In two minds about this one.  In terms of spectacle, it was well ahead of any of the preceding shows. I don't think it necessarily pandered to audience expectations either, Cersei was given a fairly sudden and easy death all things considered when surely she warranted some form of public execution. The notion of the corrupting influence of power is nothing new, so while it's not surprising that Dany went full psycho (especially given her lineage), the transition from benevolent queen to her current incarnation feels a bit rushed. Like she's been through a fair bit of turmoil over the seasons, so I don't know why the death of Missandei and a bit of double-crossing would have tipped her over the edge. Yeah, can't stand that Greyworm clown and would have loved to see him get wiped out. So I guess Jon, or Arya perhaps, have to sort out Dany now.

Hell hath no fury, and all that... it's just they didn't adequately portray her sense of being scorned not only by Cersei, but also Jon, and ultimately the entire populace of Westeros for loving another. There should have been a bit more indications of smouldering psycho rage this season. The narrative elements to support it were there, but no manifestation.

Spectacular in terms of action, and I think Arya as reluctant but wise and just queen is perhaps being groomed by the show; the entire ending was to show her learning the horror that lurks beneath revenge.

#93 May 14, 2019, 09:59:47 AM Last Edit: May 14, 2019, 10:12:06 AM by Ollkiller
Did not like how Varys was just got rid of that quick. One of the most integral parts of the show. The interactions between himself and Tyrion have been the best thing about the tv show. And he nearly got Dany poisioned with the little serving girl but that may happen yet. And who have received his letters.

Have to say i was glued to my seat watching that hour of mayhem.  It didn't properly show Dany and her descent into madness but Dany has never been afraid of being a cold hearted killer. She has been cold and brutal to her numerous enemies on many occasions and knows Westeros has no love for her so it's fear all the way. Nothing like watching a Targaryen laying waste to everything.


So now it's Ayra or Jon to take her out but for some reason i don't think Jon is going to live.

Supposedly a lot of people out there who named their kids after Dany... :laugh:

The fact that the directors wanted to tie then whole thing up to go and do a Star Wars movie says it all. I think they´ll make an absolute mess of Star Wars too. Rushed, and poorly thought out. People are going nuts online. I can´t imagine that GRR Martin assented to any of it.

I enjoyed the spectacle but the story makes no sense at all. Jon Snow standing there and allowing the slaughter by a Mad Queen who neveer showed any signs of madness has no sense at all. Eurons actor must be blowing someone to get so much screentime..worst character ever and had no right to be involved. The list is endless in regards to fuck ups but it all goes back to the fact that the books were never finished, and as such, the story was hijacked by hacks who wanted to drain every cent out of it. I´ll continue to watch, it´s still really entertaining, but the great story that was created has been made a balls of.

Martin wasn't happy that it's being wrapped up so soon. He wanted another couple of seasons. Probably in the hope that he might actually release book 6 in time. He's told the lads the way he plans on ending it. Whether that's the way they'll run with is anyone's guess. Personally I think he hasn't a hope of writing book 7.

Watching Ozzy Man review for the latest episode. He made an annoying good point!

"At the end of the day Game of Thrones  is doing what it's always done.. making us angry when things don't go the way we want!"


Haha I listened to Ozzy man too and he's got a load of good points. Aaarghhh don't know what to be thinking anymore  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :abbath:

5 episodes in and I've been annoyed about more things than positive so that sums it up for me. I think at this stage you just have to forget about everything else and just take it as is otherwise you'll end up on a metal forum going mental over a tv show that got it wrong!

i enjoyed that episode.
all the deaths of the main characters are going to seem anti-climatic at this stage i guess no matter what way they go out.
the sopranos is imo the best tv show ever and even the ending to that wasnt great tbh.

Quote from: blessed1 on May 14, 2019, 07:14:00 PM
i enjoyed that episode.
all the deaths of the main characters are going to seem anti-climatic at this stage i guess no matter what way they go out.
the sopranos is imo the best tv show ever and even the ending to that wasnt great tbh.

The ending to The Sopranos was utter fucking bullshit. "Oooooh you can put your own ending or ooooh does he die or not". Total cop out and a terrible ending.

Also The Wire is the best tv show ever but only by a small margin.

Rewatched that episode last night. The score is fantastic I have to say. And the start of the battle through to the end is brilliant television.

Actually just kicked off a fresh watch of The Wire last night since herself has never seen it. Even in the first episode I was thinking, imagine if this show had at any point tried to get away with the kinds of character development sins GoT has used it's spectacular fantasy veneer to mask!

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on May 15, 2019, 10:27:53 AM
Actually just kicked off a fresh watch of The Wire last night since herself has never seen it. Even in the first episode I was thinking, imagine if this show had at any point tried to get away with the kinds of character development sins GoT has used it's spectacular fantasy veneer to mask!

It didn't thank God. I watch the wire every 2 years. Always something new is revealed. Its just perfect.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCHlCiB98N4

In terms of matching the evolution of both entities, I think GIMME FUEL GIMME FIRE GIMME THAT WHICH I DESIRE!!! would have been a better fit  :abbath:

#104 May 16, 2019, 02:07:43 PM Last Edit: May 16, 2019, 02:10:11 PM by The Butcher
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on May 16, 2019, 01:28:42 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCHlCiB98N4

In terms of matching the evolution of both entities, I think GIMME FUEL GIMME FIRE GIMME THAT WHICH I DESIRE!!! would have been a better fit  :abbath:

::) ::) Definitely fuel for comedic value!

The way Danys rage mode activated - Even something like keeping Danys second dragon alive for the bells part....then she thinks they have surrendered and then a scorpion kills that dragon sending Dany into a final rage would have been a better touch in my opinion. There was so many things since Season 7 (and bits from Season 5/6 as well) that could have been tweaked and worked on/fleshed out a bit more to make this ending work.

Ideally Dany the minute she got to Westeros - just go and destroy the Red Keep / end the Cersei plot and have the final season all about the white walkers and the battles up north. Would have been more interesting to me. It's like writing Return Of The Jedi destroying the Death Star first and the ending is rescuing Hans Solo.