Quote from: Born of Fire on February 28, 2025, 02:29:31 PMI've sometimes wondered if those awful remixes were the result of hearing damage suffered by Mustaine. Like how else could you sign off on such flat, lifeless sounds that sap all the power and atmosphere of the originals?!

I read an interview with COC, who were supporting Megadeth on the Youthanasia tour, where they indicated that Mustaines guitar sounds were terrible and that they attributed to him having hearing issues even that far back. It wasn't said in a nasty way either, more an observation.

He obviously can't hear himself sing either so he's probably clinically deaf at least  :laugh:

Quote from: KolD on February 28, 2025, 04:18:31 PMI got into Megadeth in 2002/2003 when I was a teenager. But alot of my mates checked them out a few years later, around 2007 or 2008 and they hated them, even though they liked Metallica, Etc. I couldnt understand why. Then I realised they were listening to the remixes and showed them to proper mixes. Turned into fans straight away, they couldnt get over how different it was.

Made me realise how many people in that generation probably weren't even aware of the original mixes. I believe for awhile the original mixes were taking off the shelves and just the remixed versions could be got. Took awhile for them to pop up on spotify too.
The original mix versions were deleted. All you can get now is the shit remasters, unless they reversed that decision at some stage. Haven't heard that, though. I'm glad I'm an old cunt 😂

Both options are up on Spotify anyway which is where lots of folks will go for them now. Glad I have to old mixes on CD.

I must check out those remixes. People have been giving out about them for a long time but I've never heard them.

You'll love the horn section in Into The Lungs Of Hell  :laugh:

Are they literally just remixed or are the drums redone, backing vocals redone etc. Someone mentioned the backing vocals on Five Magics and I had forgotten all about that.

Did Mustaine have them redone and figure out a way to pocket more money for him and wipe out the past members earning some of that money or did he actually just think the production was amazing and wanted to remix it to the new sound :laugh:

Bizarre to do that with your classic albums. Imagine Metallica or Slayer releasing South Of Heaven, Reign in Blood, Kill Em'All, Puppets etc in the new production and deleting the older ones and newer fans not knowing anything about those timeless originals. The amount of Megadeth fans I knew that literally never heard the originals :laugh:

Some of the vocals and guitars are rerecorded. The excuse at the time was that some of the original master tapes were lost or damaged, if memory serves. Less of a remix overall, they were marketed as remasters, but there's certainly different emphasis in spots that a remaster wouldn't account for on its own.

They were definitely marketed as remixed and remastered. Mustaine chose to rerecord lots of parts such as the harmonica parts from Youthanasia, the vocals on the MD.45 album and various bits of guitar and vocals elsewhere.

He also added different arrangements to the likes of the In My Darkest Hour intro.

He also raise the horn section on Into The Lungs Of He'll. I preferred them at the original volume.... where I couldn't hear/notice them!

The remixes were littered with mistakes too. I recall that on one of the youthanasia songs that the snare disappears for a verse in one of the songs. Although the shite snare sample sound he chose on the albums, maybe that was a good thing.

Quote from: The Great Cull on February 28, 2025, 08:00:56 PMYou'll love the horn section in Into The Lungs Of Hell  :laugh:

That was a shock to the system.  Was the car crash removed from 502 as well

Speaking of Megadeth, was only looking at a new vinyl copy of RIP in town the other day and was wondering whether it was the original mix or remaster, Clink and Normal were listed as the producer/mixer on the back, and no reference to any remaster on it, must pick it up if it's the og. Megadeth's back catalogue is a bit of a mess actually.

Quote from: ldj on March 01, 2025, 11:26:43 AMSpeaking of Megadeth, was only looking at a new vinyl copy of RIP in town the other day and was wondering whether it was the original mix or remaster, Clink and Normal were listed as the producer/mixer on the back, and no reference to any remaster on it, must pick it up if it's the og. Megadeth's back catalogue is a bit of a mess actually.


Check Discogs the next time you're looking in the shops.
Some of the recent pressings (last 15 years) have the og mix and some have the new one, depends on territory/license.


The replacement of the bass tapping bit in Take No Prisoners with a thin and shitty clean guitar sound is particularly jarring, but he and Jr were not speaking at the time so I put it down to Dave's pettiness than a mysteriously lost track.

This kind of ties in with the Primordial threads too, but I find that albums I loved from maybe 12-20, I have zero concept of how they could sound better. When people would love them but wish that they did x, y or z in the studio, it kind of washes over me. With more recent (15+ years is recent) I'm way more discernable about how things could be improved. So the "flaws" in The Gathering Wilderness have never even registered on my radar. That said, a Remastered Rust in Peace being my intro to that album, and then getting an original (off BSC/Chris I believe!) totally knocked my socks off. Was like being born again in Mustaines light.

Quote from: Squigs on March 01, 2025, 01:26:37 PMWas like being born again in Mustaines light.

Did you "watch him become a gawd"?😂

So does this go down as the first legendary thread of Metal Warfare? I do miss the legendary threads thread from MI  :laugh: