Controversial Metal Opinions

[Eoin McLove]

Not exactly controversial. Maybe a bit coming from me... in work today driving to and from our job my colleage put on Lorna Shore and Humanity's Last Breath. I don't pay any attention to deathcore so the developments in that scene are lost on me. I was surprised at how dark both bands were. LS were very bombastic with their use of keys. You could hear an Emperor and Behemoth influence, which I didn't expect. Then HLB were just very deep and dark sounding. A bit monotone on the old e-minor chuggery, but still effective and atmospheric. Will I rush out and buy their CDs? That's unlikely. But colour me impressed.

[Anvil]

A former acquaintance was mad into Lorna Shore and I ended up getting some of their albums at their suggestion.   They didn't appreciate my comment about parts sounding like Cradle of Filth. Thought they were okay, not really my cup of tea, but really have no staying power.   

Edit: also I find people who like this style of music are total obsessed with the break downs... which I don't get. 

[Circlepit]

I've heard bits of Lorna Shore, it seems to be lots of breakdowns strung together.

I love breakdowns but there has to be the bit leading up to it for it to work.
The live footage seems like their crowd goes bananas for them.
There seems to be a load of effects of his on his voice to make it seem more crazy.

I've listened to Slaughter To Prevail a bit, another one that seems to write the whole set for a pit over the quality of the song.

[Eoin McLove]

In the album by Lorna Shore that was on, and it was on in the background while we were chatting, I wasn't overwhelmed by breakdowns. It was the sense of majesty brought by the keyboards that caught my ear more than anything. Some nice widdly solos too.

The other lads sounded much darker and yes, it was more overtly chugg-central, but to my ear maybe more Meshuggah-ish rhythmically. But the vibe was very much an evil one rather than a mosh pit one. Something about it put Breach in my mind, but it didn't exactly sound like them either, just that sense of blackness that was coming off it.

I was taken aback on both counts though. They seemed to be pushing that deathcore style in a more ominous direction which was interesting.  Like,  the image it was putting in my head wasn't exactly neck tattoos and three quarter length shorts 😅

[Maggot Colony]

I had a similar experience when my nephew played Knocked Loose for me. I'm not saying I enjoyed it, but I was surprised at how intense the music is especially given how popular they are. I was expecting a watered down version of Slipknot but they're actually heavy as fuck, and the singer sounds like a deranged hyena. I'm a bit bemused by how popular they are, but I'm glad the nephew is listening to heavier stuff instead of Ed cunting Sheeran. 

[Eoin McLove]

Actually, the last CD I bought was Ed Sheeran. It wasn't for me, but still.

[Maggot Colony]

You should be ashamed of yourself. If my wife asked me to buy anything Ed Sheeran related I'd leave her and the kids. Fuck them all.

[Eoin McLove]

No mercy.

[John Kimble]

Not exactly controversial. Maybe a bit coming from me... in work today driving to and from our job my colleage put on Lorna Shore and Humanity's Last Breath. I don't pay any attention to deathcore so the developments in that scene are lost on me. I was surprised at how dark both bands were. LS were very bombastic with their use of keys. You could hear an Emperor and Behemoth influence, which I didn't expect. Then HLB were just very deep and dark sounding. A bit monotone on the old e-minor chuggery, but still effective and atmospheric. Will I rush out and buy their CDs? That's unlikely. But colour me impressed.

Similarly, a colleague from work is big into that kind of music and he keeps sending me stuff to check out. A lot of it is undeniably heavy but it has that sterile, overproduced sound. It's grand and I'm sure these lads are capable of reproducing it note for note in a live setting, but that's not really what does it for me when it comes to metal. Maybe not the greatest example but I recently watched a video of Abbadon Incarnate from a gig in Cork a few years back...now I'm not a musician and im not for one second suggesting that AI aren't technically proficient, but the performance had that raw, chaotic feel to it which is what I love about going to gigs.

As already mentioned, those bands seem to structure their songs around breakdowns which is just boring as fuck.

[Barnacle Billy]

You should be ashamed of yourself. If my wife asked me to buy anything Ed Sheeran related I'd leave her and the kids. Fuck them all.

Me too. I'm not married, but I would get married just so I could leave them for that reason too.

[Ducky]

Voivod's "Post Society" EP is the best thing they've ever released. And I say that with the opinion that both "Killing Technology" and "Dimension Hatross" are 10/10 records.

[Sworntothecans]

Not exactly controversial. Maybe a bit coming from me... in work today driving to and from our job my colleage put on Lorna Shore and Humanity's Last Breath. I don't pay any attention to deathcore so the developments in that scene are lost on me. I was surprised at how dark both bands were. LS were very bombastic with their use of keys. You could hear an Emperor and Behemoth influence, which I didn't expect. Then HLB were just very deep and dark sounding. A bit monotone on the old e-minor chuggery, but still effective and atmospheric. Will I rush out and buy their CDs? That's unlikely. But colour me impressed.

Think for that generation of bands the keys tend to come more 
from video games than
COF/Dimmu/Emperor.

[Eoin McLove]

Not exactly controversial. Maybe a bit coming from me... in work today driving to and from our job my colleage put on Lorna Shore and Humanity's Last Breath. I don't pay any attention to deathcore so the developments in that scene are lost on me. I was surprised at how dark both bands were. LS were very bombastic with their use of keys. You could hear an Emperor and Behemoth influence, which I didn't expect. Then HLB were just very deep and dark sounding. A bit monotone on the old e-minor chuggery, but still effective and atmospheric. Will I rush out and buy their CDs? That's unlikely. But colour me impressed.

Think for that generation of bands the keys tend to come more 
from video games than
COF/Dimmu/Emperor.

Could well be, yeah.