Are we all fucked?

[Emphyrio]

IQ test at 5 years old and if they are below average, kill every second one. You still need heavy lifters.

A man with vision. Bualadh bos.

[astfgyl]

"Made in sizes appropriate for children" 

So do we cull the customer or the seller?

[son of the Morrigan]

I dunno, tradesmen, who would probably be associated with average (or below?) intelligence, are capable of doing very well for themselves. I'd also say a good upbringing is at least as important as a well-off upbringing to do well.

Anyone who would associate tradesmen with average or below intelligence is themselves a fucking moron.
fucking hell that's after annoying me rightly, such a stupid fucking statement.

[Emphyrio]

I dunno, tradesmen, who would probably be associated with average (or below?) intelligence, are capable of doing very well for themselves. I'd also say a good upbringing is at least as important as a well-off upbringing to do well.

Anyone who would associate tradesmen with average or below intelligence is themselves a fucking moron.
fucking hell that's after annoying me rightly, such a stupid fucking statement.

I was talking about possible perception, not that that would be my thoughts on the matter. As in the way some people see degrees/diplomas etc as the measure of someone's intellect.

[son of the Morrigan]

I dunno, tradesmen, who would probably be associated with average (or below?) intelligence, are capable of doing very well for themselves. I'd also say a good upbringing is at least as important as a well-off upbringing to do well.

Anyone who would associate tradesmen with average or below intelligence is themselves a fucking moron.
fucking hell that's after annoying me rightly, such a stupid fucking statement.

I was talking about possible perception, not that that would be my thoughts on the matter. As in the way some people see degrees/diplomas etc as the measure of someone's intellect.

Ah yeah, I got that man, wasn't suggesting you were a moron.
The idea that there are people (morons) who think like that blows my fucking mind.

[Blackout]

I dunno, tradesmen, who would probably be associated with average (or below?) intelligence, are capable of doing very well for themselves. I'd also say a good upbringing is at least as important as a well-off upbringing to do well.

Anyone who would associate tradesmen with average or below intelligence is themselves a fucking moron.
fucking hell that's after annoying me rightly, such a stupid fucking statement.

Who said tradesmen are morons?

[Kurt Cocaine]

I dunno, tradesmen, who would probably be associated with average (or below?) intelligence, are capable of doing very well for themselves. I'd also say a good upbringing is at least as important as a well-off upbringing to do well.

Anyone who would associate tradesmen with average or below intelligence is themselves a fucking moron.
fucking hell that's after annoying me rightly, such a stupid fucking statement.

Who said tradesmen are morons?

Some moron...

[Eoin McLove]

It's kids in the developed world, and their parents, doing the lion's share of the damage though, directly by their own actions and indirectly by propping up the corporations who are the real culprits. Kids in underdeveloped nations may not have much educational advantage, but they do have a minuscule carbon footprint.

I'd happily stop at the one, but you never know! Part of me reckons his world is going to be a pretty grim place, so I would prefer to pour all my energy into preparing him for what may come rather than just pro-creating willy nilly. And anyway, as I always like to remind people, the species, all species eventually, are doomed to extinction, so it's good to be grand with that too. Eat, drink, and be merry!

It's swings and roundabouts. There's no quick fix to any of it,  but I'm more convinced by the argument that says we need to drag developing countries out of poverty. Unfortunately that will most likely mean more pollution in those parts of the world until they get themselves to a standard of life where it's possible to even consider such concerns as climate change, pollution and the preservation of nature. Until then it's up to the developed world to both help speed along their development through advancements in technology and to look after the natural world too. Without getting woke about it, it is our luck and privilege to live in advanced societies where we can factor these considerations in to our daily lives, so we probably should do as much as we can. And to be fair, I think that on a societal level those shifts in focus are pretty apparent. To take one very simple and hopefully effective example, every town in Ireland seems to be letting wild flowers and grasses flourish over the past couple of years. There are sections left wild in every small town you pass through, so people are effecting change in their daily lives and with a bit of luck, this will impact positively on bee numbers.

[astfgyl]

I'm quite fond of this wild meadow style thing that is going on of late

[Kurt Cocaine]

Yep, we're fucked...

https://www.thejournal.ie/amazon-investigation-finds-items-marked-destroy-5472781-Jun2021/?section=comment#comments

[astfgyl]

Yep, we're fucked...

https://www.thejournal.ie/amazon-investigation-finds-items-marked-destroy-5472781-Jun2021/?section=comment#comments

Who would have thought there'd be a downside to rampant consumerism?

On another note, here's a story I'd never seen before, and a new potential downside to the US military occupation of Iraq.

Anyone heard of the Fallujah babies? https://theintercept.com/2019/11/25/iraq-children-birth-defects-military/ Imagine how many other things humans are getting up to with scant regard for long term consequence? We're a fuckin mad species.

[astfgyl]

Here's something that sounds suspiciously optimistic. Many words like "estimate" used, but that's how things go I suppose..

https://phys.org/news/2014-03-ninety-five-cent-world-fish-mesopelagic.html

[open face surgery]

It's from 2014. I feel that David Attenborough or one of the docs out since then would've covered it if it was fact. Just a thought.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Even if true, the conclusion is a bit like saying, "Who cares about pandas and tigers going extinct? There's shit loads of other mammals doing just great, like rats and bats!"

[astfgyl]

I said "suspiciously optimistic"!

I mean it could well turn out to be true or false due to the estimated nature of it, and perhaps it's good news for the ocean and means fuck all for humans as well. Good to read something that hints at optimism as well as the regular doom and gloom all the same. There is also the consideration that stories such as this one might convince people that our habits don't need changing, so little wonder the likes of Attenborough wouldn't highlight it too much even if it were to prove true, because there's no doubt the habits need changing!