Quote from: Necro Red on January 02, 2024, 10:16:51 AMthey made Reed sound shit ha ha

He needed no help in that regard, he was always shit. But that aural abortion is one of the worst things ever committed to tape.

I've never actually listened to Lulu, kinda curious to hear just how bad it is, but if it is a shite as its reputation I don't want to waste two hours on it

You'll be doing well to make it past the first song, but if you make it to track two, then this will surely make you want to pick up a table close to you and throw it at your stereo...


It's so shite it's worth listening to just so you can re-calibrate in your mind just how shite shite can actually be.

They also appeared on Jools Holland, personally it's so shit I can't even watch it again.

Quote from: jobrok1 on January 02, 2024, 11:18:21 AMYou'll be doing well to make it past the first song, but if you make it to track two, then this will surely make you want to pick up a table close to you and throw it at your stereo...



Jaysus its cat.
I have an "I Am The Table" sticker I got in Metal Hammer at the time stuck to my computer desk, gives me a little giggle every time I see it.

S+M, which I don't think has been mentioned yet, is also complete and utter scutter.

S&M is grand for some tracks, others don't work so well. S&M2, however, is shite from start to finish.

I liked S&M at the time, but then again I'd want to have to be listening to Metallica lol.

Haven't thrown it on in at least a decade other than the two originals on it. Never heard a note of the second one, took a look at the track list and thought there'd be no point other than to confirm its pointlessness.

They're cunts for rehashing live versions of the same songs.

Back on topic!
I suppose someone has to mention Paradise Lost's Host album. Another one I can't listen to at all.
I know some actually like it, but as far as I'm concerned it's another 'Totally Shit The Bed' album.
Nothing redeeming about it whatsoever!

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on December 31, 2023, 01:32:49 PMNot about turning points though...? Yes Black album was the turning point towards complete shit, but in itself it still has lots of great moments. It's not "all" shit, which is how I understood the OP.

Yes, this would be my interpretation as well. I completely get why metallers of a certain vintage wouldn't like Black at all, but that was first exposure to them at the age of 11 and I thought it was great. Not so much now of course, but there's some mad shite being spouted here... there's some absolute bangers on that album. But absolutely yeah, it was a turning point and pretty much everything that came after was poor to outright shite. Chaos AD would be another good example, it marked a complete change to that chuggy, groove metal sound so typical of roadrunner bands at that time and paved the way for Roots which, although I liked at the time, is shite in retrospect.

How in God's name could Prometheus be a turning point? They released nothing since?!

Quote from: Massey Ferguson on January 02, 2024, 10:25:06 AMLoad and Reload may have had some okay songs, but anyone defending Metallica's output after that is deluded. At least Slayer managed to release some decent albums after their Diabolus abortion, Metallica can't even manage to write a half-decent tune.

Speaking of bands that managed to recapture some of their magic after going to shit, I think The Stench of Redemption was a great release from Deicide after some very poor albums.

I think Diabolous in Musica isn't bad at all for the first 7 or 8 tracks. If they'd stopped it there it'd be grand. Thought God Hates Us All was much worse, and World Painted Blood was worse as well

Theres good songs on all Slayers albums over the last 25 years imo.

St Anger better than the Black album!?.
 :o

Ah lads, Prometheus is a whopper. Yiz could argue "is it really Emperor?", but the quality is there.

Quote from: Carnage on January 02, 2024, 10:29:35 AM
Quote from: Necro Red on January 02, 2024, 10:16:51 AMthey made Reed sound shit ha ha

He needed no help in that regard, he was always shit. But that aural abortion is one of the worst things ever committed to tape.

No truer words were ever spoken. I randomly found a live album of his (Animal Serenade) in a book shop for a quid and figured "why not"... filing down the edges of the euro and inserting it up me hole would be a more palatable use for it than buying that album again.

It's doubling baffling how bad Reed was when you realise he thought himself as a genius. And he was a cunt of a person too.

Quote from: astfgyl on January 02, 2024, 05:34:05 PM
Quote from: Massey Ferguson on January 02, 2024, 10:25:06 AMLoad and Reload may have had some okay songs, but anyone defending Metallica's output after that is deluded. At least Slayer managed to release some decent albums after their Diabolus abortion, Metallica can't even manage to write a half-decent tune.

Speaking of bands that managed to recapture some of their magic after going to shit, I think The Stench of Redemption was a great release from Deicide after some very poor albums.

I think Diabolous in Musica isn't bad at all for the first 7 or 8 tracks. If they'd stopped it there it'd be grand. Thought God Hates Us All was much worse, and World Painted Blood was worse as well

God Hates Us All is poor alright, but Christ Illusion is decent and World Painted Blood is a very good album. Once Slayer gave up adding nu-metal/groove metal elements and went back to basics they managed to release some good music unlike Metallica who are just lost in the wilderness.