Lords of Chaos movie

[Trev]

When I was a teenager I would've been much more into the mystique around the Norwegian scene that they built for themselves, then getting older you realise they were just a bunch of scummy kids acting like complete cunts

I've given up on the whole having to "get" black metal thing and just enjoy the music without thinking about the whole kvlt bollocks around some of it

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Whatever about Alexander, Oliver Stone definitely got flak about the inventions he threw into the movie The Doors. Don't think any of the surviving members were happy with it.

Looks like an interesting take on the scene, reducing them to undisciplined teenagers. As Montaigne once said, "Even on the highest throne in the world, one still sits on one's arse." However, it does look like the "highest throne" aspect will be utterly binned, in the sense that the undeniable genius of the music they were crafting while all this was going on will not be set front and centre, which is something both Bohemian Rhapsody and The Doors at the very least had going for them.

[Weltenfeind]

the undeniable genius of the music they were crafting while all this was going on will not be set front and centre, which is something both Bohemian Rhapsody and The Doors at the very least had going for them.

^This is my only concern about this movie. Admittedly the whole drama is what drew most of us in initially but pretty sure that we stuck around for the actual music.

[Pedrito]

That's a good way to look at it and really gets to the point I was making about the Sex Pistols. A bunch of young and idealistic lads, with a deep resentment for authority and society at the time, who basically created a whole artistic and societal movement, that had massive social consequences that can still be felt today. Black metal is not that, but it can't be only boiled down to a bunch of dickheads who just stumbled into notoriety. Some of the monumental albums, the genius aspect to them, the desire to manifest whatever the fuck was going on in their twisted little minds, the carrying out of awful acts of violence, arson, murder etc. It's not run of the mill stuff, and they are not run of the mill people. What would be interesting would be if they could get to some underlying reason as to why a number of teenagers would go so far and lose touch so much with any sense of normality, morals, regard for life etc. 

[Eoin McLove]

I completely agree.  I have no shame in loving black metal however ludicrous it may appear to other people.  The acts of violence can be taken in context of the fact that they were enacted by teenagers who may have lacked maturity or wisdom,  but you can't disentangle the music of the time from those acts. The phenomenon wouldn't still be living on today if the music wasn't powerful enough to carry it. I am interested in the film but have low expectations after the trailers I've seen. I think that, as a music fan,  thee is a lot to explore in the topic and it would be cool too see a slightly more reverential take on it that wouldn't necessarily have to glorify the murders etc.

[Pentagrimes]

But the catch22 is that without the crimes,youd have no film. The movie isnt about music or cultural significance,its a true crime film

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

A true crime film about undisciplined and broody teenagers rather than a true crime film about mystifyingly talented and visionary teenaged musicians (who were also undisciplined and up their own holes).

[Eoin McLove]

Indeed,  the crimes are what make it a film and of interest to non- fans.  I am curious to see how or if they approach the music in terms of its significance, but I'm expecting that end of things to be widely ignored.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Yer man Jonas, in an interview, copped out with some kind of thing like "black metal is difficult to listen to", as to why he didn't include more (still remains to be seen how much relevant music is actually in it). It's billed as a horror-thriller, so excluding something from the soundtrack because it may be perceived as unpleasant by many seems ludicrous. Most likely it's going to fall in with many other films that flopped because they didn't have a firm enough vision of what they were trying to be, like Sister Act 2 for example.

[Eoin McLove]

In fairness,  it could never recaptured the magic of the debut. 

[Pentagrimes]

Yer man Jonas, in an interview, copped out with some kind of thing like "black metal is difficult to listen to", as to why he didn't include more (still remains to be seen how much relevant music is actually in it). It's billed as a horror-thriller, so excluding something from the soundtrack because it may be perceived as unpleasant by many seems ludicrous. Most likely it's going to fall in with many other films that flopped because they didn't have a firm enough vision of what they were trying to be, like Sister Act 2 for example.

The soundtrack contains  Mayhem,Bathory, Venom, Sodom, Celtic Frost, Grotesque, Carcass, Holy Terror and Sarcofago among others (along with stuff like Wardruna, Dead Can Dance and yes, don't worry, "Take On Me" by Aha also) so I think we all know he's talking absolute shite. I'd guess  guess Mayhem was secured for a financial consideration, but he either couldn't or wouldn't deal with Vikernes' representatives for the Burzum music. Again this suggests music is clearly incidental rather than key otherwise he'd not have been able to go ahead without some kind of Burzum tuneage on there. I think the snippets of Mayhem songs are actually played by the actors as well, saw an interview somewhere discussing them having music coaches teach them how to play.

Myrkur is used too which I'm sure will be an even bigger sting for some.

It'll be interesting to see if and how, given the film will I suspect to some degree bring these incidents back in the press  for a blip what with the general relase, certain parties may or may not attempt to capitalise on the renewed public (ie: non black metal fan) interest.

[Grim Reality]

I recall watching one of those Varg vids where he's sitting talking shite in his van where he says he was contacted by the makers of the movie about using Burzum music and he rather predictably told them to fuck off. Darkthrone and Mayhem too I thought but apparently Mayhems music is in it. Of those bands listed on the soundtrack in the above post there is a glaring lack of 90s Norwegian contemporaries- no enslaved, gorgoroth, emperor etc which you would imagine they would want to use to add atmosphere and authenticity to the film. Clearly the unruly teenagers are still belligerent in their ould age 😁

[Pentagrimes]

Mayhem seem to have done a u-turn on it. Attila and Hellhammer have been pictured on set.

[blessed1]

Mayhem seem to have done a u-turn on it. Attila and Hellhammer have been pictured on set.

shocking stuff altogether

[Fakehuman]

check this one instead, hilarious shit:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7220754/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1