Up tomorrow morning to face the record store day chaos for the first time to try get a copy of Once Upon the Cross 🤞

This is pretty crazy. So clean and what a mad looking guitar. I can't imagine how long this took to learn and do in one take.


Amazing technical skill but not a single melody that would stick in your brain. It doesn't even sound evil.

#1009 April 12, 2025, 04:53:25 AM Last Edit: April 12, 2025, 07:04:36 AM by Mithrandir
Quote from: Mithrandir on April 11, 2025, 12:55:15 PMUp tomorrow morning to face the record store day chaos for the first time to try get a copy of Once Upon the Cross 🤞

Also no luck, fuck RSD.

EDIT: Nevermind, got one, but still fuck record store day. The pokemon collecting of records.

#1010 April 12, 2025, 07:27:30 AM Last Edit: April 12, 2025, 07:30:29 AM by Bürggermeister
Quote from: Mithrandir on April 12, 2025, 04:44:51 AMThis is pretty crazy. So clean and what a mad looking guitar. I can't imagine how long this took to learn and do in one take.


I had a mate who could play every Randy Rhoads solo, every Kirk Hammett solo, back in the very early 90's, when they would have been considered a very high benchmark. He was really well coordinated but he couldn't write a riff to save his life, or even create a solo which wasn't other people's licks randomly thrown together. He was fucking awful in a band situation.

This video is an impressive technical feat of coordination but the real genius is Muhammed Suiçmez writing and playing these songs and solos 20 years ago, singing while doing it too. Youtube is getting clogged with bedroom players walking in someone else's footsteps. For me, creation beats regurgitation every time.

Quote from: Mithrandir on April 11, 2025, 12:55:15 PMUp tomorrow morning to face the record store day chaos for the first time to try get a copy of Once Upon the Cross 🤞

Good luck. Pretty much the only decent thing amongst the usual rsd shite.

Eternal Idol by Sabbath is the one I want. I'll see what's left on Wednesday when I'm paid but I see Utopia in Sydney have a 2 CD version in stock so I might just grab that and play it to death in the car  8)

I have the 2CD version with both vocalists.
But have to pick up the LP re-issue as well. Will hopefully nab one in the coming weeks.

I didn't know the second CD had another singer on it. Who's the other one... Tony Martin and...?

Ray Gillen. He left shortly before the release was due so The Cat came in and copied him note for note.

Quote from: Bürggermeister on April 12, 2025, 12:47:33 PMRay Gillen. He left shortly before the release was due so The Cat came in and copied him note for note.

No way. So who is better?

Quote from: Bürggermeister on April 12, 2025, 12:47:33 PMRay Gillen. He left shortly before the release was due so The Cat came in and copied him note for note.
I kind of thought I knew all of the main points of 80s Sabbath member roller coaster absurdity. Then this comes along.

Quote from: Eoin McLove on April 12, 2025, 04:50:34 AMAmazing technical skill but not a single melody that would stick in your brain. It doesn't even sound evil.

Sure it's taken out of context from the rest of the instrumentation. For my wee lugs it's one of the most memorable albums ever recorded. I can hear every lead in me head no bothers.

Quote from: Bürggermeister on April 12, 2025, 07:27:30 AM
Quote from: Mithrandir on April 12, 2025, 04:44:51 AMThis is pretty crazy. So clean and what a mad looking guitar. I can't imagine how long this took to learn and do in one take.


I had a mate who could play every Randy Rhoads solo, every Kirk Hammett solo, back in the very early 90's, when they would have been considered a very high benchmark. He was really well coordinated but he couldn't write a riff to save his life, or even create a solo which wasn't other people's licks randomly thrown together. He was fucking awful in a band situation.

This video is an impressive technical feat of coordination but the real genius is Muhammed Suiçmez writing and playing these songs and solos 20 years ago, singing while doing it too. Youtube is getting clogged with bedroom players walking in someone else's footsteps. For me, creation beats regurgitation every time.

The "monkey see, monkey do" effect. I know one or two heads they're good at performing others' music, but don't have a clue who to compose their own.

Then one of my other friends, she's pretty capable at sitting down to a keyboard or guitar, feeling out notes and progressions, writing vocal melodies over it, etc. Basically she's good at writing songs. Same lass has fuck all theory or interest in doing covers. She's ten times the musician the other fellas are.