Where It All Turned To Shit

[Carnage]

I'll sit down and give that and Emperor Of Sand a proper go at some stage. Maiden's last one too, I've only played bits of that.

I've fallen into a pattern of buying new music but not actually listening to anything for ages. I have stacks of albums to get through and yet I repeatedly find myself going back to stuff I've had for years.

[Sworntothecans]

I still haven't listened to the last Mastodon one in full. Hard to raise the enthusiasm for it, Emperor Of Sand I found fairly dull.

Same. They dropped off after Crack The Skye for me.

[Carnage]

I like The Hunter and OMRTS but CTS was definitely their peak. The live version is awful though. I've never seen them live but anything I've heard or seen on video has been poor, particularly the vocals.

[open face surgery]

I've seen them good and bad, if my memory serves me. All the more recent ones were great. Think the gig with Slayer in Cork was bad.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Seen them poor once and blowing the roof off twice. Don't know if they've become more reliable over time, but them being hit and miss live was definitely a talking point for a long time. Gojira, whatever about the evolution of their music, were the much more powerful live act while both their stars were rising during more or less the same period.

[Skott Furys jizz rag]

Gojira have always been ridiculous live. The gig in Whelan's was insanity

[Skott Furys jizz rag]

Also re Megadeth. No. They wrote killer songs with killer drums and bass, end of.
System has failed was their last decent album though.

[Ducky]

Kick the Chair is a whopper of a tune.

[Pagan Saviour]

Mastodon are shit live. Gave them plenty of chances too, poor sound most of the time and zero charisma.

I distinctly remember the Slayer support in the Ambassador around 2005 as many on the old forum had it down as a passing of the guard so to speak, that they would blow the headliners off the stage. Utter garbage, a sound so poor I couldn't tell one track from another. Seen them again supporting Tool amongst others and was always the same craic. I heard from a few people that I needed to see them "Headline" so took myself to Vicar street at the next time of asking only to find they were down a guitarist and as bad as ever. Phenomenal really given the albums are so good.


Just while I see Megadeth mentioned I think Youthanasia is the drop off point. It's a fantastic body of work up until that record, with some undisputed thrash classics along the way. Youthanasia is the end of their natural creative journey, musically I think the band were comfortable in their own skin delivering that album. The side step into a more commercial, mature (whatever you want to call it) sound felt right. Everything after has been forced or painful. Cryptic Writings had one or two bangers but it's a mess of an album, as is Risk.  World Needs a Hero is the sound of a band that haven't a clue what they're doing, it makes the previous two records sound focussed. I don't think I've relistened to anything since Mustaine took complete control back more than a handful of times. Can anyone recall a riff from 13 for example? Don't talk to me about The Sick The Dying And The Dead, I felt like all those things listening to it.

[Don Gately]

Yes agree after Youthanasia there's nothing there. I wouldn't be a fan of their last album either.

[Skott Furys jizz rag]

Kick the Chair is a whopper of a tune.

Scorpion is no slouch either!

[Carnage]

The last one is the first of theirs that I never bothered with, and I think I only gave the previous one just the one listen. He's been treading water for decades, the last truly decent album was Rust In Peace.

[DaveG]

Cryptic Writings had one or two bangers but it's a mess of an album

Mess is the exact descriptor for it.  She-Wolf, Disintegrators, FFF, Vortex and Trust are all great tunes.  There's a couple of others that are fine but it's the sheer gap between something like She-Wolf and absolute ballix like Have Cool Will Travel.

[Pain Medicine]

I think if you took the last 6-7 Megadeth albums and compiled the best 10-12 songs you'd have a great 2000s compilation album, whereas I cannot pick out 10 great Metallica songs from the last 25 years.

[Anvil]

I can't listen to Youthanasia, never liked it and anytime I go back to it.. meh!