Are we all fucked?

[astfgyl]

Good points there. The solution won't arise with the way things are going unless some sort of game changer comes along.

Maybe we can borrow our way out of it..: https://www.economist.com/content/global_debt_clock

Almost 60 Trillion. How does anyone have that much to lend and what is it guaranteed by? Now there is something unsustainable for sure. Came across it earlier and it boggled the mind

[astfgyl]

Found a class article a few days ago about AI and stuff from a lad who knew what he was saying and knew it well and I think it will be a discussion we will only have when it's too late among the populace. Just sticking this here to remind myself to dig it out of the laptop tomorrow

[astfgyl]

Here we are: https://www.wired.com/2000/04/joy-2/

It's a long read but it's good food for thought. It's also 20 years old so interesting to wonder how things have moved on since then, or not.

[astfgyl]

https://www.mic.com/p/these-6-countries-are-most-likely-to-survive-a-climate-change-caused-societal-collapse-82704326

Here's more consideration given to the idea of how fucked we might be

[The Butcher]

Greens freaking out over latest IPCC report which will spur politicians onto policies that will divide and conquer, class wars incoming. Meanwhile others will still laugh their way to islands via private jet for birthday parties.

https://www.bostonherald.com/2021/08/07/stars-arrive-on-marthas-vineyard-for-barack-obamas-pared-back-60th-birthday-party/amp/

[The Butcher]

Ok forget about climate change. Robots will doom us all ->

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tF4DML7FIWk

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Not the venue you'd normally expect to see write-ups like this:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-10104511/Climate-change-99-9-studies-agree-global-warming-mainly-caused-humans.html

[astfgyl]

What I'd like to know is what caused the other few billion years of climate change?

Wasn't humans anyway.

And the 99.9% agreement thing is just like 9 out of 10 dentists recommend whatever toothpaste they are paid to recommend.

So 99% of the scientists who haven't been censored agree with the gravy train. Good to know.

I'm all on board with cleaning up our act as a species but I'm not buying 99% of this shit. I want clean air clean food clean water. Carbon credits will not buy these things.

Look at the hypocrisy of the cop26. How are the delegates getting to the conference? By bicycle? No it's private jets and cavalcades all the way. No green pass needed either because that's only for serf class. Any reason they couldn't have done it online?

Nah me neither

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Everyone, but especially ecology activists, know that cop26, etc., are a crock of shit. There are examples from the past of dominant species causing climate change, I provided one before. Humans are now, more so than ever, the dominant species on earth. Hence, if there was a time at which humans could cause climate change, now is that time.

[astfgyl]

I don't think we have no effect. That'd be silly. I do however think that the sort of thing being done to combat this is only designed to line the right pockets and look good. Flying is bad unless one is rich. Fossil fuels are bad unless one is China etc. People are also going to have to accept that no matter what we do, climates will change anyway and we could be as good as gold and still go into an ice age or whatever the opposite is called. So clean green yes indeed but let's not kid ourselves as to how this is all going to go. Serf class all the way. I think even the lockdowns were taken as a practice run to see could people be stopped moving but I don't want to get back into all that.

Anyway if we all join the metaverse we'll be fine we won't have to go anywhere or do anything carbon production related

[Caomhaoin]

We are making a dog's mickey out of the planet, there's no doubt about that, irrespective of to what extent climate change is caused by human action.

[astfgyl]

Oh 100 percent. There's lots we could be doing not to make shit of the place and we have failed miserably so far. Sustainable production, reforestation, end of single use plastics etc will all have a price but compared to simply paying for carbon credits, those things would help. Agriculture is a big one pesticides fertilisers etc. Not against GM in principle either but we'd want to be careful to rotate crops etc. Seasonal produce and crop rotation based on stuff that grows well in the climate and so much more can be done but rather than punish the end user, the massive corporations could shave a little profit off the top and things would be doable. We're competing with human nature though it will be tough

[Caomhaoin]

I have a diesel car, drink fizzy water in plastic bottles everyday and often forget me bag for life for the shopping so as much of a prick as anyone else, but these jet setting big mouth entertainment industry arseholes, and don't even get me started on the ruling classes, these people are the worst kind of lip service hypocrites imaginable.

[Blackout]

I wonder if all of these youngsters protesting on the streets about climate changes realise the implications of enacting full bans on fossil fuels etc. Are they willing to risk mass starvation through slow production of food? Lack of technology produced by these fuels such as smart phones etc. There has to be more to the discussion  than"but muh climate change".

[Ollkiller]

I wonder if all of these youngsters protesting on the streets about climate changes realise the implications of enacting full bans on fossil fuels etc. Are they willing to risk mass starvation through slow production of food? Lack of technology produced by these fuels such as smart phones etc. There has to be more to the discussion  than"but muh climate change".

You're right. There does need to be way more discussion. But at least they're protesting about something. There is a plethora of changes we could make to enact proper change. Cunts at the top is the problem.