Quote from: open face surgery on October 25, 2022, 10:23:00 AMYa, same as that. Drink has, by far, the worst after effects.

I had to give it up. Between medication I'm on and being 40 I couldn't handle the soul destroying mornings after anymore.

Quote from: open face surgery on October 25, 2022, 10:23:00 AM
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on October 25, 2022, 12:33:03 AMNot a fan, but have to say I've always found coke to be one of the "cleanest" come-down drugs. Speed, pills, even good quality molly can throw you a deeply unpleasant day or two after, but never once found that with coke.

Ya, same as that. Drink has, by far, the worst after effects. I've taken coke sober countless times and have had no comedown or afters.

Speed is generally an anxiety hangover. Pills and MD give me zaps for days after. Presumably from doing the dog on both when I was younger.

What's the fuckin story with those zaps by the way? I don't remember having those at all as a younger chap but I'd get them now. I think with the speed it's the straight up lack of sleep and the drink immunity that does the trick there.

Quote from: Ollkiller on October 24, 2022, 11:21:37 PM
Quote from: astfgyl on October 24, 2022, 01:51:24 PMI can't listen to lads on the coke they're a pain in the hole the way they think they're so great just for throwing a few lines up their noses

Fucking awful drug. Next day is torture. Thankfully I did it a few times many years ago ago and decided it wasn't for me. Being around people who are on it when you're not is painful.

I don't mind the buzz off it in itself that much but the price ensured I never really got into it. As mentioned above as well it's very rare to get anything approaching good quality either. And I stand by saying it makes lads think they're great simply because they're taking it, contrasting with mdma or pills where people think everyone and everything is great. Well until that point in the morning where I think I never want to see anyone or remember anything I've ever said ever again!

I always drink with anything I do as well so I dunno what the comedowns are like by themselves really. Haven't long left at it all anyway, the mind and the flesh and all that

That's one thing I never understood about coke. Why is it so expensive when it doesn't even get you that high?
Mdma should be the expensive one if you ask me!

MDMA is cheaper to produce and travels a lot less to get to you.

Ah right, never thought of that. Makes sense now that you mention it lol

Wish I could make my own

Quote from: astfgyl on October 25, 2022, 05:17:42 PM
Quote from: open face surgery on October 25, 2022, 10:23:00 AM
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on October 25, 2022, 12:33:03 AMNot a fan, but have to say I've always found coke to be one of the "cleanest" come-down drugs. Speed, pills, even good quality molly can throw you a deeply unpleasant day or two after, but never once found that with coke.

Ya, same as that. Drink has, by far, the worst after effects. I've taken coke sober countless times and have had no comedown or afters.

Speed is generally an anxiety hangover. Pills and MD give me zaps for days after. Presumably from doing the dog on both when I was younger.

What's the fuckin story with those zaps by the way? I don't remember having those at all as a younger chap but I'd get them now. I think with the speed it's the straight up lack of sleep and the drink immunity that does the trick there.

I'd imagine it's the receptors in your brain trying to recover. They weren't as fried when we were younger.

Probably right there. I'm not keen on it whatever is the cause.

Anyone remember the horror of the legal highs? Had many a harrowing few days from those things. Bzp is awful tack

The Guardian has an article today on slow cookers and how to harness their money/energy saving powers - low-cost meals and little electricity.

Buying tougher (cheaper) cuts of meat is part of the advice. I agree with this entirely. Slow cook fatty off-cuts of beef/pork/lamb and it will yield you magnificent results in stews/curries/ragus after a day of being rendered.

However - The Guardian's article instead suggests that one should use 2 pheasant joints...  :laugh:


Slow cooker is a master job when I remember to turn it on in time. May head down now for the bit of pheasant for this evening

Quote from: astfgyl on October 26, 2022, 09:32:06 AMProbably right there. I'm not keen on it whatever is the cause.

Anyone remember the horror of the legal highs? Had many a harrowing few days from those things. Bzp is awful tack

Only did the legal highs once and felt like had drank 20 cans of red bull. Next day was torture. Fuck that.

Incidentally at one the sieges in bakers place everyone was openly taking legal highs, and I was there openly taking my savage illegal pills. That was the only upside to legal highs.

Quote from: Ollkiller on October 26, 2022, 04:17:13 PM
Quote from: astfgyl on October 26, 2022, 09:32:06 AMProbably right there. I'm not keen on it whatever is the cause.

Anyone remember the horror of the legal highs? Had many a harrowing few days from those things. Bzp is awful tack

Only did the legal highs once and felt like had drank 20 cans of red bull. Next day was torture. Fuck that.

Incidentally at one the sieges in bakers place everyone was openly taking legal highs, and I was there openly taking my savage illegal pills. That was the only upside to legal highs.

Good description of the buzz there. Took a couple together after being warned not to before and it culminated with me lying on the ground outside Penney's on Parnell Street after being awake for over 3 days. Couldn't stand for a minute. Think I was codded into it by the picture of a couple of decent looking women on the packet. Got that other methadrone shit once too, 14 hours straight of the hardest possible peak. Never again.

Those legal highs were disgusting.
I remember the first time I tried 2ci and I stupidly snorted the stuff.
The burn was so bad for about 10 mins I couldn't even open my eyes.
Then when it passed and I could open them again I was tripping so hard and hallucinating like mad.
Weird stuff altogether.
It made everything taste like absolute shit as well.

2ci wasn't and isn't legal. Both that and 2cb are great. The burn of the former is indeed insane. Methadrone was fuckin horrible shite altogether and the whole city stank ofnit at one point. Ugh.