WHAT!!!? You're absolutely mad  :laugh:

Hai, yeah never liked the bugger at all  :laugh:

If we had a "worst second album" thread, this and Hell Awaits are cream/poop of the crop for me  :abbath:

Blaze is doing a Maiden set at Keep It True in a couple of weeks, turns out he'll be doing all of The X Factor, so I've been doing some homework. Jaysus it's a fucking slog getting through that album. You can practically hear the wheels seize up on Harris' E-C-D-E wagon, he is flat out of ideas but just grinds out a poxy song regardless 😂

Quote from: Bürggermeister on September 15, 2025, 09:08:36 PMI have to say... Number of the Beast is fucjen amazeballs all the way through. Imagine the joy of hearing it in 1982


Listening to Beast now. It's a brilliant album but I still think Killers is superior.

Quote from: Ducky on September 15, 2025, 10:46:37 PMI'd listen to The X Factor any day ahead of Killers. The latter is awful muck.

Shame on you. Leave the hall and take your Jamiroquai vinyl collection with you.

I actually like quite a bit of the X Factor but that Priest from EastEnders did mess Steve up a bit by fucking his wife. 

Quote from: Maggot Colony on September 16, 2025, 09:40:20 AM
Quote from: Ducky on September 15, 2025, 10:46:37 PMI'd listen to The X Factor any day ahead of Killers. The latter is awful muck.

Shame on you. Leave the hall and take your Jamiroquai vinyl collection with you.

My Jamiroquai collection is on the superior audio format, namelt compact disc  :abbath:

Killers is, of course excellent. My first Maiden album (chosen simply because it had the most songs, this was mid-'80s), never looked back. It's held up well, sounds great (I love the bass tone in particular). Some of their best sonhs are on there - Murders In The Rue Morgue alone is a serious statement of intent.

The X Factor is far from a great album - with the best will in the world, Bayley just didn't have the voice for it - but it is the best of the bad '90s bunch.

Quote from: Anvil on September 16, 2025, 09:57:46 AMI actually like quite a bit of the X Factor but that Priest from EastEnders did mess Steve up a bit by fucking his wife. 

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#1869 September 16, 2025, 06:35:49 PM Last Edit: September 16, 2025, 07:59:40 PM by leatherface
Quote from: Maggot Colony on September 16, 2025, 09:40:20 AM
Quote from: Ducky on September 15, 2025, 10:46:37 PMI'd listen to The X Factor any day ahead of Killers. The latter is awful muck.

Shame on you. Leave the hall and take your Jamiroquai vinyl collection with you.

Killers is a top 5 Maiden album easily. 'Muck' it certainly is not. Seems like you're being edgy for the sake of it,to each his own though.  One song on it that never gets any mention is 'Another Life', really good overlooked track. Paul Dianno RIP. If the X Factor had more songs on it like 'Man On The Edge' it would be brilliant but it's tepid at best imo. If you like it , respect.

#1870 September 19, 2025, 12:58:01 PM Last Edit: September 19, 2025, 12:59:32 PM by Cosmic_Equilibrium
I wouldn't say Killers is a bad album but I can't give it more than 7.5/10 at best. There are some amazing highs on there - title track, Wrathchild, Purgatory, Murders in the Rue Morgue, Prodigal Son (which is total Jethro Tull worship) - but there are several songs on there which are blatantly B side material. I think Harris said that the first two Maiden albums encompassed their whole repertoire up to then, and that the strongest songs mostly went on the debut and the leftovers mostly went on Killers, and it's pretty obvious when you listen to them both.

The lack of a proper epic a la Phantom Of The Opera also is an issue, had one been included I think that would make it an 8/10 album at least.

Quote from: Cosmic_Equilibrium on September 19, 2025, 12:58:01 PMI wouldn't say Killers is a bad album but I can't give it more than 7.5/10 at best. There are some amazing highs on there - title track, Wrathchild, Purgatory, Murders in the Rue Morgue, Prodigal Son (which is total Jethro Tull worship) - but there are several songs on there which are blatantly B side material. I think Harris said that the first two Maiden albums encompassed their whole repertoire up to then, and that the strongest songs mostly went on the debut and the leftovers mostly went on Killers, and it's pretty obvious when you listen to them both.

The lack of a proper epic a la Phantom Of The Opera also is an issue, had one been included I think that would make it an 8/10 album at least.

Not sure I would even give it 7.5,  particularly when you sit out alongside either the debut or Number of the Beast- both 10s.

There's two clangers on Number of The Beast. Invaders is ridiculous and never cared for Gangland. Total Eclipse should've gone on there.

Quote from: Pagan Saviour on September 19, 2025, 01:12:43 PMThere's two clangers on Number of The Beast. Invaders is ridiculous and never cared for Gangland. Total Eclipse should've gone on there.

Invaders is one of their worst songs from the 80s. Awful muck. Gangland is okay, but definitely the weakest of the rest of the album. 22 Acacia Avenue is another one I'm happy to skip.

Totally agree about Total Eclipse too,

Invaders is getting to be famously divisive on here, Love it myself
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