Ozzy RIP

[Sworntothecans]

H&M have Ozzy merch in the shops already.
No time wasted there.

They've been there for a while, probably moved stock into the stores when the web orders picked up after Tuesday.

[Circlepit]

If that's the case it makes me feel more resentment.
Each to their own and all that.

[Cailleach]

I decided to give  the albums that people generally  slate as Ozzy phoning in it a go last night.  I'd agree there is a lot of it that comes across as derivative and uninspiring, but I enjoyed some  of the songs on Black Rain.

[Ducky]

If that's the case it makes me feel more resentment.
Each to their own and all that.

I don't personally get this. Ozzy was peak corporate rock. Man's been a brand for the last three decades more than anything.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

"more than anything" = the part that's open to debate. Personally, he never became more a brand than anything else to me, and I mean that concretely too: saw him perform twice in the last three decades and at no point during those performances did I have the feeling to be at anything other than a killer rock/metal show fronted by an absolute icon 

[The Heretic]

Lets face it Ozzy got lucky. Only for he surrounded himself with superior musicians over his career he wouldn't have written one full album of decent songs, he would perhaps admit that himself too, perhaps he made his own luck? As for his antics people on drugs do stupid things, nothing new there and I'm sure loads have done worse, he himself stated that we wasn't in the same league antics wise compared to Pete Way. To me Ozzy was always a caricature, sometimes a very funny one, sometimes a sad one.

Having said all that we won't ever see the likes again, same goes for Lemmy and co, which is sad to see as that's all our life stories right there for people of a certain age.

RIP 

[Ducky]

I don't think H&M (or Penney's , or wherever) are selling his t-shirts without serious input from his brand management. Ozzfest was a travelling circus. All the chopping and changing of players, the way Kerslake and Daisley were treated, how he had to have a hotshot guitarist by his side, "The Osbornes" exists. Sure there's a discussion on this thread about most of his material from the last thirty years not being worth a fudge.

The brand was built on something of substance of course, and he was still capable of performing live, but he was an income-generating brand far longer than anything of a creative force.

[mickO)))]

Terrible loss but he did get a great send off. As big as I know he was I am surprised at some of the famous people I have seen paying tribute to him. The types of people I would have thought that would have no interest in what he did.

I was reading the night his death was announced that the chair at the show was more to do with his back being fucked from bad advice he got from a doctor on having spinal surgery than the actual Parkinson's and he wouldn't have been anywhere near as bad as he was had he not have gone through with the surgery.

Seems to be one of those rare people that very few have bad words to say about him. Everyone saves the hate for Sharon 

[Bürggermeister]

Nah, Oz wasn't lucky, I don't agree with that at all. You don't appear on at least 8 classic albums (Blizzard and Diary in here) just by being lucky. Surrounding yourself with the right people doesn't happen by accident several times. His vocals and melodies were a big part of what made Sabbath great. His onstage persona made them a live spectacle, especially with the largely unmoving Iommi beside him, and that persona carried his solo career forward even when the quality of music started to wobble. As for having a hot-shot to his left, after Sabbath, but of course, it was how to be a successful singer in rock in the 80's. Dio did it too, as did Bongiovi, Coverdale and countless other. The freedom he gave Rhoads, however, to allow him to really extend himself, compared to his mediocre Quiet Riot output, resulted in two absolute classics. He was ruthlessly managed, everything focussed on him being the star, ensured that his commercial appeal was never damaged by rotating lineups. Even after screwing Daisley, he was smart enough to keep him coming back up to the early 90's. I don't believe for a second he was the bumbling idiot often portrayed to the media. He had a say in many of contractual controversies usually laid at Sharon's feet, I've no doubt about it. He was smarter than he let on, crippling alcoholism acknowledged. His gigs were fucking great, he was a fantastic showman and knew how to work a crowd, night after night. Lucky my arse.

[Squigs]

He was lucky insofar as these things don't always pan out for people regardless of their talent, but the idea that he's the Forrest Gump of some of the most influential albums in the history of metal and music in general is comical.

[Trev]

There's always a good bit of luck involved with most successful bands. I remember reading that Iommi wasn't pushed on Ozzys vocals but he owned a PA so got the job. His voice is a bit of an acquired taste so Sabbath could have gone with someone else and Ozzy ending up a historical footnote

[Ducky]

He's a funny one in that everyone who followed him in Sabbath were technically better vocalists, but couldn't hold a candle to him.

Anyways, haven't heard "S.A.T.O." in a very long time, and forgot it was my favourite song of his.

[Uinsion]

He's a funny one in that everyone who followed him in Sabbath were technically better vocalists, but couldn't hold a candle to him.

Yes, that's prob true but he was a great show man. Saw him twice, that McGonagles gig, and on the Sabbath farewell tour in 3Arena.

Loved his solo stuff, pity that farewell tour never went ahead. RIP Ozzy.

Have to say though, for me has was always a rock star, that reality tv thing show I hated, I felt he was just being laughed at and not been seen for what he really was.

[mickO)))]

Did Sabbath only play 3 times in Ireland? I saw a date from the early 80's, one in the mid 90's and then the farewell tour? I always assumed they played here loads of times like Iron Maiden, Judas Priest etc.

[londonleatherboy]

Pity Gary Moore didn't join him for an album before Rhandy like Oz and Sharon wanted.. Would love hear what they'd have delivered..Led Clones on Moores After the War with Ozzy on vocals is class