Yeah it's just a bit meh..he needs more fleshing out I think. Anyway he's gone now. Would have loved to hear him talk instead of just posing all the time. Proper black metal looking though in fairness  :abbath: :abbath: :abbath: :abbath: :abbath: :abbath: :abbath: :abbath: :abbath: :abbath: :abbath:

Minor gripes, the episode was bloody amazeballs in all fairness

#32 May 01, 2019, 09:02:39 AM Last Edit: May 01, 2019, 09:06:27 AM by The Butcher
I enjoyed it alright but a lot of tiny things annoyed me. As much as I liked the Dothraki charge scene with the flaming swords, surely it would have been better to have them come in and flank and THEN be overwhelmed by the sheer scale of the undead army rather than as pure cannon fodder? Everyone should have been behind the trenches and it was mad to see them stop using the siege weapons (which were out in front?!). And they stopped firing arrows when they were stuck behind the lit trenches. As you can see I'm a bit of a military strategist myself   ::) mad to think they had all those great minds in the war room and they couldn't come up with a better defence.

And the plot armor is obviously very strong for all the main characters now. Sam just laying on a hill of bodies crying  :laugh:

I enjoyed all the dragon scenes and I'm grand with Arya dealing out the killer blow. I was half expecting Brans wheelchair to explode with dragonglass flying everywhere ala Breaking bad style. *BELL RINGING INTENSIFIES*  :laugh:

It would have been more interesting to see the living retreat down through the secret chambers underneath Winterfell and seeing how that scenario would play out. Or having the Night King head to Kings Landing with the dragon instead. :abbath: Have to be content with getting an ending to this with D&D. George RR Martin might release Winds Of Winter but will never complete the last book.

The show gone full feminist too I noticed. Women in all positions of power. Women doing all the major defending, fighting and killing. Pfff a sign of the times I suppose

Well, Daenerys was correctly portrayed to be completely useless in hand to hand combat, at least. 

Said the same thing about the Dothraki charge while watching; very much style over substance where someone had the - admittedly nice - idea of the extinguishing flames, and that took precedence over a realistic battle plan.

I think once the books stopped being relevant, a new narrative took over. It's still one of the coolest things ever but nothing will ever beat them first three books up until Joffrey's killing. It's rambled a bit since then. I really hope there are some proper twists and deaths now and none of this Hollywood, Disney ending stuff.


Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on May 01, 2019, 10:59:06 AM
Well, Daenerys was correctly portrayed to be completely useless in hand to hand combat, at least. 

Said the same thing about the Dothraki charge while watching; very much style over substance where someone had the - admittedly nice - idea of the extinguishing flames, and that took precedence over a realistic battle plan.

Yes Daenerys was definitely using Jorah as a meat shield  :laugh:

Starting to accept this will be the Hollywood "style over substance" type ending to the show. Seasons 1-4 will always be remembered for it's sheer brilliance in writing and character development. Season 5 onwards the show started to suffer from lack of book material but I can accept that the producers need to wrap this up. Looking forward to the last 3 episodes. If they can give us another one or two Hodor wtf type moments at the end, I'd be happy.

Also - what does Bran/Three eyed raven do now? Does he help out with the Cersei plotline or just stay at Winterfell or goes beyond the wall?

I presume we have yet to find out what Bran was actually up to while he was warging... among other questions asked in the article that may yet be answered (Melisandre, for example). Almost feels like there's a complaint about the series becoming too Hollywood, but at the same time there's complaints about every single explanation for absolutely everything not being spoon-fed to us :/

Yeah that's about it. I think even if it turns out Hollywood it will have been a great achievement overall. Them dragon scenes etc, the stuff you could only imagine in your mind as a youngster.

Quote from: Pedrito on May 01, 2019, 10:54:18 AM
The show gone full feminist too I noticed. Women in all positions of power. Women doing all the major defending, fighting and killing. Pfff a sign of the times I suppose

Eh women have always been in positions of power and fighting in Game of Thrones. And more power to it.

Quote from: The Butcher on May 01, 2019, 09:02:39 AM
Have to be content with getting an ending to this with D&D. George RR Martin might release Winds Of Winter but will never complete the last book.

I reckon he is going to release the last two at the same time.

There's always going to be small gripes in the episode but i really enjoyed it. Cannot fathom how people are going how did Ayra kill the NK. Shes a trained assassin for fecks sake. Poor Sir Jorah. I'm actually glad most of the main characters have lived as it sets it up for some great backstabbing in the remaining episodes.

#43 May 01, 2019, 02:56:59 PM Last Edit: May 01, 2019, 03:01:47 PM by Black Shepherd Carnage
I think people (myself included a bit) invented a whole skill set for these men twisted into white walkers that we were never actually told they have, beyond the few things we do know about them. Have they ever shown themselves to be hyper intelligent or incredibly alert? Sam killed one ffs!

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on May 01, 2019, 02:56:59 PM
I think people (myself included a bit) invented a whole skill set for these men twisted into white walkers that we were never actually told they have, beyond the few things we do know about them. Have they ever shown themselves to be hyper intelligent or incredibly alert? Sam killed one ffs!

Exactly. What they had was numbers. One on one no match for a knight.