

This banklink thing is going to be asking serious questions of the role of the guards indeed.

LOL LOL LOL

Definitely. All the little things add up over time - Probably the least respected they have ever been and government the least trusted.

[mickO)))]

Another stabbing in the city centre yesterday morning.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2023/0821/1400761-grafton-stabbing/