Controversial Metal Opinions

[Pentagrimes]

Actually here's one that kind of relates to that post and one I was talking about with the bandmates last night:

aside from death/black metal  (and maybe hardcore/grindcore), metal vocalists who use harsh vocals instead of trying to sing are lazy fuckers that hinder their own music.

Gonna use Tribulation as the handy example here but many of the aforementioned "sludge" bros are also equally guilty.

[Eoin McLove]

Mu Cephei sound promising to me in an early Moss kinda way.

[John Kimble]

aside from death/black metal  (and maybe hardcore/grindcore), metal vocalists who use harsh vocals instead of trying to sing are lazy fuckers that hinder their own music.

Gonna use Tribulation as the handy example here but many of the aforementioned "sludge" bros are also equally guilty.

I think 'lazy' is a bit of a harsh assessment, I'd imagine many vocalists who use that style do so out of neccessity as they may not be particularly good 'clean' singers. I do see where you're going with Tribulation though...I  wouldn't have liked clean vocals on, say, TFOD, but they certainly would have made TCOTN a more interesting listen.

[Pentagrimes]

Of course it's a harsh assessment, this the controversial opinions thread.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

As I've said many times in reference to Tribulation, you don't need to go clean to introduce variety...and Morbus Chron is the best contemporary example of that.

[Grim Reality]

Actually here's one that kind of relates to that post and one I was talking about with the bandmates last night:

aside from death/black metal  (and maybe hardcore/grindcore), metal vocalists who use harsh vocals instead of trying to sing are lazy fuckers that hinder their own music.

Gonna use Tribulation as the handy example here but many of the aforementioned "sludge" bros are also equally guilty.

On the other hand you have the likes of Primordial where Nemtheanga gave up the lazy roaring and started proper singing and ruined the whole fucking band 

[Mags]

On the other hand you have the likes of Primordial where Nemtheanga gave up the lazy roaring and started proper singing and ruined the whole fucking band 

jaisus

you don't need to go clean to introduce variety...and Morbus Chron is the best contemporary example of that.

Absolutely, their vocals are sublime. It's annoying when death/black bands who make otherwise exciting music opt to go for completely monotone harsh vocals.

[Grim Reality]

On the other hand you have the likes of Primordial where Nemtheanga gave up the lazy roaring and started proper singing and ruined the whole fucking band 

jaisus

You better believe it Mags!

The early/mid albums had a golden atmosphere and vibe, unlike anything else in metal. The rougher, more amateur vocal style blended seamlessly with the instrumental work to create a coherent whole. Special stuff. He lost the plot in recent years with the vocal histrionics which grate far too often for me to be able to listen to the new stuff at all.

I didn't think that was even a controversial opinion 

[Eoin McLove]

I'm a fan of both eras, despite being critical of a couple of later albums.  You can't deny the charm of the early stuff and how they really developed a unique sound or of their influences.  The demo and even Imrama are clumsy at times in their mixing of doom and BM. You can see the seams quite easily,  but the essence of the band is present from the start.  But,  despite being much more refined these days,  that essence is still loud and clear to my ear.

[Ducky]

I think Primordial are for the most part coma-inducing, but the lad's vocals on "The Coffin Ships" give the goosebumps a run-out every time.

[Ducky]

Eloy Casagrande (the young lad in Sepultura) is one of the best drummers in metal today.

[Wiseblood]

Eloy Casagrande (the young lad in Sepultura) is one of the best drummers in metal today.

Nowt controversial about that at all.

[Makeshiftatomsmasher]

Eloy Casagrande (the young lad in Sepultura) is one of the best drummers in metal today.

That's just fact. Phenomenal drummer.

[Thrashssacre]

Kamelots album Poetry for the poisoned is as good as karma and the black halo.

[ldj]

Behemoth are all style, no substance.

IMO of course.