So watched it again with a few wines to cool me down and it was a tonne better. I think each episode needs 2 watches now at this stage to process things a bit more. Dany losing the rag and rightly so. The final scene made a lot more sense in terms of the rules of war. Also, Dany was advised by Sansa not to go south too quickly. She did so snd paid the price. She's gotten way too emotional and they're right to question her. I reckon Varys might get a knife in the back for treason..let's see.

Quote from: The Butcher on May 08, 2019, 12:17:03 PM
The only reasoning behind not killing them all there and then was that Cersei wants Dany to go all mad queen and burn Kings Landing down. She has nothing to live for now (I expect she had a miscarriage). So even if Cersei loses, Dany will be hated. That's the only logic I can come up with for that moment.

Yeah, that makes sense. Cersei must be harbouring one hell of a grudge towards her own people since the Walk of Shame, so it figures that she views them as completely expendable. Still though, the last two episodes have been so rushed that they have robbed the series of the sense of epicness and scale which seemed to define the earlier episodes. What's even more puzzling is that the preceding two episodes were complete non-events.

Also reckon Drogon will appear with dragonglass armor next episode. With all these hints I expect her to go full on mad queen and obliterate Kings Landing.

I reckon it'll be Jaime who offs Cercei.

King Slayer becomes Queen Slayer.

I think so too. What about Cersei's prophecy? She was told she would die by the hand of her younger brother. She always thought it would be Tyrion.... but it could be Jaime because technically she was born first.


Nearly pooed in my pants watching it. Lost for words. Haven't even thought how it fits into the grand scheme of things but flip me that was tough going and enjoyable at the same time. Needs a bit of processing. Mad how Dany has turned out in such a short space of time. I suppose that's what happens when you lose everything and everyone that means anything to you. Loco  :abbath:

Processing done. I just don't know what to make of much of it anymore. Dany has become something that she never really showed signs of. It makes very little sense to me any of it. Did I enjoy the spectacle..yes! But I also enjoyed The Phantom Menace. Really interested to see what others think. 

Some crazy goings on, alright.

Special effects were the worst yet, too. The Dragon fire parts, anyway. Looked like something the Sci-fi Channel would churn out.

I thought the cinematography was great, the parts where the camera was following characters' movements anyway. You'd get bored of watching the dragon breathe fire for so much of it though.  In fact, all that gowling around turned into a bit of a plod in the end and detracted from Cleganebowl. Jaime and Cersei was anticlimactic too.

They've really rushed the Dany-gone-bad thing. Completely goes against the type of character they built her up to be. Squeezing in the line about having to rule by fear simply doesn't cut it for such a drastic change. I'll miss Varys but his scheming will play out in the last ep, I'd say.

Jasus I need to go lay down after that  ???

Vary's... had almost nothing in the show for so long then BANG he's dead in the blink of an eye. Very anticlimactic tbh

Then it was like someone said 'GO' and the turbo boost kicked in!  :-X

The whole thing was difficult to watch, very brutal and how Dany's madness just infected nearly everyone below her. I was hoping Snow would stab that worm cunt in the face.

Not lyin.. that image of the hound and the mountain on the steps with the dragon flying over head looked so immense i was there in the room myself goin CLEGAAANNEEBOOOOWWLL  :abbath: :abbath: :abbath:
Ah he smashed that little cunt so bad at the start I was howlin  :laugh:
I did guess some time back that if they eventually did fight that the hound would drag him in to fire of some sort. Wasn't far off tbh!

The bit with Euron and Jamie was a bit shitty tbh. It felt very filler

The scene when Cersei see's Jamie was really good. Although the outcome was as stated above, a bit underwhelming.

Again the writers seem to have made Arya a main focus giving her a lot of screen time. The whole end bit with the horse was strange unless someone can link this in to something previously stated/mentioned/lore related and a white horse.

Are they going to have her wear a Jon Snow mask, give the mad wan a bit of length and then give her another stabbin (the other kind) !!!


Also the trailer that was put out for this episode was clearly a different cut. When Euron see's the dragon in the trailer his reaction was like he'd seen something new and/or more frightening. Which is why people were probably thinking the dragon would have armor or there were suddenly more dragons etc
In the episode he has a much more relaxed/expected reaction when it appears. 

#87 May 13, 2019, 09:13:31 PM Last Edit: May 13, 2019, 09:19:06 PM by Pedrito
Had a chat with a friend and he made a very good point that in the book re: Dany, we had both agreed many years ago that we weren't fans and often I've wanted her to kick the bucket in the series. So the story seems.to have turned out in a way that in the books would make sense. It just doesn't make any sense in terms of the flow of the tv series.

Again, I enjoyed it a lot. I really enjoyed the Phantom Menace. Do they make sense in terms of overall story arcs etc..absolutely not, but fuck it, it is what it is. I think the major gripe most people have is timing and storylines that end up nowhere. It could have ended a million ways in fairness though. I will say though, that the Tyrion and Jon storylines are making less and less sense. Arya is taking up a lot of screen time, and while I really like her character, I'm just not sure why she has become so prominent this season. Hopefully it all makes sense in the final episode, though if iy's true to the whole concept of GOT, there shouldn't really be a nice happy ending and lots of loose ends anyway.

I'd love if somehow Cersei crawled out of that rubble. I don't think it will happen but it would provide a much needed twist to a lot of very obvious storytelling

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 Ah for fuck sake. This show is turning into Lost!!!! Such great promise and we just get this. After all the going on she made shit of the throne!
All the intrigue is gone. It's boom wallop Rambo 4 style. That's nice too but you can tell from miles off that the book would never have gone so bananas.  :abbath: :abbath:

Man I really want to enjoy it, and to a certain extent I am just for the spectacle, but man they've seriously fucked this show up.

I read earlier that HBO actually wanted to keep it going for 2-3 more seasons, which would have been the way to do it, but the showrunners have made a deal to do a Star Wars movie so they obviously just want to wrap it up as quickly as possible.

Did I see that right or did they really have Arya get torched by a dragon and walk away from it  :laugh:.