Quote from: astfgyl on November 05, 2024, 05:49:25 PM
Quote from: Caomhaoin on November 05, 2024, 03:48:00 PMThe craic will start when whichever of them is confirmed.

There's no way either of them will let it happen too handy anyway, even if one or the other wins by a landslide.

Bullshit. Trump is not only the only one to have precedent in refusing to accept a previous election result, he's also the only one to have had his present campaign already lay the groundwork for declaring that it is only by fraud that his opponent's victory could be possible! Some of ye really just don't pay attention.

Yes he's the first to not accept the result but not the first to make accusations of cheating and even as far as Russian collusion. Don't be trying to make out the Democrats wouldn't pull every trick they could the same as trump would. Watch what happens, he'll get a taste of his own medicine if he wins and the other crowd will drag the shit out of it

#3933 November 05, 2024, 10:52:08 PM Last Edit: November 05, 2024, 11:00:20 PM by Black Shepherd Carnage
Trump beat Clinton by 304 to 227 electoral votes in 2016, though Clinton had a popular vote majority of 2.1%. She called him to concede at half two in the morning on the night of the count.

Biden not only beat Trump 306 to 232 electoral votes in 2020 but also had a popular vote majority of 4.5%. We all know what happened over the following months and has indeed kept on happening until now.

Apart from dogmatic adherence to both-sideism, there just is no basis for presuming the DNC would pull a similar "trick" as arguably the lowest point (with respect to domestic rule of law) the Republican party has stooped to since at least McCarthyism. And I say that as someone who, in 2016, actually thought that Trump wouldn't be any worse than Clinton. I have since updated those priors under the weight of what I consider staggering evidence.


John King on Cnn with the wall. He's excellent at breaking down the voting and explaining everything.  :abbath:

Seth Bluestein, a Republican official, on Trump claiming "massive CHEATING" in Philadelphia: "There is absolutely no truth to this allegation. It is yet another example of disinformation. Voting in Philadelphia has been safe and secure."
https://x.com/SethBluestein/status/1853926611495567694


#3937 November 06, 2024, 03:47:28 AM Last Edit: November 06, 2024, 05:55:13 AM by Eoin McLove
Looks like he's fairly slaughtering her but maybe she can claw it back on the west coast? Another four glorious years...

Bookies have her at 25/1. Not a good look.



Unbelievable. The Democrats are totally spasticated.

#3942 November 06, 2024, 08:00:58 AM Last Edit: November 06, 2024, 08:04:04 AM by Caomhaoin
Lookit, it's the same failed tactic as they tried with Brexit - the liberal dominated media implied that Trump voters were ill-educated redneck bible bashers who hate women and 'the negro', wheeled out the celebrities and smug academics to tell lads who to vote for. Lads kept their mouths closed until they had to put pen to paper.

It's backfired horribly.

What is more, Trump, shallow, crass and vain as he is, he's a real person. His flaws, and they are legion, are relatable to people. Harris, the career lawyer and politician, barely seems sentient - all scripted. People loved or hated Trump, they pretended to have any emotion either way about Harris, apart from being baffled by her or startled by the shrill fake laughing.

Just saw some exit poll data that shows all major demographics (by ethnicity and gender) followed their 2020 voting trends very closely, except one: Latino men shifted from giving Biden a +23 point majority in 2020 to giving Trump a +8 majority this time round.

https://x.com/NiallStanage/status/1854030085906456947

I do think you have a point in your first paragraph there. Where this election wasn't about left v right, but that a modern more radicalized left alienated the centre.

EDIT: Caomhaoin's first paragraph that is