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Title: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: northside hoop on September 23, 2019, 02:05:56 PM
https://www.ticketmaster.ie/venueartist/461698/735341?utm_source=na&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=tour_2020

Donington too
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Floss on September 23, 2019, 02:08:15 PM
Twice in B'fast on the same tour?
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: northside hoop on September 23, 2019, 02:09:37 PM
New album is imminent, was recorded earlier this year

EDIT: although it seems the press release is saying it's another leg of this tour.

Does anyone know the capacity of this festival?
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: DaveG on September 23, 2019, 02:23:02 PM
It's in a few different venues but this'll likely be Ormeau Park, so about 15k.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: heyjoe on September 23, 2019, 03:21:39 PM
Quote from: northside hoop on September 23, 2019, 02:09:37 PM
New album is imminent, was recorded earlier this year

EDIT: although it seems the press release is saying it's another leg of this tour.

Does anyone know the capacity of this festival?

"Next year we will play a number of countries and cities we have yet to visit on this incredible tour."

I thought a new album / tour was due but that reads like legacy of the beast continued.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Kunt 4 Life on September 23, 2019, 04:28:37 PM
Holy shit, Belfast is doing well
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Nixer on September 23, 2019, 05:41:42 PM
Dublin left out again.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Kunt 4 Life on September 23, 2019, 06:04:29 PM
Now you know how we felt for years, bitches :abbath:
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: stevie-0 on September 23, 2019, 08:33:14 PM
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Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Cryptic Stench on September 23, 2019, 09:43:14 PM
Be a hard border by then too lads. Extra spice right there.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Nixer on September 24, 2019, 10:07:13 AM
Isn't Bruce Prickinson a big pro-Brexit head?
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: wiped on September 24, 2019, 10:52:39 AM
Always travel up anytime Maiden play Belfast (despite hating the Odyssey or whatever it's called nowadays) ..... but outdoors in a field on a Monday night ... I'll give this one a miss. 
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Floss on September 24, 2019, 11:20:05 AM
Quote from: northside hoop on September 23, 2019, 02:09:37 PM
New album is imminent, was recorded earlier this year


Really? I hadn't heard that at all - brilliant if so. I'd be amazed if they squashed a recording session in between legs of this tour. Awesome news if its true
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Floss on September 24, 2019, 11:29:12 AM
 http://rockandrollgarage.com/iron-maiden-to-announce-new-album-in-the-coming-weeks/

Interesting!
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Blitzer666 on September 24, 2019, 11:30:45 AM
Quote from: wiped on September 24, 2019, 10:52:39 AM
Always travel up anytime Maiden play Belfast (despite hating the Odyssey or whatever it's called nowadays) ..... but outdoors in a field on a Monday night ... I'll give this one a miss.

It's not a bad spot, middle of a park, quite close to pubs etc, pretty small too.
Slash headlined last year and they had to give out tickets for free!! Lol
And it was stinkin pints of tennents too.
And it was Baltic and lashing.
Very amazed they are playing it.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: northside hoop on September 24, 2019, 01:10:17 PM
Quote from: Floss on September 24, 2019, 11:20:05 AM
Quote from: northside hoop on September 23, 2019, 02:09:37 PM
New album is imminent, was recorded earlier this year


Really? I hadn't heard that at all - brilliant if so. I'd be amazed if they squashed a recording session in between legs of this tour. Awesome news if its true

Hasn't been any official comments regarding it, but they we're spotted all over Paris, as was Kevin Shirley, over the space of a few months earlier this year. Paris is where BNW and The Book of Souls were recorded.

EDIT: I see all that info was in your very next post!
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Trev on September 24, 2019, 01:10:35 PM
Quote from: Floss on September 24, 2019, 11:29:12 AM
http://rockandrollgarage.com/iron-maiden-to-announce-new-album-in-the-coming-weeks/

Interesting!
Didn't realise Book of Souls is out four years already!

Still, bound to be the same tired chord progressions and overly long intros they've been doing since AMOLAD
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: paulioreillo on September 24, 2019, 01:34:28 PM
So are they going to make out like its still the LOTB tour, sell out the venue and then announce it'll be a new album tour?

Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Blitzer666 on September 24, 2019, 01:54:02 PM
Quote from: paulioreillo on September 24, 2019, 01:34:28 PM
So are they going to make out like its still the LOTB tour, sell out the venue and then announce it'll be a new album tour?

Hope not, I can just about remember aces high from the last Belfast gig!!
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: northside hoop on September 24, 2019, 02:20:07 PM
Quote from: paulioreillo on September 24, 2019, 01:34:28 PM
So are they going to make out like its still the LOTB tour, sell out the venue and then announce it'll be a new album tour?

I expect all will be revealed soon enough. I can't imagine them ignoring a new album if it's out by then. If it's not out by then I expect it will be very similar to the set they played on the other legs of the tour.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Nixer on September 24, 2019, 02:24:13 PM
Yeah it will be the whole new album followed by fear of the dark, two minutes to midnight and hallowed be thy name.

Bit of a sly move on the lads behalf. They must know that people have gotten dead wide to every second tour being a whole new album shoved down your neck and by announcing the dates before the album release date they will get all of the poor unsuspecting people's money.

Disgraceful carry on.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Rocky on September 24, 2019, 02:54:16 PM
Quote from: Blitzer666 on September 24, 2019, 01:54:02 PM
Quote from: paulioreillo on September 24, 2019, 01:34:28 PM
So are they going to make out like its still the LOTB tour, sell out the venue and then announce it'll be a new album tour?

Hope not, I can just about remember aces high from the last Belfast gig!!

I'm exactly the same, was completely mangled that night!
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Kunt 4 Life on September 24, 2019, 06:24:16 PM
Any predictions on who else is on the card? I'm guessing it's someone already on the download bill. Alestorm maybe?
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Floss on September 25, 2019, 09:19:50 AM

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Still, bound to be the same tired chord progressions and overly long intros they've been doing since AMOLAD
[/quote]

Yeah they have a formula and they know it well themselves - Shirley has often spoken about the long clean intros, the gallops, and the clean outro's  but hey, if a new album is half as good as the book of souls was it will be a dinger.  To be releasing such quality  this far into their career is amazing - not to mention Bruce's health during the recording of the BOS album where he sounds amazing... If the Belfast show is in support of a new album then thats a different kettle of fish - i  could be tempted, though its a long spin up from my part of the world...  They've always played 4, 5 or 6 new songs when touring a new alum (and rightly so) - with the expection of AMOLAD...  I wish Id seen them on that tour playing the full album - its a beauty... mind you, when it came out it passed me by for other reasons and I didnt rate it, but looking back I'd love to have seen it all played live...
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Blitzer666 on September 25, 2019, 11:41:20 AM
Quote from: Nixer on September 24, 2019, 10:07:13 AM
Isn't Bruce Prickinson a big pro-Brexit head?

And???
Boss of wetherspoons is too, but it won't stop plenty of metallers getting their pre gig £2 pints!!
T**t.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Cryptic Stench on September 25, 2019, 11:43:28 AM
QuoteAlestorm

I'd rather see Funeral for a Friend support again. Alestorm are a disease of a band.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Rocky on September 25, 2019, 12:04:13 PM
Any word on ticket price for this? Belsonic usually cap all their ticket prices pretty low so fingers crossed this will be the same.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Nixer on September 25, 2019, 12:25:28 PM
Quote from: Blitzer666 on September 25, 2019, 11:41:20 AM
Quote from: Nixer on September 24, 2019, 10:07:13 AM
Isn't Bruce Prickinson a big pro-Brexit head?

And???
Boss of wetherspoons is too, but it won't stop plenty of metallers getting their pre gig £2 pints!!
T**t.

It would be a bit insensitive for him to run around waiving what is a big symbol of hate and oppression to millions of people all over the world in light of that ever more likely hard border now wouldn't it?
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Blitzer666 on September 25, 2019, 12:54:07 PM
Quote from: Nixer on September 25, 2019, 12:25:28 PM
Quote from: Blitzer666 on September 25, 2019, 11:41:20 AM
Quote from: Nixer on September 24, 2019, 10:07:13 AM
Isn't Bruce Prickinson a big pro-Brexit head?

And???
Boss of wetherspoons is too, but it won't stop plenty of metallers getting their pre gig £2 pints!!
T**t.

It would be a bit insensitive for him to run around waiving what is a big symbol of hate and oppression to millions of people all over the world in light of that ever more likely hard border now wouldn't it?


T**t
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Airneanach on September 25, 2019, 03:03:10 PM
Big time metal bands are so riddled with dodgy bastards that it's mental to give a toss about Bruce Dickinson being a Brexiter or waving his own countries flag around during a bit of panto storytelling with the lyrics.

Nice blokes, Iron Maiden.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Kunt 4 Life on September 25, 2019, 04:18:12 PM
Quote from: Cryptic Stench on September 25, 2019, 11:43:28 AM
QuoteAlestorm

I'd rather see Funeral for a Friend support again. Alestorm are a disease of a band.
I really enjoy Alestorm so would be very happy if they did.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Cryptic Stench on September 25, 2019, 04:30:25 PM
Jesus.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Giggles on September 25, 2019, 05:47:30 PM
Quote from: Nixer on September 24, 2019, 10:07:13 AM
Isn't Bruce Prickinson a big pro-Brexit head?

Is that why they're not playing down South again?  :laugh:
Saw them last year in Belfast, unreal gig!!
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Nixer on September 26, 2019, 09:26:57 AM
Quote from: Giggles on September 25, 2019, 05:47:30 PM
Quote from: Nixer on September 24, 2019, 10:07:13 AM
Isn't Bruce Prickinson a big pro-Brexit head?

Is that why they're not playing down South again?  :laugh:
Saw them last year in Belfast, unreal gig!!

Probably, Bruce hates free Ireland  :(
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Airneanach on September 26, 2019, 10:08:50 AM
I heard he used to go into video stores in the 90s and remove all the rental copies of Michael Collins.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Kunt 4 Life on September 26, 2019, 10:19:05 AM
Also at the 2005 gig in the RDS when Steves bass broke and he had to stall for time, him and Janic did a cover of 'would you like a pastie supper, Bobby Sands'
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: northside hoop on September 26, 2019, 10:24:53 AM
He flew the Rangers team to an away game in europe, say no more  ;)
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Juggz on September 26, 2019, 10:36:46 AM
For the first five years of their marriage, he insisted his wife Paddy only ate potatoes while he kept the fresh meat and vegetables for himself.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: stevie-0 on September 26, 2019, 11:43:25 AM
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Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Nixer on September 26, 2019, 11:44:43 AM

Anyone else wanna help me throw eggs at him in the National Stadium?
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Kunt 4 Life on September 26, 2019, 12:12:55 PM
Where the hens that laid them Protestant or Catholic?
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Airneanach on September 26, 2019, 01:16:20 PM
The working title of Powerslave was originally 'the Orange Album'.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Nixer on September 26, 2019, 03:30:05 PM
Quote from: Kunt 4 Life on September 26, 2019, 12:12:55 PM
Where the hens that laid them Protestant or Catholic?

My understanding is that the free range ones are the catholic eggs.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Kunt 4 Life on September 26, 2019, 05:02:30 PM
You're alright, Nixer 8)
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Kurt Cocaine on September 26, 2019, 08:45:33 PM
Quote from: Nixer on September 26, 2019, 03:30:05 PM
Quote from: Kunt 4 Life on September 26, 2019, 12:12:55 PM
Where the hens that laid them Protestant or Catholic?

My understanding is that the free range ones are the catholic eggs.
Hahahaha class  :laugh:
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: paulioreillo on September 27, 2019, 08:22:58 AM
Quote from: Rocky on September 25, 2019, 12:04:13 PM
Any word on ticket price for this? Belsonic usually cap all their ticket prices pretty low so fingers crossed this will be the same.

£55 according to Ticketmaster
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Kunt 4 Life on September 27, 2019, 08:34:16 AM
Then fees. Guessing be 60 at the end
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Kunt 4 Life on September 27, 2019, 09:08:31 AM
121 for 2 after fees
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Jiblet on September 30, 2019, 03:29:35 PM
My guess is that they have a new album done and these dates will be a slightly altered Legacy of the Beast set (like Phantom of the Opera in for Greater Good or somethin) with the new single thrown in. The new single will no doubt be a bit pish and totally unrepresentative of the album. They will probably play a few other European festivals and then release new album in Autumn 2020 with album tour starting Spring 2021.
No call for draggin this tour over 3 years though, especially when Nicko could turn to dust at any point.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: heyjoe on September 30, 2019, 04:40:15 PM
Quote from: Jiblet on September 30, 2019, 03:29:35 PM
No call for draggin this tour over 3 years though, especially when Nicko could turn to dust at any point.

They seem genuinely thrilled with the reception Legacy of the Beast is getting. Especially in the US where they've gradually rebuilt their audience from just 3 dates in 2008 to a full tour in 2019. Australia, New Zealand and Japan will all want to bring this tour over, maybe South Africa, India, Indonesia, others too. New album ready but a lot of the world still wants LOTB. Literally presenting their legacy.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Jiblet on September 30, 2019, 10:09:23 PM
Quote from: heyjoe on September 30, 2019, 04:40:15 PM
Quote from: Jiblet on September 30, 2019, 03:29:35 PM
No call for draggin this tour over 3 years though, especially when Nicko could turn to dust at any point.

New album ready but a lot of the world still wants LOTB. Literally presenting their legacy.

Aye I take yer point, it would be strange not to take this tour everywhere but its also strange that they would willingly sit on a new album for nearly 2 years, assuming they will hit the countries you mentioned in 2020 and release the album in 2021. This also assumes that there is an album already recorded but many fingers point that way.
Im greedy, Ive seen the tour twice and just want them to get the fuckin finger out and release new music te fuck, Australia etc can suck my fat one.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Cryptic Stench on September 30, 2019, 10:44:10 PM
Quoterelease new music te fuck,

Iron Maiden haven't released new music since 1988.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Jiblet on October 01, 2019, 07:51:30 AM
Quote from: Cryptic Stench on September 30, 2019, 10:44:10 PM
Quoterelease new music te fuck,

Iron Maiden haven't released new music since 1988.
Horse shit, they had  some faux Mesoamerican pan pipes on the last album. Boundaries were well pushed.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Kunt 4 Life on October 01, 2019, 08:56:58 AM
Quote from: Cryptic Stench on September 30, 2019, 10:44:10 PM
Quoterelease new music te fuck,

Iron Maiden haven't released new music since 1988.

1988? I'd say 1981.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Jiblet on October 01, 2019, 09:03:27 AM
Haven't been any use since Stratton left
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Cryptic Stench on October 01, 2019, 09:05:44 AM
Seriously though, does anyone get any value out of latterday Maiden records. I stuck Book of Souls on the other night, jesus it was painful - it became a test of endurance and stubborness to get to the end of it.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Nixer on October 01, 2019, 09:27:39 AM
Quote from: Cryptic Stench on October 01, 2019, 09:05:44 AM
Seriously though, does anyone get any value out of latterday Maiden records. I stuck Book of Souls on the other night, jesus it was painful - it became a test of endurance and stubborness to get to the end of it.

I agree Stenchy but you know what the Maiden mongos are like
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Trev on October 01, 2019, 09:31:28 AM
Quote from: Cryptic Stench on October 01, 2019, 09:05:44 AM
Seriously though, does anyone get any value out of latterday Maiden records. I stuck Book of Souls on the other night, jesus it was painful - it became a test of endurance and stubborness to get to the end of it.
I really like Dance of Death, would still give it a listen every now and then. Other than that there's a lot of individual songs I like but not a full album.

I honestly reckon if they got an outside producer in who told them to quit the fucking meandering intros, trim down most of the songs to 4 or 5 minutes, took the power away from Steve Harris, they could still knock out something worthwhile
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Nixer on October 01, 2019, 09:35:56 AM
Quote from: Trev on October 01, 2019, 09:31:28 AM
Quote from: Cryptic Stench on October 01, 2019, 09:05:44 AM
Seriously though, does anyone get any value out of latterday Maiden records. I stuck Book of Souls on the other night, jesus it was painful - it became a test of endurance and stubborness to get to the end of it.
I really like Dance of Death, would still give it a listen every now and then. Other than that there's a lot of individual songs I like but not a full album.

I honestly reckon if they got an outside producer in who told them to quit the fucking meandering intros, trim down most of the songs to 4 or 5 minutes, took the power away from Steve Harris, they could still knock out something worthwhile

Not without Dianno back in the fold they couldn't
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Carnage on October 01, 2019, 10:36:07 AM
Brave New World, Dance Of Death and The Final Frontier all get regular spins from me, all cracking albums IMO. AMOLAD'e appeal wore off pretty quickly, it just sounds awful, they really should have mastered it (looking forward to the remastered version landing, actually). The Book Of Souls is just too long, Empire Of The Clouds in particular (though I admire its ambition, rock operas can just fuck off). Both have good tracks though.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Cryptic Stench on October 01, 2019, 10:46:53 AM
Dance of Death is the worst out of that bunch lads. A farcical album dripping in pure cringe, the melody from Dance of Death itself is absolute comedy "and I danced and I pranced....." Shite album cover too.

Final Frontier has a few good tracks but mostly forgettable. Coming home is toe curling, and the Alchemist is Be Quick or Be Dead, it's the same fucking song lads and it wasn't great to begin with!

Brave is a good record alright, forgot about about that when making my initial statement .
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Trev on October 01, 2019, 11:15:06 AM
Yeah the title track is pretty muck, and I'll never understand how they signed off on cover art that hadn't even been finished. But Paschendale, Montsegur, Face in the Sand, Journeyman...all great songs for me
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Cryptic Stench on October 01, 2019, 11:23:59 AM
Couple of good ones mentioned but Journeyman is horrific as is Wildest Dreams, No More Lies etc etc.

Part of the problem with these records is Nickos drumming, it's become incredibly samey, fills in particular and use of cymbals. I'm starting to think they're using the same takes from earlier records.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Nixer on October 01, 2019, 11:54:17 AM
They haven't put out a solid album since No Prayer for the Dying
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: blessed1 on October 01, 2019, 01:04:20 PM
Quote from: Cryptic Stench on October 01, 2019, 09:05:44 AM
Seriously though, does anyone get any value out of latterday Maiden records. I stuck Book of Souls on the other night, jesus it was painful - it became a test of endurance and stubborness to get to the end of it.

No.I think the last decent thing they did was dance of death. Brave new world is definitely the best of the newer ones.in fact I think it's their most consistent album overall.
Nicky's drumming is fucking woeful these days. That shite he does with the closed hi hats is pathetic and sounds weak as piss.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Kunt 4 Life on October 01, 2019, 02:06:16 PM
Quote from: Nixer on October 01, 2019, 11:54:17 AM
They haven't put out a solid album since No Prayer for the Dying

That's a very weak album though.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Blitzer666 on October 01, 2019, 02:09:27 PM
Really is shite watching a band we all grew up on playing their best tunes, innit?
With a great stage show and Bruce sounding better than he's been in years.

T**ts

Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Blitzer666 on October 01, 2019, 02:10:35 PM
Quote from: Nixer on October 01, 2019, 11:54:17 AM
They haven't put out a solid album since No Prayer for the Dying

Go back and get yer limp biskit CD on after school.
T**t
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: blessed1 on October 01, 2019, 02:33:37 PM
Quote from: Blitzer666 on October 01, 2019, 02:10:35 PM
Quote from: Nixer on October 01, 2019, 11:54:17 AM
They haven't put out a solid album since No Prayer for the Dying

Go back and get yer limp biskit CD on after school.
T**t

Obviously doesn't know nixer
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Jiblet on October 01, 2019, 02:48:09 PM
Being a Maiden mongo myself, Ive thought that every album from Brave New World through to The Final Frontier has been the best they have ever done, upon release. After about 2 years that turns to thinking they are pish. Dance of Death and Final Frontier are only kept from bottom spot by Fear of the Dark. What a bag of wank that is. That said, Dance of Death has Paschendale and the title track, fuckin deadly tracks, cringy lyrics be damned.
The outlier is The Book of Souls. The fucker is too long, Ive only listened to it in full a handful of times. Some great stuff on there, like the last 4mins of The Red And The Black but I cant be fucked listening to 9mins of garbage to get there. Similar can be said of the title track.
Also some great stuff on AMOLAD but its about 20mins too long and by half way the production has given me a headache.
All that said, best band in the world.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Nixer on October 01, 2019, 02:58:06 PM
Quote from: Kunt 4 Life on October 01, 2019, 02:06:16 PM
Quote from: Nixer on October 01, 2019, 11:54:17 AM
They haven't put out a solid album since No Prayer for the Dying

That's a very weak album though.

Holy Smoke is my favorite pre-Dianno Maiden track
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Cryptic Stench on October 01, 2019, 03:03:41 PM
Lads Dance Of Death is Fear Of The Dark, lyrically the same fuckin thing. Musically the same too except Dance has the feel of an Irish jig.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Jiblet on October 01, 2019, 04:49:03 PM
Quote from: Cryptic Stench on October 01, 2019, 03:03:41 PM
Lads Dance Of Death is Fear Of The Dark, lyrically the same fuckin thing. Musically the same too except Dance has the feel of an Irish jig.
Shock horror, 40 year old metal band has a formula.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Cryptic Stench on October 01, 2019, 05:01:41 PM
Good man. I'm saying Maiden seem to get a pass for releasing the same record over and over.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Kunt 4 Life on October 01, 2019, 05:59:58 PM
To be fair, ACDC have being doing it twice as long and half as good.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: blessed1 on October 01, 2019, 06:17:56 PM
Quote from: Cryptic Stench on October 01, 2019, 05:01:41 PM
Good man. I'm saying Maiden seem to get a pass for releasing the same record over and over.

To be honest I don't think people really care about the records they release these days. It's all about the live show.which they still deliver. I don't think any bands who have over 10 albums to their name really have anything new to offer.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Jiblet on October 01, 2019, 06:19:26 PM
Quote from: Cryptic Stench on October 01, 2019, 05:01:41 PM
Good man. I'm saying Maiden seem to get a pass for releasing the same record over and over.
Only windin. Il admit, I probably do give Maiden a pass where I wouldn't with other bands but I'm not deaf. I near kicked the cd player by the time the 5th quiet intro appeared on AMOLAD.
In terms of FOTD/DOD, I would never say the two songs are the same, the two have very different atmospheres to me and the similarity wouldn't occur to me but havin thought about it, I see where you are comin from in terms of structure and loose lyrical concept (ill shit at night) but to me they dont sound the same.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Carnage on October 01, 2019, 11:06:11 PM
Quote from: Jiblet on October 01, 2019, 02:48:09 PMDance of Death and Final Frontier are only kept from bottom spot by Fear of the Dark.

Ah jaysus, come on now. Bad as it is (and it is a poor Maiden album), it's still the best of the '90s albums, or at least the least shite. Their bottom four would be FOTD, TXF, NPFTD & V XI in that order, to put any Maiden album below Virtual XI is just madness, and No Prayer isn't much better. Fucking pub rock shite, Tailgunner aside. Dance Of Death is a step above any and all of those.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Kunt 4 Life on October 01, 2019, 11:21:12 PM
Fear of the Dark is a woeful album dispute having  several amazing tunes. No prayer, while having nothing that tops the best of FOTD, is more consistent.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Carnage on October 01, 2019, 11:27:42 PM
Consistently poor, though. Pub fucking rock, from the band that gave us The Number Of The Beast, Powerslave and Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son.

It didn't end there, obviously. There are still traces of it on The Book Of Souls (the verses of Speed Of Light are woeful) and even Brave New World has its moments, but at least it's kept to a minimum these days.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Jiblet on October 02, 2019, 07:57:46 AM
Quote from: Carnage on October 01, 2019, 11:06:11 PM
Quote from: Jiblet on October 01, 2019, 02:48:09 PMDance of Death and Final Frontier are only kept from bottom spot by Fear of the Dark.

Ah jaysus, come on now. Bad as it is (and it is a poor Maiden album), it's still the best of the '90s albums, or at least the least shite. Their bottom four would be FOTD, TXF, NPFTD & V XI in that order, to put any Maiden album below Virtual XI is just madness, and No Prayer isn't much better. Fucking pub rock shite, Tailgunner aside. Dance Of Death is a step above any and all of those.
Not a bit, FOTD is goat, more pub rock than No Prayer, in my opinion. At least theres some metal on No Prayer, FOTD is more rock than anythin else they have done.
VXI has shit production, lifeless drummin, poor lyrics and poor vocals. However, I hear a nugget of quality in most of the songs. DOD may have a better sound and a better line up but by god it has so many moment that I cant stand, a lot of them down to Bruce's delivery. Songs like Gates of Tomorrow, New Frontier, Wildest Dreams, total filler , No More Lies must be Steves dullest long song, Journeyman was unnecessary and the worst of all, Age of Innocence, probably the worst song they have ever done. Only FOTD has anything that can compete.
I appreciate the experimentation on TFF but I just dont think it worked. Isle of Avalon and Starblind have some great sections but I just dont think they work overall.
So I stick by it. The Maiden albums I listen to least are FOTD, DOD and TFF. VXI may find itself in the bottom 3 from time to time but FOTD will never be out of it.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Juggz on October 02, 2019, 08:48:08 AM
Quote from: Jiblet on October 02, 2019, 07:57:46 AMshit production, lifeless drummin, poor lyrics
This just about sums up the last 30 years of Maiden. The last production with any kind of pep to it was SSOASS. It's funny to hear lads bitching about Gers' guitar being turned down when not soloing, because that's how the albums are mixed. For a band with three guitars, there is fuck all rhythm guitar in any album since the 80's and the drums have sounded unfailingly lifeless and dull since then too. Harris shouldn't be allowed in the Control Room, he's a catastrophe behind the desk. Their recent success is despite his cloth ear.

I remember hearing them play Man on the Edge live on Ray Cokes' show on MTV shortly after the X Factor album came out. I had heard the album and it was fucking horrible sounding (and still is) but, unshackled by Harris turning the guitars down, the mix had loud and powerful guitars and it transformed the song into something pleasant. Everything from NPFTD on deserves a remix, there might even be a good album or two hiding in there.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Cryptic Stench on October 02, 2019, 09:04:55 AM
QuoteBruce's delivery

Bruce doesn't really give a fuck. He has tracked the vocals for most of the Maiden albums since he's returned in about a weekend.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Paul keohane on October 02, 2019, 11:38:30 AM
Virtual X was released 24 years ago today,thats about all i can contribute to this thread.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: blessed1 on October 02, 2019, 12:32:10 PM
Quote from: Paul keohane on October 02, 2019, 11:38:30 AM
Virtual X was released 24 years ago today,thats about all i can contribute to this thread.

Wow I can remember my brother coming home with this on the day it was released.
I still think it's an ok album.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Carnage on October 02, 2019, 12:51:14 PM
The X Factor, you mean. Despite the vocals clearly not being up to scratch, it's got some decent tracks on it.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Paul keohane on October 02, 2019, 01:19:21 PM
Sorry yeah,
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Paul keohane on October 02, 2019, 01:23:51 PM
I was a maiden fan when i first started to get i to metal,but a band i moved on from fast as i discovered other heavy stuff,
90s Maiden  went over my head.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Blitzer666 on October 02, 2019, 08:38:47 PM
Quote from: Paul keohane on October 02, 2019, 01:23:51 PM
I was a maiden fan when i first started to get i to metal,but a band i moved on from fast as i discovered other heavy stuff,
90s Maiden  went over my head.

Cool story bro
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: leatherface on October 03, 2019, 11:24:39 AM
Quote from: Blitzer666 on October 02, 2019, 08:38:47 PM
Quote from: Paul keohane on October 02, 2019, 01:23:51 PM
I was a maiden fan when i first started to get i to metal,but a band i moved on from fast as i discovered other heavy stuff,
90s Maiden  went over my head.

Cool story bro

It is pretty cool. I also have the same story.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Blitzer666 on October 04, 2019, 09:36:59 AM
Quote from: leatherface on October 03, 2019, 11:24:39 AM
Quote from: Blitzer666 on October 02, 2019, 08:38:47 PM
Quote from: Paul keohane on October 02, 2019, 01:23:51 PM
I was a maiden fan when i first started to get i to metal,but a band i moved on from fast as i discovered other heavy stuff,
90s Maiden  went over my head.

Cool story bro

It is pretty cool. I also have the same story.

5 years time you'll be one of them guys that says 'hey man, I used to like heavy metal too'.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: BobbyAxelrod on October 12, 2019, 07:11:54 PM
Quote from: Nixer on October 01, 2019, 02:58:06 PM
Quote from: Kunt 4 Life on October 01, 2019, 02:06:16 PM
Quote from: Nixer on October 01, 2019, 11:54:17 AM
They haven't put out a solid album since No Prayer for the Dying

That's a very weak album though.

Holy Smoke is my favorite pre-Dianno Maiden track

I feckin love that whole album. It is slightly dodgy, but has a nice bargain bin Maiden feel to it.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: leatherface on October 15, 2019, 09:06:08 AM
Quote from: Blitzer666 on October 04, 2019, 09:36:59 AM
Quote from: leatherface on October 03, 2019, 11:24:39 AM
Quote from: Blitzer666 on October 02, 2019, 08:38:47 PM
Quote from: Paul keohane on October 02, 2019, 01:23:51 PM
I was a maiden fan when i first started to get i to metal,but a band i moved on from fast as i discovered other heavy stuff,
90s Maiden  went over my head.

Cool story bro

It is pretty cool. I also have the same story.

5 years time you'll be one of them guys that says 'hey man, I used to like heavy metal too'.

Not sure about that bud, just don't like the post 80s Maiden material, that's all. Nothing to see here, move on etc.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Floss on November 01, 2019, 03:32:17 PM
So it looks like Maiden has finishe a leg in South America and are now heading to Aus/NZ in the new year. Meanwhile Harris is heading out with his own band, and the Belfast / Donnington gigs are still kinda standalone oddities.  No new album talk. I wonder if the Bfast and Don gigs will be "Legacy" gigs, or are they about to announce the recently rumored paris-recorded new album and tour.... hmmm
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Kunt 4 Life on November 01, 2019, 08:10:35 PM
I do wonder if it's going to be 100% the same setlist for Belfast as it was last year. Shouldn't complain really but I hope at the very least there is two or so tracks different.
Would a new track be possible?
Any word on who is likely to be added to the rest of the card?
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Don Gately on November 01, 2019, 11:29:51 PM
I'll see what I can do.

No comment on support I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Kunt 4 Life on November 02, 2019, 09:17:22 AM
Much appreciated.  8)
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Kunt 4 Life on November 07, 2019, 03:28:58 PM
Looking at the new tour dates I'm guessing it could be Airbourne or Lord of the Lost.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Rocky on December 13, 2019, 01:57:57 PM
Alter Bridge, Airbourne & Tempt announced as support.

Great line up!
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: celestinebabayaro on December 13, 2019, 02:52:27 PM
It's a lineup most maiden fans would enjoy but it's still 3 shite bands all the same.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Nixer on December 13, 2019, 02:54:53 PM

Quote from: celestinebabayaro on December 13, 2019, 02:52:27 PM
It's a lineup most maiden fans would enjoy but it's still 3 shite bands all the same.

4 shite bands*
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Kurt Cocaine on December 13, 2019, 03:35:26 PM
Hahaha...  :laugh:
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Blitzer666 on December 13, 2019, 06:11:32 PM
Hell of a lot better than the slash line up last year
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Carnage on December 13, 2019, 07:44:31 PM
Never heard of Tempt but Alter Bridge and Airbourne are quite awful.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Blitzer666 on May 07, 2020, 04:00:08 PM
And it's gone.... Not rescheduled either!! Bloody typical. Ah well, no shitty pints of tennents that day for me then!!
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Nixer on May 07, 2020, 06:58:16 PM
Quote from: Blitzer666 on May 07, 2020, 04:00:08 PM
And it's gone.... Not rescheduled either!! Bloody typical. Ah well, no shitty pints of tennents that day for me then!!
Quote from: Blitzer666 on May 07, 2020, 04:00:08 PM
And it's gone.... Not rescheduled either!! Bloody typical. Ah well, no shitty pints of tennents that day for me then!!

The Coronavirus was Jesus's way of punishing everyone for buying tickets to watch a prick swing his Union Jack in the holy land. 
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Blitzer666 on May 07, 2020, 08:51:54 PM
Doubtful as it's only called union jack when it's flying at sea. Twat
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Kunt 4 Life on May 07, 2020, 09:13:23 PM
Maybe they'll add a few new dates sometime next year and Belfast there.

You know Bruce, he'll be waving the Union flag and singing 'you want a pastie supper, Bobby Sands' dedicated to Nixer.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Kunt 4 Life on May 14, 2020, 11:30:53 PM
Got the refund in my account. 121 quid. Is that the booking fees returned as well? Can't remember how much it cost after ticketcunt fees.
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Uinsion on May 15, 2020, 10:07:01 AM
Order total: £60.50 (incl. fees)
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Kunt 4 Life on May 15, 2020, 12:49:58 PM
Happy days.  :abbath:

Since I bought them through topcashback, I'm up 70p
Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Uinsion on May 15, 2020, 11:03:57 PM
01 Oct 19    GBP/60.50/0.884373          0.00
01 Oct 19    POS TICKETMASTER                    68.41

12 May 20    GBP/60.50/0.877702          0.00
12 May 20    POS TICKETMASTER               68.93

up 52 cents, because of exchange rate, should have bought a bucketful of tickets  :laugh: :laugh:


Title: Re: Maiden at Belsonic 2020
Post by: Kunt 4 Life on June 15, 2020, 05:27:15 PM
And today would have been the day. And what a lovely day it is right now.