Crime Courts Law

[astfgyl]

Yep all that sounds about right. The pay isn't meant to be great starting off either so you'd have to really enjoy clashing with the criminal scum to take it up. They need to do something to attract new faces though, as going around to the Islam community centres doesn't seem to be doing the trick as of yet

[Kunt 4 Life]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw485k7e40jo

Seems the American is out of the coma.
Bad look for the Irish tourist industry considering the Americana seem to love this place

[Yung Led Zeppelin]

The US embassy issuing a safety warning for Ireland is objectively fucking hilarious when if you're going off stats/facts rather than vibes, you're more likely to be shot going to fucking school in the States than at any point of your life in Ireland (which remains one of the safest countries on the planet).

I dunno, people have lost the plot.

[Carnage]

It's no worse now than it's ever been. I was mugged twice in the early '90s (though to my credit, the cunts got nothing), but got through the late '90s/early '00s that I lived there without any hassle. It's luck of the draw. It's a horrible, horrible place to spend time now, but I'm sure the tourists just see what they want to see (faith and isn't the luck of the Irish fiddelydoo etc.)

[Caomhaoin]

Brought the wife there over Christmas for the day as she'd never seen the city. I didn't get any bad vibes really, and the only robbery that was done was by the boozers and restaurants we frequented.

I was looking out for the 'open air drug markets on O'Connell street etc but I didn't see any. Granted it was daytime and the Christmas period.

[Pagan Saviour]

More tourists assaulted in Helen Mccentee's safe Dublin this weekend. From the uk this time, broken noses, heads danced on. Perpetrators a mere 17 years old.

[astfgyl]

Ahhh the old Fighting Irish living up to the popular stereotype. 45 more guards will sort it, just give it a few years to find them and qualify them. I wonder would a more libertarian approach to things that don't hurt people have led to more free time for preventing things like this? Ah we'll never know now, gambler's ruin and all that...

[Pagan Saviour]

Did you see three Trainee Gardai were sent packing from templemore because of their tattoos? The system is on its knees and you're sending people packing over that?

[hellfire]

Ahhh the old Fighting Irish living up to the popular stereotype. 45 more guards will sort it, just give it a few years to find them and qualify them. I wonder would a more libertarian approach to things that don't hurt people have led to more free time for preventing things like this? Ah we'll never know now, gambler's ruin and all that...

Peter McVerry was spot on the other day. You can have all the extra Gardai you want but it will amount to nothing unless you start getting some of the lads off drugs.

[astfgyl]

I know of two young lads 15 years old last week who jumped the wall into the back yard of a factory across the road. Nothing in there other than scrap trucks, but anyhow the two boys set off the alarm, bringing two squad cars and a paddywagon to the rescue within five minutes of them getting in there (I know this because I saw the two lads 5 minutes earlier walking that direction and then got to witness them being wrestled to the ground by four guards while the 5th was coming on in the wagon. The two young lads have no record and are not known to the local guards other than they play a bit of hurling and soccer for the local teams.

This is in a small town in Tipp with a low level of violent crime (other than that inflicted on the criminals by each other of course) and they have that manpower available at the drop of a hat like that, while there is open heroin dealing in the local train station and a certain untouchable ethnic minority who cause all the trouble but the guards won't bother with.

It's not simply numbers, but equally how and where those numbers are applied too.

[The Butcher]

It's not simply numbers, but equally how and where those numbers are applied too.

Bro was saying "go sit in any district court in ireland, hours and hours of wasted time, 90% of it is setting a date for things that shouldn't even be in court" We have journalists in court every day and you would think they would link the constant garbage and report on it.

He talked about the sheer effort re: tax and insurance for cars, if just slapped on fuel to allow 3rd party for the vehicle covered, priorities would have to shift. When he was a student Garda, he was told he'd be going to a checkpoint for the first time, the Sergeant said

"This will be your bread and butter."

My bro said that killed him, thinking "I don't want to be a tax collector, I want to be a police officer." He said they fobbed off as much as they could. Some of it had to do with how easy it was to obtain a high amount of summons for Garda management through tax and insurance. You could spend a couple of weeks/months interviewing people for an assault, gathering evidence etc, that might be 2 summons after all that work (You are supposed to get 20 summons a month), so they focused on stopping cars. If someones tax is out of date, 1 summons for non display, another summons for it being out of date, insurance the same, failure to bring the tax disc to the garda station, so you could easily rack up 3 in one go, few hours during a night shift, get a few cars like this to bump up their summons numbers, half of them would just make it up, just to get summons issued to fake addresses, it'd come back as failed to serve the summons (and nobody in the system would care). Systemic corruption that was normalised. He didn't stick it out after a few years. So it's never been surprising to him to see the articles on Gardai not answering back calls on domestic abuse, fake breathalyzer tests etc etc. And that was Tallaght station - imagine the amount of shite that goes on in that district and it's all fobbed off.

[91/30]

It's not simply numbers, but equally how and where those numbers are applied too.

Garda management through tax and insurance. You could spend a couple of weeks/months interviewing people for an assault, gathering evidence etc, that might be 2 summons after all that work (You are supposed to get 20 summons a month), so they focused on stopping cars. If someones tax is out of date, 1 summons for non display, another summons for it being out of date, insurance the same, failure to bring the tax disc to the garda station, so you could easily rack up 3 in one go, few hours during a night shift, get a few cars like this to bump up their summons numbers, half of them would just make it up, just to get summons issued to fake addresses, it'd come back as failed to serve the summons (and nobody in the system would care). Systemic corruption that was normalised. He didn't stick it out after a few years. So it's never been surprising to him to see the articles on Gardai not answering back calls on domestic abuse, fake breathalyzer tests etc etc. And that was Tallaght station - imagine the amount of shite that goes on in that district and it's all fobbed off.

Lot of these functions could be outsourced to the dept of transport,  giving them the power to issue fines & cancel licences on non payment.

Technology is there to automatically run checks against number plates in real time. Seems to be the state is generally weak, which suits the political elite to play stroke politics and gombeenism for their clients (supporters). Going to the local 'clinic' run by the local TD "I got this ould traffic fine , can you have a look at it and help me" 

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Interesting insights about how it all functions. Quantitative incentives for qualitative work are bullshit, worse than nothing, and we've known this in terms of results since the 90s so didn't know was still used in Ireland. Does fit with some recent cases I've heard details of though.

[astfgyl]

It's not simply numbers, but equally how and where those numbers are applied too.

Bro was saying "go sit in any district court in ireland, hours and hours of wasted time, 90% of it is setting a date for things that shouldn't even be in court" We have journalists in court every day and you would think they would link the constant garbage and report on it.

He talked about the sheer effort re: tax and insurance for cars, if just slapped on fuel to allow 3rd party for the vehicle covered, priorities would have to shift. When he was a student Garda, he was told he'd be going to a checkpoint for the first time, the Sergeant said

"This will be your bread and butter."

My bro said that killed him, thinking "I don't want to be a tax collector, I want to be a police officer." He said they fobbed off as much as they could. Some of it had to do with how easy it was to obtain a high amount of summons for Garda management through tax and insurance. You could spend a couple of weeks/months interviewing people for an assault, gathering evidence etc, that might be 2 summons after all that work (You are supposed to get 20 summons a month), so they focused on stopping cars. If someones tax is out of date, 1 summons for non display, another summons for it being out of date, insurance the same, failure to bring the tax disc to the garda station, so you could easily rack up 3 in one go, few hours during a night shift, get a few cars like this to bump up their summons numbers, half of them would just make it up, just to get summons issued to fake addresses, it'd come back as failed to serve the summons (and nobody in the system would care). Systemic corruption that was normalised. He didn't stick it out after a few years. So it's never been surprising to him to see the articles on Gardai not answering back calls on domestic abuse, fake breathalyzer tests etc etc. And that was Tallaght station - imagine the amount of shite that goes on in that district and it's all fobbed off.

I'm not a bit surprised and I don't doubt a word of that post. It's mismanagement and I believe most guards would far prefer to be busting heroin dealers and violent domestic abusing cunts than doing you for car tax or a tv license but as you say, which looks better on the books? I know the term kafkaesque is bandied about willy nilly but it really is getting kafkaesque in a lot of ways

[astfgyl]

It's not simply numbers, but equally how and where those numbers are applied too.

Garda management through tax and insurance. You could spend a couple of weeks/months interviewing people for an assault, gathering evidence etc, that might be 2 summons after all that work (You are supposed to get 20 summons a month), so they focused on stopping cars. If someones tax is out of date, 1 summons for non display, another summons for it being out of date, insurance the same, failure to bring the tax disc to the garda station, so you could easily rack up 3 in one go, few hours during a night shift, get a few cars like this to bump up their summons numbers, half of them would just make it up, just to get summons issued to fake addresses, it'd come back as failed to serve the summons (and nobody in the system would care). Systemic corruption that was normalised. He didn't stick it out after a few years. So it's never been surprising to him to see the articles on Gardai not answering back calls on domestic abuse, fake breathalyzer tests etc etc. And that was Tallaght station - imagine the amount of shite that goes on in that district and it's all fobbed off.

Lot of these functions could be outsourced to the dept of transport,  giving them the power to issue fines & cancel licences on non payment.

Technology is there to automatically run checks against number plates in real time. Seems to be the state is generally weak, which suits the political elite to play stroke politics and gombeenism for their clients (supporters). Going to the local 'clinic' run by the local TD "I got this ould traffic fine , can you have a look at it and help me" 

Tbh that day is mostly gone unless they know you. The way it works is you have a loophole until it's entered into PULSE but once it's in there's no editing that so the new loophole is that you invoke a name and they never get as far as entering it on PULSE. Basically nothing changes and the lads can stay doing whatever as long as they know how to use the new loophole, ie "ring Johnny Maher, he knows me".