The PC and Perpetually Offended Brigade

[Eoin McLove]

Lads, please fuck up, you're disturbing my minute's silence. Jesus. Have some respect, you nazi fucks.

[son of the Morrigan]

I second McLoves sentiment.

Its neither racist nor xenophobic to want to be surrounded by your own people in your own country.
Its perfectly normal to be wary and suspicious of large groups of foreigners moving into your locality.
The settlement,be it permanent or not, of large groups of strangers in a short period of time into an area always has,and always will,cause problems.
The Irish government are fucking insane and are in fact acting in contravention of the constitution.

[hellfire]

What part of the constitution are they in breach of Morrigan?

[astfgyl]

Dear young non-white women living in Ireland, next time you're being harassed and racially bullied by a group of teenagers for the crime of being out in public, just ignore the cunts or belt the fuckers, but either way, shut up about it, because right now we need to have a minute's silence for some teacher in Spain and the terrible toll an accusation of racism has had on him.

Stellar stuff Kev, on fire today.

They should write a book about their struggles. They could call it "my struggle"

[91/30]

I second McLoves sentiment.

Its neither racist nor xenophobic to want to be surrounded by your own people in your own country.
Its perfectly normal to be wary and suspicious of large groups of foreigners moving into your locality.
The settlement,be it permanent or not, of large groups of strangers in a short period of time into an area always has,and always will,cause problems.
The Irish government are fucking insane and are in fact acting in contravention of the constitution.

I suppose unlimited immigration could wipe out the national identity of the recipient country or part of a country.
The Irish nations historical cultural and political unity was undermined by scot protestants landed in to the fourth green field.

The open borders anarchist/liberal shite goes against the right to national self-determination. A nation means something in a tangible sense. Stalin's definition is spot on.

[Caomhaoin]

That's the goal of the globalists, to wipe out what they view as petty parochialism.

Most of the same population see it in a very different light.

[son of the Morrigan]

What part of the constitution are they in breach of Morrigan?

Well for a start article 29,section 5, part 2. it deals with international relations and basically states that in order for the state to spend our money on a matter relating to international relations there must be a Dail vote on the terms of an agreement. there are no terms(no limits placed on refugee numbers therefore no limit placed on the cost to the taxpayer) so any agreement, if there was any, is unlawful.
Don't know why a case hasn't been taken to the supreme court but the supreme court is rotten to the core in  any case.

there's a raft of other constitutional infringements relating to a failure to protect our borders and too many human rights infringements, both numerated and unenumerated to mention.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

"There's no point standing here outside the garda station, you have to go to where they're fuckin' staying and burn them fuckin' out!"

*Other protesters roar their approval.

https://twitter.com/IrlagainstFash/status/1620894170062913536


That's in Finglas last week, partially linked to wholly invented lies spread via social media that a local sexual assault had been perpetrated by an immigrant. Suspect gardai were looking for was a white Irish man. Level of disinformation being spread became an obstacle to the genuine investigation, gardai said when they had to make a fresh appeal for witnesses; not witnesses of immigrants going about their business on the night in question, but of a young white man who committed the crime these individuals are supposedly so upset at (ha!).

In this story, you get the hardcore of agitators (the pricks calling for violence); what I'll charitably call the fellow-travellers roaring their approval; the impact of the network beyond that of people who've swallowed and spat back out the lies (genuine suspect still at large, shielded by a cloud of bullshit); plus, as a bonus, you get the violence itself (in the raid on the Ashtown encampment, also partially and nominally stoked by claims of sexual assault seemingly by the same agitators). So I dunno, you may in a tantrum decide use of expressions like "hate speech" is the real problem, but it seems a pretty fitting label for "burn them fuckin' out", would you not say?

Ye can all go on about your reasonable arguments, etc., and that's fine and there's surely things to be said there, but the main point is to be asking yourself how good you are at smelling the unmistakable bang of absolute bullshit: claims expressed with concrete confidence but based on zero verifiable evidence; strangely specific and often colourful details, but again with zero verifiable evidence. Echoing that bullshit helps no one except those far right agitators, regardless of whether you believe them to be a genuine threat or not, they're still the only ones you're helping every time you spread a rumour before stopping to stick your nose a bit closer and see what it smells like.

[Ollkiller]

I used to peruse those far right pages. The amount of outright lies is off the scale. Total echo chambers. Is there actually any sane commentator/activist talking about immigration policies.

[hellfire]

I used to peruse those far right pages. The amount of outright lies is off the scale. Total echo chambers. Is there actually any sane commentator/activist talking about immigration policies.

Douglas Murray. He's not even Irish though. One of very few who don't veer off the truth in furtherance of a cause.

[astfgyl]

I don't really follow the stories of this lad or the other doing this or that because as with everything else it takes a while for the truth to out. Obviously there are stooks who will say everything bad ever is the work of immigrants but let's be fair and say people just have to smarten up about that.

[hellfire]

"There's no point standing here outside the garda station, you have to go to where they're fuckin' staying and burn them fuckin' out!"

*Other protesters roar their approval.

https://twitter.com/IrlagainstFash/status/1620894170062913536


That's in Finglas last week, partially linked to wholly invented lies spread via social media that a local sexual assault had been perpetrated by an immigrant. Suspect gardai were looking for was a white Irish man. Level of disinformation being spread became an obstacle to the genuine investigation, gardai said when they had to make a fresh appeal for witnesses; not witnesses of immigrants going about their business on the night in question, but of a young white man who committed the crime these individuals are supposedly so upset at (ha!).

In this story, you get the hardcore of agitators (the pricks calling for violence); what I'll charitably call the fellow-travellers roaring their approval; the impact of the network beyond that of people who've swallowed and spat back out the lies (genuine suspect still at large, shielded by a cloud of bullshit); plus, as a bonus, you get the violence itself (in the raid on the Ashtown encampment, also partially and nominally stoked by claims of sexual assault seemingly by the same agitators). So I dunno, you may in a tantrum decide use of expressions like "hate speech" is the real problem, but it seems a pretty fitting label for "burn them fuckin' out", would you not say?

Ye can all go on about your reasonable arguments, etc., and that's fine and there's surely things to be said there, but the main point is to be asking yourself how good you are at smelling the unmistakable bang of absolute bullshit: claims expressed with concrete confidence but based on zero verifiable evidence; strangely specific and often colourful details, but again with zero verifiable evidence. Echoing that bullshit helps no one except those far right agitators, regardless of whether you believe them to be a genuine threat or not, they're still the only ones you're helping every time you spread a rumour before stopping to stick your nose a bit closer and see what it smells like.

What if we genuinely believe that immigration is out of control and having a negative impact on the country WE live in? I've believed that EU immigration policy is dangerous and stupid for the better part of a decade without the need for affirmation from any "far-right" agitators.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Ye can all go on about your reasonable arguments, etc., and that's fine and there's surely things to be said there

[astfgyl]

https://fitzfromdublin.substack.com/p/a-total-loss-of-narrative-control

Thought this was an interesting facet of the discussion, which isn't in favour of one thing or the other but just pointing something out.

[hellfire]

The backtracking begins. Not exactly planning to do anything of consequence but the rhetoric would have been unthinkable two months ago.

Irish Examiner article