I don't think I've ever heard Immortally Insane.

Quote from: Ducky on January 12, 2025, 01:49:45 AM"Immortally Insane" (from the FAKK 2 soundtrack) is Pantera's best song.


It's a banger! Its on Reinventing Hell, the best of Pantera.
Don't know now if I'd go as far as saying its their best though, I've a fierce soft spot for Cemetery Gates myself.

Quote from: Ducky on January 12, 2025, 01:49:45 AM"Immortally Insane" (from the FAKK 2 soundtrack) is Pantera's best song.

It's okay but the main riff is Load-era Metallica

An interesting historic listen. Its kinda drags........ (the waters......)

I like 'Avoid the light' from the the Reinventing sessions better.

As a B-side release, I think I Can't Hide off 101 Proof is one of the best songs Pantera ever had

I'll second that 'Great Cull' rocking song.

That live album is over produced, but!!! 'I can't hide' rocks as well.

R

Quote from: The Great Cull on January 12, 2025, 02:39:33 PM
Quote from: Polaris on January 12, 2025, 01:01:34 PMIron Maiden singles are very often amongst the worst tracks off each album.

Always think that about Can I Play With Madness

Many other bands have released shite songs as singles. Sweating Bullets, Fuel and Madhouse spring to mind.

Madhouse is a cracking track!

Should've made Top of the Pops ffs!


Speaking of And Justice For All in the other thread got me thinking about how I've never been super into that album. I know people love it, but there's something about it that has never really grabbed me that I can't put my finger on. If RtL and MoP are solid 10s, AJFA hovers around a 7 for me. There's just something a little flat about it? If you forget about their 90s hard rock stuff then for me it hints at the lifeless, one dimensional thrash they've been releasing late in their career. Not that Justice is exactly like that, but it feels like kind of a mid point between the classic, living breathing thrash masterpieces that came before and the kind of dead thrash that came later.

Very brave of you to publicly post such a wrong opinion.

Quote from: Mooncat on July 29, 2025, 03:32:55 PMSpeaking of And Justice For All in the other thread got me thinking about how I've never been super into that album. I know people love it, but there's something about it that has never really grabbed me that I can't put my finger on. If RtL and MoP are solid 10s, AJFA hovers around a 7 for me. There's just something a little flat about it? If you forget about their 90s hard rock stuff then for me it hints at the lifeless, one dimensional thrash they've been releasing late in their career. Not that Justice is exactly like that, but it feels like kind of a mid point between the classic, living breathing thrash masterpieces that came before and the kind of dead thrash that came later.


Sweet lord.
RTL and MOP are like the machine gun toting cavalry, AJFA is he sniper on the hill.
Both killers, both operate differently.
AJFA is one of those albums that act as a sonic time capsule.
I remember where I was exactly when I heard it, same with Reign In Blood, Appetite etc.

Justice isn't even my favourite Metallica album but when I need that cold steel Metallica fix it's the one I reach for.

Quote from: Mooncat on July 29, 2025, 03:32:55 PMSpeaking of And Justice For All in the other thread got me thinking about how I've never been super into that album. I know people love it, but there's something about it that has never really grabbed me that I can't put my finger on. If RtL and MoP are solid 10s, AJFA hovers around a 7 for me. There's just something a little flat about it? If you forget about their 90s hard rock stuff then for me it hints at the lifeless, one dimensional thrash they've been releasing late in their career. Not that Justice is exactly like that, but it feels like kind of a mid point between the classic, living breathing thrash masterpieces that came before and the kind of dead thrash that came later.

I'm the opposite - Puppets and AJFA are 10/10, RtL is the 7. Shite ballad plus obvious filler (Escape) drag it right down.

MoP 10/10
RtL 9/10
AJFA 8.5/10

There's a real drop in authenticity in James' vocals in several places on AJFA for me, forced like.

RTL is perfect, not a bad song on it. Escape is one of my favourite Metallica songs. If I had to I'd bring MOP down to 7 - Leper Messiah is shìt and Disposable Heroes isn't much better.

The sound is definitely thin on AJFA, like it or not that drags it down. We've all grown up with it and that's simply how the album sounds, but it could sound better. A lot better. The problem is, no matter how good a job someone has done on adding bass, remixed stems, etc. it just sounds wrong as it's not what we grew up with. Same thing with altered tracklists (Maiden) or rerecorded elements (MegaDave).

Quote from: Squigs on July 29, 2025, 03:52:28 PMVery brave of you to publicly post such a wrong opinion.
:laugh:

AJFA tied with MOP for best Metallica album.

RTL is fine.  Rest of the catalog has good songs here and there but no good albums.

Seek & Destroy is one of the worst songs going and feels like it is taking years off you listening to it.  Agonising

Quote from: Mooncat on July 29, 2025, 03:32:55 PMSpeaking of And Justice For All in the other thread got me thinking about how I've never been super into that album. I know people love it, but there's something about it that has never really grabbed me that I can't put my finger on. If RtL and MoP are solid 10s, AJFA hovers around a 7 for me. There's just something a little flat about it? If you forget about their 90s hard rock stuff then for me it hints at the lifeless, one dimensional thrash they've been releasing late in their career. Not that Justice is exactly like that, but it feels like kind of a mid point between the classic, living breathing thrash masterpieces that came before and the kind of dead thrash that came later.

I agree. In places it actually sounds aimless and confused. Overall the songs come out on top, but structurally some of it sounds like it was constructed on a white board. It is littered with strange little cul de sac parts that could have been cut out. It's a flawed album, but still it overcomes its shortcomings in the end.