Best/Worst Outputs

[Anton Arcane]

I was thinking about this today and the interesting thing I found with so many bands is that it's hard to pick the best album from a long standing band, as their golden era will likely have yielded a few contenders, but likewise, it's hard to pick the worst offender once things go to shit. In most cases it seems, when the magic is gone, it's really fucking gone.

[Eoin McLove]

Imagine being Metallica, Megadeth, Anthrax etc. and being tethered to a specific style and sound that you couldn't give a flying fuck about any more. Imagine the pulling teeth process of trying to come up with riffs when everything you play is so uninspiring! When you get one good riff or section it kind of builds a momentum and energy of its own that carries the process forward, but think of poor oul Kirk listening back to seven thousand shit riffs he's recorded on his phone, scrambling for one good idea. Just one! That's not too much to ask, is it? IS IT?

[Circlepit]

Imagine what's is like for MegaDave, thinking everything he puts out is the a best thing in the world and we are just too stupid to make him bigger than Metallica.

[jobrok1]

They all had their chance to break free.

Metallica after Load/Reload.

Anthrax could have kept the Bush train rolling after getting it back on track with WCFYO.

Mustaine should have just gone solo instead of resurrecting Megadeth after his hand injury recovery.

[Mooncat]

I think the reaction to St Anger impacted Metallica so hard that they were scared back to thrash evermore. I remember the press at the time of Death Magnetic, Rick Rubin had been hired as producer (ditching Bob Rock) and he was saying in interviews that he was trying to get them back in the headspace of Master of Puppets so they could write songs that sounded like it. What a completely uninspired, uninformed bullshit piece of advice. Probably contributed to ruining them for life. Speaking of has-beens, Rick Rubin is the producer version of the washed up bands mentioned.

[Trev]

Rubin had been hired as producer (ditching Bob Rock) and he was saying in interviews that he was trying to get them back in the headspace of Master of Puppets so they could write songs that sounded like it. What a completely uninspired, uninformed bullshit piece of advice. Probably contributed to ruining them for life. Speaking of has-beens, Rick Rubin is the producer version of the washed up bands mentioned.

He did the exact same thing with Sabbath, forcing them to pretend it was 1970 again. Apparently Geezer fucking hated working with him, and a few different bands have said the same. Amazing he still gets work really

[Mooncat]

Yeah apparently he barely shows up to sessions anymore. Just rocks up once or twice, has a listen, give some direction, then fucks off again. There was a funny story about Slipknot, who were so frustrated by his absence, that they thought about cheekily listing him as something like 'assistant producer' on the album.

[Barnacle Billy]

Yeah apparently he barely shows up to sessions anymore. Just rocks up once or twice, has a listen, give some direction, then fucks off again. There was a funny story about Slipknot, who were so frustrated by his absence, that they thought about cheekily listing him as something like 'assistant producer' on the album.

They should have...

[jobrok1]

He completely lost the run of himself after doing the Johnny Cash albums.

[Giggles]

Give me any Death album over Scream Bloody Gore. Not to say that it's bad, just inferior.

[Sworntothecans]

He completely lost the run of himself after doing the Johnny Cash albums.

He never had a run to begin with, he had the carny gift of self promotion and really good engineers.

[open face surgery]

Ya, total fuckin spoofer from the getgo.

[Trev]

Flotsam & Jetsam
Best - Doomsday for the Deceiver. Not just their best, but I'd say the best debut from an 80s US thrash band

Worst - Ugly Noise

Still think it's an absolutely shit band name though

[Barnacle Billy]

Flotsam & Jetsam
Best - Doomsday for the Deceiver. Not just their best, but I'd say the best debut from an 80s US thrash band

Worst - Ugly Noise

Still think it's an absolutely shit band name though

I could think of at least.... oooh... a million worse though.

[StoutAndAle]

Speaking of has-beens, Rick Rubin is the producer version of the washed up bands mentioned.

He completely lost the run of himself after doing the Johnny Cash albums.

Ya, total fuckin spoofer from the getgo.

Henry Rollins has suggested/speculated over the years that Rick Rubin may have inadvertently been the reason that Rollins and his flatmate, Joe Cole, were held up at gunpoint outside their gaff with Cole being murdered by the thieves.

Rubin turned up at Rollins' gaff, which was in a shittier/more dangerous part of LA, to listen to a pressing of "The End Of Silence" and discuss working with Hank in the future. Rubin parked his Rolls Royce outside the house and had a conversation on a mobile phone at the porch for several minutes.

Rollins reckons that word got around after Rubin left that a rich "rock star" (Rollins) and an actor (Cole - who was nothing more than a bit player and erstwhile Rollins Ban roadie) were living in the area. Rollins even wrote in the particular day's entry of his journal that he reckoned someone in the neighbourhood was going to get the wrong idea and trouble was coming.

A few days later it all came to pass.


On that note;

Rollins Band
Best: "Weight"
Worst: "Nice" (but it does have "Whats The Matter, Man?" on it)