Quote from: Giggles on May 18, 2022, 08:51:02 PM
People that send one line messages
Like this
One after the other
Instead of putting it all into one message
The result being
That your phone beeps/buzzes
8 fucking times
Instead of just once

I confess
I'm one of the worst
For doing that

Middle age/old people that stand in the way in the shop poking their phone with their index finger like a child poking an electrical socket  :laugh:

At the risk of sounding like a subject in a Stewart Lee rant - how difficult can it be to make a toaster that fits a standard slice of bread? Fucking head melting! On my 3rd attempt now! You'd think reading the 1000's of Amazon reviews would help but no.....I have no idea what size of loaf most of these 4 and 5 star fuckers are attempting to toast!

ATM charges. I don't know what it's like at home but if you don't have an account at the bank you're trying to withdraw from and you're in a rush here, it can be 3 or 4 quid to get out a few pound. Slimy fuckers have some nerve.

Yeah I think the Brinks machines are like that here, a couple of euro charge on it

It is like that in Canada $3 charge anytime you use any ATM that is not owned by the bank you are with. Was the first place I ever saw anything like that and with the way everyone in the country does whatever they can to take money out of your pocket I wasn't surprised.

Rogers one of the main phone companies charges $7 a month for caller ID so if you don't pay the $7 all your phone will show anytime anyone calls is 'call' and you will have no idea who is calling you.


A few people were telling ,me recently that they are talking about bringing that same bank ATM charges thing into Ireland in the future.

Quote from: mickO))) on May 31, 2022, 10:26:42 AM
It is like that in Canada $3 charge anytime you use any ATM that is not owned by the bank you are with. Was the first place I ever saw anything like that and with the way everyone in the country does whatever they can to take money out of your pocket I wasn't surprised.

Rogers one of the main phone companies charges $7 a month for caller ID so if you don't pay the $7 all your phone will show anytime anyone calls is 'call' and you will have no idea who is calling you.


A few people were telling ,me recently that they are talking about bringing that same bank ATM charges thing into Ireland in the future.

The ATM charge thing in Canada is shameless alright. I just make sure to have some cash at home nowadays.

Luckily, the phone situation is getting a bit better here. I just changed providers and I'm down to just over $30 for everything I need for the the month. A bit of competition now at long last.

The far the worse thing though, many venues here will insist on a mandatory coat check in winter. Annoying enough, but then the gig ends and everyone moves towards the coat check....where one person is manning the thing. An insane wait ensures. The most bizarre example of this was at a big gig pre-COVID where I purposely didn't bring a coat to avoid this, and the security insisted that everyone get into one big line to go past the coat check. Blocking your leaving even if you hadn't a coat checked. Literally imprisoned in the venue!

Finally a bunch of us without coats just used the emergency exit. Alarm went off. Security looking after us like they never thought that would happen. Fucking idiots of the highest order.

I assume there is some benefit to living in Canada? It's completely negative here, plus a pal of mine who had to move back home over poor quality of life related to his (tasty enough) salary...

Oh yeah there is, I just thought this was the thread for purely giving out.  :)

Outside of red hot cities like Toronto, Vancouver and Halifax, you can have a much higher standard of living than Ireland. Free healthcare across the board, still some value to be found in the housing market, very distinct seasons, great country for hiking, camping, fishing and outdoors stuff, legal weed, people generally being very chill and respectful, work culture and infrastructure that supports remote working, great music and cultural scene, I could go on.

Quote from: Caomhaoin on June 01, 2022, 12:11:05 AM
I assume there is some benefit to living in Canada? It's completely negative here, plus a pal of mine who had to move back home over poor quality of life related to his (tasty enough) salary...
I greatly enjoyed my five years in Canada, Vancouver specifically, and got enough experience in my work there to get me into Logistics.  It is what you make of it, and all depending what you want from it.  Mid 20s, joined a band, worked with good people, sessioned my little heart out, incredibly relaxed life even though it was in the heart of a city, never went asking for anything regarding entertainment or quality of life - until what I wanted for myself changed, and my wife.  Once we started considering where we wanted to work, buying property, owning a car, distance from family, etc etc, it became more important for us to move home where we could accomplish things with more ease and where we want to set up for life.  We also went in 2010 when the landscape for work and life in Ireland was much different.

We settled in fairly rapidly but a huge amount of the irish we met there were disillusioned within a year, likely because of the work you end up in and the living conditions at first, the only way you can make ends meet is to work whatever you're handed and live with a ton of other people, we ended up splitting a gaff with five other lads in East Van and I worked night shifts in a pizza place for half cash in hand, a far cry from what we were told it would be like - office jobs to beat the band, money being thrown at you, the dream.  We ended up temporarily homeless there but luckily got sorted by a friend to sleep on his living room floor for a month to get sorted.  We got stranded in the country by delays in our work visas another time.  Every person we moved with or met in the first year from home left because they couldn't hack it and they all faced similar or worse shit.  The irish were also known for their form while we were there and knew people who got refused rent because of other bad experiences with lads over on the rip for a year/student visas and the like.
I know a group of lads who got barred from every pub in Kitsilano after doing a 12 Pubs of Christmas in July.

Fuck knows how we did but once we got sorted after the first year of living chaos and could split a flat that was just us living in it, it was excellent there, it was incredibly difficult to give up the life to move home and start fresh but ultimately was the better move.

Anyway I'm rambling.  It's different for everyone I suppose.

Quote from: ResidentOfBok on June 01, 2022, 12:33:43 PM
Oh yeah there is, I just thought this was the thread for purely giving out.  :)

Outside of red hot cities like Toronto, Vancouver and Halifax, you can have a much higher standard of living than Ireland. Free healthcare across the board, still some value to be found in the housing market, very distinct seasons, great country for hiking, camping, fishing and outdoors stuff, legal weed, people generally being very chill and respectful, work culture and infrastructure that supports remote working, great music and cultural scene, I could go on.

Immolation and Suffocation and so on in your AREA every other week and all, it seems.

Quote from: ochoill on June 01, 2022, 01:08:57 PM
I greatly enjoyed my five years in Canada, Vancouver Co Tipp, Roscrea specifically, and got enough experience in my work there to get me into Logistics, running gear for the travellers..... 
Anyway I'm rambling.  It's different for everyone I suppose.

Quote from: astfgyl on June 01, 2022, 02:46:24 PM
Quote from: ochoill on June 01, 2022, 01:08:57 PM
I greatly enjoyed my five years in Canada, Vancouver Co Tipp, Roscrea specifically, and got enough experience in my work there to get me into Logistics, running gear for the travellers..... 
Anyway I'm rambling.  It's different for everyone I suppose.
:laugh:
North Tipp Best Tipp

Quote from: ResidentOfBok on June 01, 2022, 12:33:43 PM
Oh yeah there is, I just thought this was the thread for purely giving out.  :)

Outside of red hot cities like Toronto, Vancouver and Halifax, you can have a much higher standard of living than Ireland. Free healthcare across the board, still some value to be found in the housing market, very distinct seasons, great country for hiking, camping, fishing and outdoors stuff, legal weed, people generally being very chill and respectful, work culture and infrastructure that supports remote working, great music and cultural scene, I could go on.

The healthcare isn't free you pay shit loads through tax for it and the standard you get isn't all that better then Ireland. In Ontario you have the same issues you have here like people lying in hospital beds in corridors. Anyone who has any sort of money goes to the US for any sort of operations they need. I was on a waiting list for 8 months just to get a GP. My mates landlord needed stents in his heart recently was told he is going to have to wait about 14 months to get them. Since then he has had a second heart attack.

The housing in Ontario is also far worse than Ireland my family home in Ireland would cost about 3 times what it does in Toronto. I was over for a month in April was staying with my mate who's a carpenter.  He needed a hand so I went with him to work one day he brought me to what was basically a derelict bungalow and told me the new owners had just paid 1.5million for it and would probably have to put at least 2 million more into it to get it up to a liveable standard and all because it was 15mins drive from Toronto's city centre. Then you have the insane property taxes on top of that which are based on what your property is valued at,

Job security is abysmal you could be in a place 25 years and be told tomorrow your gone once you get 2 weeks severance you can't do a thing.  I found the work culture bad as well I am a Civil Engineer and everyone was obsessed with work seemed like they no life outside of it. Also felt like you couldn't be yourself in the office do or say something that isn't PC next thing you know you are on EI (Canadas dole). One place I worked in for two years all of the other staff literally spent the entire lunch break in the canteen moaning and crying about Trump day in day out. Legally companies only have to give you 10 days off a year. I got 15 and was told by many I should consider myself lucky. Taxes are a disgrace I am on the same money now I was on in Canada in 2020 and in Ireland I come out with almost 4k more a year in my pocket after tax.

The winters were just awful as well 7-8 months a year of snow on average -15 or -20 degrees. I am not someone who gets depressed often but after my third winter I really started getting fed up.

Then off the top of my head some of the pluses are it is crazy how safe it is even compared to Ireland. You do have some crazy attacks (Toronto has a huge mental health problem) but wasn't like here were someone would just start a fight with you on the street for no reason. In your free time you have so much to do and so many places to go. So many shops / food places open 24 hours. For free time as a kid it would be a great place to grow up in. The weed being legal is good but the actual legal weed is shite most still buy from the black market. Living in a big city where everyone didn't know your business was also a great thing. Some other good stuff but of course I love to focus on the negative   :laugh:

I came home in 2020 now Australia is the plan this December. A lot of the stuff I mentioned could be different from you because from what I remember on the Metalireland from talking to you before I went over, you are in Quebec. If I was to go back living I think I would pick Montreal over Toronto as it was the one place in Canada that reminded of Europe.

Never been to Vancouver and have always wanted to go especially when I was over in April but thanks to Trudeau I couldn't travel on a train or plane within Canada because I am not vaccinated. And from August 31st if I am in Canada I won't be allowed leave the country in anyway if I am not vaccinated.

Personally I think if they got rid of Trudeau it would transform the country all for the better.

Quote from: mickO))) on June 01, 2022, 06:44:46 PM
Quote from: ResidentOfBok on June 01, 2022, 12:33:43 PM
Oh yeah there is, I just thought this was the thread for purely giving out.  :)

Outside of red hot cities like Toronto, Vancouver and Halifax, you can have a much higher standard of living than Ireland. Free healthcare across the board, still some value to be found in the housing market, very distinct seasons, great country for hiking, camping, fishing and outdoors stuff, legal weed, people generally being very chill and respectful, work culture and infrastructure that supports remote working, great music and cultural scene, I could go on.

The healthcare isn't free you pay shit loads through tax for it and the standard you get isn't all that better then Ireland. In Ontario you have the same issues you have here like people lying in hospital beds in corridors. Anyone who has any sort of money goes to the US for any sort of operations they need. I was on a waiting list for 8 months just to get a GP. My mates landlord needed stents in his heart recently was told he is going to have to wait about 14 months to get them. Since then he has had a second heart attack.

The housing in Ontario is also far worse than Ireland my family home in Ireland would cost about 3 times what it does in Toronto. I was over for a month in April was staying with my mate who's a carpenter.  He needed a hand so I went with him to work one day he brought me to what was basically a derelict bungalow and told me the new owners had just paid 1.5million for it and would probably have to put at least 2 million more into it to get it up to a liveable standard and all because it was 15mins drive from Toronto's city centre. Then you have the insane property taxes on top of that which are based on what your property is valued at,

Job security is abysmal you could be in a place 25 years and be told tomorrow your gone once you get 2 weeks severance you can't do a thing.  I found the work culture bad as well I am a Civil Engineer and everyone was obsessed with work seemed like they no life outside of it. Also felt like you couldn't be yourself in the office do or say something that isn't PC next thing you know you are on EI (Canadas dole). One place I worked in for two years all of the other staff literally spent the entire lunch break in the canteen moaning and crying about Trump day in day out. Legally companies only have to give you 10 days off a year. I got 15 and was told by many I should consider myself lucky. Taxes are a disgrace I am on the same money now I was on in Canada in 2020 and in Ireland I come out with almost 4k more a year in my pocket after tax.

The winters were just awful as well 7-8 months a year of snow on average -15 or -20 degrees. I am not someone who gets depressed often but after my third winter I really started getting fed up.

Then off the top of my head some of the pluses are it is crazy how safe it is even compared to Ireland. You do have some crazy attacks (Toronto has a huge mental health problem) but wasn't like here were someone would just start a fight with you on the street for no reason. In your free time you have so much to do and so many places to go. So many shops / food places open 24 hours. For free time as a kid it would be a great place to grow up in. The weed being legal is good but the actual legal weed is shite most still buy from the black market. Living in a big city where everyone didn't know your business was also a great thing. Some other good stuff but of course I love to focus on the negative   :laugh:

I came home in 2020 now Australia is the plan this December. A lot of the stuff I mentioned could be different from you because from what I remember on the Metalireland from talking to you before I went over, you are in Quebec. If I was to go back living I think I would pick Montreal over Toronto as it was the one place in Canada that reminded of Europe.

Never been to Vancouver and have always wanted to go especially when I was over in April but thanks to Trudeau I couldn't travel on a train or plane within Canada because I am not vaccinated. And from August 31st if I am in Canada I won't be allowed leave the country in anyway if I am not vaccinated.

Personally I think if they got rid of Trudeau it would transform the country all for the better.

Going to Australia in December will be some shock to the system  - going from Canada.
Start acclimatisation around October by putting your head in the oven until you can leave it in there at 50C for a few hours. Australia is the hobs of fuckin hell in December boyo