Game of Thrones - New Episodes Discussion (SPOILERS)

[Abandon All Hope]

Why can't Sansa be a bit more adventurous like Arya..badly need a goo of her funbags 

[Pedrito]

It would be more than a Littlefinger I´d give her I tell ye

[Pedrito]

Jesus...wow

[Emphyrio]

Deadly

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

That'll be getting watched again.

[ldj]

I liked the episode but I can't help but feel there was way too much fan service...like Lyanna Mormont, a child, taking out a giant. 

There weren't enough deaths either tbh, can't help but feel like they're going to go the Hollywood route where everyone lives happily ever after.

I mean Grey Worm of all people lived, he was on the front lines ffs. Grey Worm, Tormund, Brienne, Samwell, The Hound, and a bunch of others probably should have died, I don't mean I want them to die, but it doesn't feel like the beloved characters are actually in danger anymore.

I enjoyed it other than that.

[Pedrito]

Yep more should have died, especially poxy Greyworm. I'm worried about the Hollywood ending. The episode was class all.the same though.

[DeletedUsermNqGIiIuGy]

Jesus that was fucking traumatizing 

Couple of points of note:
1) while all this was going on... there's Brann sittin out in a deckstair, clearly off his face on mushrooms!!!
2) RIP Melisandre's top notch baps
3) The scene at the start when all the Dothraki get their swords set on fire was great.. scary as fuck when they all started going out in the distance!!!
4) The dragons up on the clouds where they were waiting for the other to appear looked amazing
5) The night kinds walk to Brann was a tad overkill length wise, the build up would have been just as good about 5 mins shorter tbh
6) No way Jon Boy's gettin the ride after ditching herself.

[Circlepit]

It was very hard to see what was going on. The atmosphere was great but I found it hard focus with all the chaos.
I read online it's down to HBO compressing the digital files to try and optimise the viewing quality for all platforms. Surely the telly should be given priority.
No more wights now. I know s big sword battle one on one with frosty and a hero is too Hollywood but part of me wanted to see it. Having said that I'm really happy they didn't do it.
As said already that shot of the 2 dragons over the rolling clouds was fantastic.

[Pedrito]

The dragon scene was spectacular alright. Sure to become part of wider pop culture.  There are definitely metal heads involved in the show..check out Rhapsody's Power of the Dragonflame cover.

As for the red witch..may the god of light look after those lovely baps.

[blessed1]

Seriously annoyed with that episode.i was hoping for loads of treachery and back-stabbing. I couldn't make out what was going on either it was so dark.bit shit to be fair.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

I liked the episode but I can't help but feel there was way too much fan service...like Lyanna Mormont, a child, taking out a giant.

She did do it kamikaze style though, allowing her to go out with a single action that showed all her strong talk up to this point wasn't just that. Had she done it and lived, I might agree with that complaint, but I think it was a fitting way to tie up her somewhat singular character.

Arya I saw coming, in the sense that during the whole advance of the Night King towards Bran, I was saying to herself, "Where's Arya...?" I guess they went for the surprise leap at the end for dramatic effect, but, despite the episode showcasing her fighting skills like never before, I think a lot of the audience didn't find it believable that she'd be able to sneak up on the Night King like that. Again though, for the last couple of seasons, we're supposed to know and accept her to be essentially the finest assassin in Westeros!

The Night King's obsession with Bran must have been a slightly later idea. What we never got was any kind of character development of the villain, something which could have shown him to be driven by primal forces which are stronger than any sense of military tactics he might have (this is another complaint). But, on the other hand, the army of the dead has only shown one tactic to really speak of; a blind willingness to self-sacrifice (building the body bridges over the fire in this episode, for example). Apart from that, they advance purely like a swarm. In which case, why imagine the Night King to be a great tactician? Maybe he really is as dumb as he is powerful, which would be the only explanation for why he didn't simply wait another half hour or so until he could be sure everyone was dead and undead again before going after Bran. This wasn't brought out enough, but that's how I choose to read it to make sense of it.

No sense to be made of all the characters who survived who clearly shouldn't have though. Like, if they'd wanted Sam to survive, they should at least have had him run away somewhere!

[DeletedUsermNqGIiIuGy]

 
Agreed on Lyanna's death, if she had lived it would have just been ridculous. I was wondering if it was going to go that way and the writers even said that they felt they needed to do something with her as she was only meant to have a singular part in the series but became a bit more.

On Arya, yes I found that whole thing to be a little bit silly afterwards. That the night king could be killed in such an easy fashion given how he's been throughout the show. His death felt a bit anticlimatic looking back. During it I was caught up in the whole spectacle of what was going on but in retrospect it seemed a bit silly unreal. I guess it will be put as she put all her super schneaky assasin training to work. It just seemed odd she was bouncing back and forth between super shinobi ninja assasin to regaluar kid in it. There was sort of a big build up to this super fancy weapon had made for her and then it was used in one short scene and she lost it!!!

Regarding the Night King, yeah from the video's I've watched on the back stories etc there doesn't seem to be much on it so far. Perhaps he will add more to it in the new books or maybe there will be more on him in the remaining episodes. We saw in one of the visions with the original 3 eyed raven that those freaking looking 'leaf children' created him but from what I remember it was never stated much about the actual human they used and if he was just a random they caught? I could be wrong on that though. But yes it just seemed like he had a mean javelin throw and these super powers to raise the dead and control weather? I think if that's it for the army of the dead and the night king, it's a bit of a waste tbh
I think the whole chasing after bran etc was something the show writers added themselves.

Bran worged into the crows for a long period and really  nothing much came of it did it? He was in that mode for a long time so I am assuming he must have been upto something else that we'll learn later.

110% on the main characters who were just unkillable. I know it's a fantasy show but they must be crossfitters to keep fighting in all that armor despite thousands of undead attacking.

The episode was enjoyable overall as a spectacle but a lot of glaring issues that I guess you hope will be covered before it ends.

[Pedrito]

I think in a 'high fantasy' sense, the new episodes have been spectacular. What has happened though is that we have gone from a more gritty, reality based fantasy like Joe Abercrombie to something more akin to Dungeons and dragons or The Wheel of Time. It's cool in a 'fantasy' setting to have the little girl kill the giant etc. It doesn't match the gritty fantasy tones of the earlier seasons though, so it's bound to jar. I have really enjoyed the more magic and sorcery side to it all..it was always there I suppose just waiting to come out.

If I can use a metal music analogy, we are in Blind Guardian or Rhapsody of Fire territory whereas we started out with something more akin to Jag Panzer.

The Night King ruled but I'd love to know 'why' he wanted to kill all humanity. Is there aby reasoning behind any of it? I'm always looking for the why I suppose. Sauron had a why..he was a miserable, dark cunt. Not sure why the Night King wants to do anything.

I would also.say that they've missed out a little on distinguishing possible 'powers' or 'characteristics' of characters. That Lyanna Mormont one is of noble blood. The Starks possess certain traits with the direwolves etc, Daenerys obviously displays unusual.traits, so why not bring more attengion to that within this 'high fantasy' setting. I think it would explain a lot and allow us to get outside the 'realism' issue people, myself included, seem to have. Armies of the dead etc and yet we can't imagine a little girl takimg down a giant..myself included. That hints at a lack.of storytelling, but I'm willing to fill in those gaps I suppose. Also, Arya, for example, takes up a tonne of time in the books developing to be an assassin. She spends a long time out there and I'm not sure the series couls ever capture that. It's a pity but it also requires us to suspend reality and take things as they are.

Great episode, but yes, loads of stuff that needs or could be better explained or at least fleshed out a bit more.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

The Night King ruled but I'd love to know 'why' he wanted to kill all humanity. Is there aby reasoning behind any of it? I'm always looking for the why I suppose. Sauron had a why..he was a miserable, dark cunt. Not sure why the Night King wants to do anything.

He was bewitched and transformed by them wee ent-like children what throw fireballs to fight for them against humanity, who they were at war with at the time. "We've created a monster" scenario then followed. It's gone over in the episodes where Bran first meets the three-eyed raven.