Game of Thrones - New Episodes Discussion (SPOILERS)

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Provided said knight had either obsidian or Valerian steel weapons!

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Speaking of Sam.. he seemed to revert back Sam of season 1.
Literally running from everything and crying on the pile of bodies. I thought he had progressed a little bit or would just stay in the crypt below.
John running past him, looking at him laying there crying "muppet" 

On the crypt.. I was really hoping to see a headless ned stark appear and attack Sansa... Tyrion killing him. Would have been great imo! 

I don't keep up to date on these things but I would assume they are already thinking of doing a prequel to the whole thing. Rise of the madking and a lot of the stuff we saw in brans visions with the 3 eyed raven. Leading up to Robert coming to Winterfell

Although I'm told that there's someone taking over in a position with HBO who's all about quantity and not quality when it comes to shows being produced. So it might not fair out so well 

[Pedrito]

The show gone full feminist too I noticed. Women in all positions of power. Women doing all the major defending, fighting and killing. Pfff a sign of the times I suppose

Eh women have always been in positions of power and fighting in Game of Thrones. And more power to it.

Yeah I think you're taking more from what I'm saying than I meant. The strong female thing is being done across the movie and tv world now, to death some would say. I loved the strength of the women in the books. It has been argued, by some, that it's pushing that angle a lot now, at the expense of amazing characters like Tyrion who have been relegated to the crypt, Jon Snow who did fucking nothing in the last episode, yet we get a tiny Daenerys, wielding a sword really badly, it looked awful. Massive fan of Cersei, Sansa, Arya, Brienne and Daenerys but I just hope it doesn't go full fem power to the detriment of the fantastic male characters in the series.

[Ollkiller]

The show gone full feminist too I noticed. Women in all positions of power. Women doing all the major defending, fighting and killing. Pfff a sign of the times I suppose

Eh women have always been in positions of power and fighting in Game of Thrones. And more power to it.

Yeah I think you're taking more from what I'm saying than I meant. The strong female thing is being done across the movie and tv world now, to death some would say. I loved the strength of the women in the books. It has been argued, by some, that it's pushing that angle a lot now, at the expense of amazing characters like Tyrion who have been relegated to the crypt, Jon Snow who did fucking nothing in the last episode, yet we get a tiny Daenerys, wielding a sword really badly, it looked awful. Massive fan of Cersei, Sansa, Arya, Brienne and Daenerys but I just hope it doesn't go full fem power to the detriment of the fantastic male characters in the series.

Jon Snow might have done nothing but Jorah Mormont, Clegane, Beric and the unsullied more than made up for it.  I don't think you have anything to worry about.

[Pedrito]

Not worried at all. Would be great to see some more boobies too

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

we get a tiny Daenerys, wielding a sword really badly, it looked awful.

In terms of being afraid of feminist apologetics taking over the narrative, I don't get the problem here. Her dragon took off and left her alone in a hand to hand combat situation she's absolutely not equipped for,she grabbed a weapon, but was ultimately saved by a knight in shining armour. What would have been silly was if she was all of a sudden a dab hand with a sword. So, don't follow this critique at all. Tyrion surely has a huge role left to play, both for Daenerys and the story in general, I'd presume that's why he was put in safety, rather than any pro-women positive discrimination side-lining.

[Born of Fire]

Tyrion surely has a huge role left to play, both for Daenerys and the story in general, I'd presume that's why he was put in safety, rather than any pro-women positive discrimination side-lining.

I could see Tyrion sacrificing his life to save Sansa, they seemed to be focusing on an emotional connection between them in their dialogue in the last episode.

[Pedrito]

Would love to see Tyrion do a number on everyone and finally sit on the Iron Throne. He is by far the best character in the books but has been sidelined for some strange reason in the last few seasons. A Machiavellian twist to the whole thing would be truly epic and faithful to the fantastic twists of earlier seasons.

[ochoill]

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/tv-radio-web/where-did-arya-jump-from-the-game-of-thrones-battle-was-riddled-with-problems-1.3876301?mode=amp

This says it all

Will read the rest of that shortly but have to hit the "where did Arya jump from?" point here.  This isn't the only article I've seen complaining about this.  Was the idea not when she was talking to Melisandra that she would take the face of a wight to get close enough?  That's what I had assumed anyway, rather than leaping across the entirety of them.

I enjoyed the episode, few small gripes but nothing major.  Mostly the severe plot armour on everyone but I suppose they're needed to tie up the ending somehow, or die somewhere else.

[Yolo Swaggins]

Dunno if tyrion has been sidelined in the last few seasons tbh, I thought he was the star of the scenes he was in last season. The breakdown of trust between him and Danyaerys was handled fantastically. I loved how he consciously decided to make the switch from advising her to out and out manipulation to get her to do what's right at the cost of his own reputation. Particularly evident in the scenes on dragonstone where he was "advising" on how to convince cersei the threat was real. Tyrions plan was never to convince cersei he knew it was a fools errand, rather to sway Dany to help John. Loved the way the trust broke down between them gradually until he made a conscious decision to manipulate.
The scene where cersei announces to help with the entire lannister forces rather than a mere truce was class too. She saw through Tyrions manipulation and threw him under the bus fantastically. She knew if she announced that she was sending an army that it would quickly become evident that she was a liar, putting Tyrions place of confidence with the Queen at risk, forcing him to own his failures or admit manipulation.
I'm meandering a tad but I can't wait to see how that plays out this season.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Saw it suggested today that Arya probably lost less blood in episode 3 than 2 

[Pedrito]

You filthy animal 

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Saw it suggested today that Arya probably lost less blood in episode 3 than 2 

ah hayoooour 

[Pedrito]

Hmmm..bit of a.comedown that new episode. Setting it up though. Great to see that bird beheaded..useless character and useless actress. A fine young wan in fairness though.

Edit: can't take anything away from the acting, the scenes are beautiful, it's moving along towards where it needs to go, but that said, some of the writing in this episode was woeful. The last ep had holes in it but you could get past it. Tyrion standing helpless in front of the castle and they don't shoot him yet kill Missandei. The stupid way the dragon dies. That whole Bronn scene. Daenerys being reduced to almost a child with Jon, and the completely unconvincing 'love' between them. Jaime finally getting what he wants and then pulling the plug after 2 rides...was she that bad in the sack? They spent seasons leading up to that and it's gone as soon as it arrives.

I think we're in the endgame now and it's best the whole thing finishes up asap. I'm still enjoying it but we're a million light years away from the quality of previous seasons. It all feels very rushed and so many scenes make so little sense.

Am I alone in thinking this?

[Circlepit]

Rushed is not the word! Euron takes out a dragon, smashes a few ships, fucks off , captures yerwan all off camera and home in time for tea.
Unsullied arrive in kings landing double time then and Jon Snow is still not there.
Why didn't he even give the wolf a rub???
And to top it off boom another dragon gone.
And Tyrion not nailed to the ground with arrows!!!!!!