Game of Thrones - New Episodes Discussion (SPOILERS)

[Giggles]

Mixed feelings about the episode. I enjoyed the celebratory drinking craic at the start. Wasn't happy about how the dragon died; The first 2 arrows fired sink into the dragons chest, the 3rd through the neck... and then 30 odd shots miss as she's flying directly towards them. And as already mentioned, why didn't Cersei kill Tyrion? She fucking hates him.
I dislike Greyworm, such a boring looking cunt, and the relationship between him and Missandei seems utterly pointless. Jaime's a little bitch.

It's nice to see Varys get a bit more spotlight, himself and Littlefinger have spun a lot of webs since season 1. I hope Danerys dies soon.
From Winterfell to Kings Landing in less than half an hour - some job!

Looking forward to hopefully seeing the Hound kill his brother and Arya kill Cersei. Be funny if Gendry ended up becoming King.

[The Heretic]

I reckon Danerys has a few more Dragons tucked away...

[DeletedUsermNqGIiIuGy]

Kinda starting to get the feeling they realized they cut it to short with the amount of episodes despite them being longer individually there's still so much to cover over 10 years worth of episodes in one season with the amount of story lines going on etc.

Yer man proposing to Aarya .. like where did that come from. Turned to a lord then insta-cucked from a single ride (must have given him backdoor access)

Varys  finally starting to pop back out again. I assume he'll end up being beside whomever ends on the throne as he has a long history beside the iron throne.

John's character seems to be getting more pathetic per episode. Mad for his aunty's dragon box but most signs point to him being 'the one' #neo

I've a strong feeling Vary's is saying shit to Danny. When she got up to leave the table after getting mad paranoid he noticed it and followed. I'm fairly sure Danny is on the way out and he's probably speaking in her ear telling her to do the silly shit she's doing in order for the others to go against her. She's down to one dragon now.
Also the clip for the next episode that was shown, I've a feeling that they put armor of some sort on the dragon to help it against those arrows.

All in all Danny has fucked up royally in these episodes. She went on the attack and fucked the battle against the night king up instead of sticking to the plan. She wouldn't listen to anyone when it came to going to Cersei and it was pretty obvious Cersei was going to act the bollox and kill 'Miss Andy' regardless of the outcome to gode Danny into attacking.
Also Im fairly certain it was Vary's who told Danny to go to John's room and try get him to keep his mouth shut with Vary's knowing that he wouldn't just to create more shit between them.

Also hilarious that like most of the main characters already know about john.. shittiest secret keepers ever hah

[John Kimble]

An absolutely bollocks episode in fairness. It's obvious there are no "rules of engagement" as far as Cersei is concerned, so as mentioned, why didn't her archers wipe out Tyrion, and the rest for that matter, while she had a chance? Or why didn't Missandei, knowing she was about to die, just grab Cersei and launch herself off the parapet? Most of all, why instead of approaching Euron's fleet head-on, didn't Dany approach them from the rear and just burn the fuck out of them? Normally I'd be dead against picking holes in a fantasy series but fuck me, some absolute headscratchers there.

[Circlepit]

Exactly!!! I have never driven a big fuck off sail boat but I reckon a dragon could fly around the back of them quicker than a fleet of ships could turn around especially as they were in a channel. I've never flown a dragon either but I'd like to think they would decide to go full beserker mode if somebody was firing shit at them.
I can't believe how much I am debating the pros and cons of a tv show!

[The Butcher]

Agree with all the above - one of the weakest episodes to date. You can see since last Season they really want to wrap it up. How did Dany not spot those ships from above?!  Or how all of them forgot about the royal fleet...esp considering they all knew the Greyjoy fleet was ambushed by them previously

[Emphyrio]

Again, ye have mentioned all the plot holes above. And agreed that it's very rushed feeling. The Bronn scene didn't feel natural, totally shoehorned in. And Varys has turned tack completely out of the blue.

It was always gonna be a come down after the previous ep but it was a bit shambolic, really. Aside from the ludicrous Greyjoy/dragon scene, and the obvious flaws, at least it was a scene worth seeing and it was done well. I just think it could have been executed in a way that made more sense.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Yeah, pretty shite.

I've started to think though that Bran/the 3-eyed raven might actually be a shit-stirring creation of the children. Another way of defeating your enemy (once you've made a Night King who ended up turning against you as well, so back to the drawing board...) is to sew dissent among them and turn them on themselves. Maybe that's what the 3-eyed raven's given function was; to know all that's happening and use it to stir things up. The "now we have to contend with us" line got me thinking about it. That and all the other things, like Bran's utter absence of emotion, the link between the 3-eyed raven and the children, etc.

Probably won't be the case, but could fit.

[Emphyrio]

I wouldn't be expecting Brann to feature a whole lot from here on. The Three Eyes Raven was very much a background character, whose role was in dealing with the walkers. As Brann says, he pretty much lives in the past. I don't see him having anything to do with the future as an active participant.  I don't think it's a shit-stirring type of character. That whole thing is from an age where there was more magic, something that's coming the end of its life cycle.

[The Butcher]

And as already mentioned, why didn't Cersei kill Tyrion? She fucking hates him.

The only reasoning behind not killing them all there and then was that Cersei wants Dany to go all mad queen and burn Kings Landing down. She has nothing to live for now (I expect she had a miscarriage). So even if Cersei loses, Dany will be hated. That's the only logic I can come up with for that moment.

[Pedrito]

Yep, that's the idea. She says to leave the gates open during the episode. She wants to expose Dany as a mad queen and doesn't care who dies in the process. Looking forward to the next one, and hopefully it rights some of the crappy timing and scenes.

[Ollkiller]

Maybe I'm wrong but the reason for not killing Tyrion is he is Danys hand and they were at a parlay. That sort of thing is still frowned upon.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Yeah, I'd say it's simply that. Cersei wants Dany to look like the bad one. Sniping the opposition's negotiator would have defeated that purpose.

[DeletedUsermNqGIiIuGy]

Have to hand it to Lena Headey, she's bloody brilliant in the roll.

Regarding the Tyrion bit. How she acted came across similar to when Jamie was walking away and he thought she was going to get the mountain to kill him but she didn't in the end. I wonder if it was a case of her knowing she could but maybe under it all actually caring for Tyrion in some way. The whole Lannister family thing etc
Or like above was it her really wanting to kill him but knowing it wouldn't look good in the end as he was known and that situation ... unlike 'yer wan' who really no one inside the city knew or gave two fucks about!

I honestly don't have much faith that they can wrap this up in 2 episodes in the time frame of 2.5 hours.  I can see there being an ending but with a lot of shit left 'for the fans to talk about and decide' 

[Pedrito]

Tyrion would be the one to save her if it comes to it too. He's a soft touch