Seen Tommy Robinson has come over to join the protests apparently, bit of an odd one for all these 'Irish nationalists' to accept.

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on February 16, 2023, 03:23:45 PMHey, someone would be saying it if the political alignments of the story were switched  :laugh:

You could also say that RTE and the likes would be reporting today that a far right white racist lunatic tried to murder peaceful protesters instead of the "Man appears in court after woman hit by car at anti-immigration protest" headline they turned out. If this was someone from the other side driving into a crowd of refugee welcome protesters it would front page news for the next week and would used as justification to shut down any further protests.


Video is going around of the fella that did it with a microphone and a speaker strapped to his hip running around screaming about racists earlier in the evening. Then you also see photos later on of him being arrested. He is pretty distinctive looking so it is safe to say it is the same fella. The only lie I can see about the story is those claiming he is in his 30's I would question by the looks of this fella if he is any younger than 60.


Quote from: ldj on February 16, 2023, 05:08:10 PMSeen Tommy Robinson has come over to join the protests apparently, bit of an odd one for all these 'Irish nationalists' to accept.

No wrong he is not joining the protest he is only coming over for a few days to film the protests for some documentary he is putting together. Some people are fine with it and some are not fine with it but at the end of the day he is free to do what he wants.

Quote from: mickO))) on February 16, 2023, 05:27:57 PM
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on February 16, 2023, 03:23:45 PMHey, someone would be saying it if the political alignments of the story were switched  :laugh:

You could also say that RTE and the likes would be reporting today that a far right white racist lunatic tried to murder peaceful protesters instead of the "Man appears in court after woman hit by car at anti-immigration protest" headline they turned out. If this was someone from the other side driving into a crowd of refugee welcome protesters it would front page news for the next week and would used as justification to shut down any further protests.


Video is going around of the fella that did it with a microphone and a speaker strapped to his hip running around screaming about racists earlier in the evening. Then you also see photos later on of him being arrested. He is pretty distinctive looking so it is safe to say it is the same fella. The only lie I can see about the story is those claiming he is in his 30's I would question by the looks of this fella if he is any younger than 60.


Quote from: ldj on February 16, 2023, 05:08:10 PMSeen Tommy Robinson has come over to join the protests apparently, bit of an odd one for all these 'Irish nationalists' to accept.

No wrong he is not joining the protest he is only coming over for a few days to film the protests for some documentary he is putting together. Some people are fine with it and some are not fine with it but at the end of the day he is free to do what he wants.

Is that the lad that's been driving around in the old jeep playing his own voice?

Who's Tommy Robinson without searching him up?

And bang on about the rte headlines. They are only the government mouthpiece and nothing more. Biased as is possible without rebranding as Goebbels TV or Pravda

Quote from: astfgyl on February 16, 2023, 05:32:05 PMIs that the lad that's been driving around in the old jeep playing his own voice?

Who's Tommy Robinson without searching him up?

And bang on about the rte headlines. They are only the government mouthpiece and nothing more. Biased as is possible without rebranding as Goebbels TV or Pravda

The fella that drove into the crowd is bald on top with hair at the sides and has a big beard he basically looks like a mentally ill farmer from the 60's. I had never seen or heard of him before last night.

I don't know a lot about Tommy Robinson but he has a shady past, was in the EDL, does not like Islam and he exposed an Islamic pedophile ring in London. In any case he is a controversial figure who has already been labelled by the media so him coming over here to Ireland in any capacity that relates to these protests will do more harm than good.

I know lads that work crew with yer man. He's mental. They call him Hatchet Man cause he brought a hatchet to work once.


It's interesting how often the expression 'far right' is rolled out by the liars in charge and their useful idiots on the ground, and how infrequently one hears or reads the words 'far left'.

It's so infrequent that it almost jars and doesn't roll off the tongue anywhere near as nicely as its racist and evil counterpart. I mean, wouldn't one consider the members of the Socialist Workers Party and the hardline socialists who organise left leaning marches or protests on line, by their very nature 'far left' (I don't use the expression pejoratively)?

'Shut up racist'!

They're both buzzwords, and it comes down to your definition really but when I think of 'far' anything I think of people who are extreme or radical in their views, and I've come into contact with far more people in the last few weeks going on about 'military aged men' and immigrants all being psychopathic rapists than I think I ever have people who have extreme leftist views.

I would consider myself pretty left, taxes to be used for housing, education, education, public amenities etc. People should get taxed based on income, people should receive help based on their needs etc.

Is that far left? I don't think it's that radical or extreme.


Quote from: ldj on February 16, 2023, 07:39:35 PMThey're both buzzwords, and it comes down to your definition really but when I think of 'far' anything I think of people who are extreme or radical in their views, and I've come into contact with far more people in the last few weeks going on about 'military aged men' and immigrants all being psychopathic rapists than I think I ever have people who have extreme leftist views.

I would consider myself pretty left, taxes to be used for housing, education, education, public amenities etc. People should get taxed based on income, people should receive help based on their needs etc.

Is that far left? I don't think it's that radical or extreme.



If that's left then I'm still left leaning as it goes but I might be the far right now too  :laugh:

Quote from: open face surgery on February 16, 2023, 06:25:27 PMI know lads that work crew with yer man. He's mental. They call him Hatchet Man cause he brought a hatchet to work once.

See lads on Twitter saying he's a right header.

It is the same lad who was driving around playing his own voice in the car. Idiots come in every colour anyway

#4870 February 16, 2023, 07:48:50 PM Last Edit: February 16, 2023, 08:00:10 PM by Caomhaoin
I doubt you've come across one person who said all immigrants are psychopathic rapists, but I won't crucify you over it. Anything socialist of communal coming out of a lads mouth makes me tend to think that the person I'm speaking to has a screw loose.

That's what I'm getting at though, right wing conjures up the NF, combat 18 or Billy Wright etc. Sure we're all like that :) Socialism has killed more people than cancer but the news would have you believe it's all refugees welcome, sit in protests at Icelandic whaling stations and gay rights.

I play soccer with a lad from Norwich, so one day I asked him what his town was like.

'It's nice mate yeah, pretty chill, pretty left wing'.

I looked at him for a minute and asked him what he meant.

'You know mate progressive, not many tories about. Quite diverse and that'

He's a lovely lad so I left it even though all that shit sounds horrid to me. It's left wing though so coolaboola not a bother :)

I live in one of the areas the protests have taken place recently and I can assure you there were definite claims migrants are coming here to harm women and children.

Depends on what type of socialism really, I think what you're getting at is authoritative communism which is a very different kettle of fish to what I'd call socialism.

And communism at its most authoritative has still killed a lot less than capitalism has.

I used to hold fairly sincere socialist beliefs as a young lad, but I think most people have at some stage. It's romantic, it's Bonnie Prince Charlie and the highland charge, it's peace land and bread, it's the noble savage, the workers paradise and Che 'his granny was a Lynch from Cashel or somewhere' Guevara. The Soviet Union and the eastern bloc was beyond fascinating to me as a young lad, and still is to an extent.

The taxman, the local authority traffic offence fines cunts, WEF, The Hague, the social engineering, diversity of everything except opinions and banning lads from entering Australia for wearing an 'it's ok to be white' T Shirt would sober you up though.

Not blaming all of that on socialism mind you, but it'd cut the Percy Shelley and the Karl Marx out of you fairly fuckin' rapid.

My rule of thumb: If your politics overrides your sense of basic human morality and empathy (as in, towards all humans, regardless of race, class, or creed), you're far off centre, be that left or right.

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on February 16, 2023, 08:47:14 PMMy rule of thumb: If your politics overrides your sense of basic human morality and empathy (as in, towards all humans, regardless of race, class, or creed), you're far off centre, be that left or right.

If I hate them all equally can I still be in the centre?