Fuck it anyway with the mice talk. Had to go to the attic to get the decorations down for the kids and found mouse shite everywhere. Traps all set, including the electric one. Decided to screw the others down to rafters so they don't go missing like was mentioned by others.

#5191 November 24, 2023, 07:55:51 PM Last Edit: November 24, 2023, 07:57:31 PM by astfgyl
Funny the things one never thinks of, such as that.

The lab killing I mean.

Haven't had a single mouse in my gaff in years due to having a cat and a terrier patrolling the place. I've sort of forgotten what it's like to hear the little cunts scrabbling about

It's called "sacrificing" which I've always personally interpreted as "to knowledge."

I really don't like that they have to be sacrificed though. Or even, to a certain, that they are used at all. I've only worked with rats in training a couple of times, but they're different to mice: noticeable personalities, can form a bond with a human. I know lots of researchers find sacrificing their rats pretty difficult. Nowhere near all, but it's something that's talked about a fair bit.

#5193 November 24, 2023, 09:36:28 PM Last Edit: November 24, 2023, 09:41:02 PM by astfgyl
I had a pet rat and he was like a dog. Whatever about the mice, rats have personality in spades so I can see what you mean there. Is it the same with the lab mice then as the pet rats, as in do they have a bit of personality vs the wild lads? The "sacrificing" thing has me thinking of an oul ritual getting performed before the deed, sort of like this
but with mice. Acting in that scene is class by the way.

Quote from: astfgyl on November 24, 2023, 07:55:51 PMHaven't had a single mouse in my gaff in years due to having a cat and a terrier patrolling the place.

Same. I pity any mouse that meets my cat. I've seen what she does.   :abbath:

Quote from: Ollkiller on November 24, 2023, 10:25:27 PM
Quote from: astfgyl on November 24, 2023, 07:55:51 PMHaven't had a single mouse in my gaff in years due to having a cat and a terrier patrolling the place.

Same. I pity any mouse that meets my cat. I've seen what she does.   :abbath:


It's fucking awful isn't it. The crunching sound is memorable

Well that video was an element of my Friday night I couldn't have predicted  :laugh:  :abbath: Class, nice one.

You could definitely form a bond with a mouse or two over time, but with 40 over not that much time, not really. They get what we call "habituated" to you, but you'd have to put a bit of directed effort into properly bonding with them. The study of their behavior part I loved and do miss now that I'm not doing it, but it's not that I miss being around mice: I miss observing them think. I find it a real trip.

I'm generally of the opinion that animals are as smart as we are but they just don't have thumbs. Except I've had gerbils and guinea pigs so I dunno

Quote from: astfgyl on November 24, 2023, 10:53:16 PM
Quote from: Ollkiller on November 24, 2023, 10:25:27 PM
Quote from: astfgyl on November 24, 2023, 07:55:51 PMHaven't had a single mouse in my gaff in years due to having a cat and a terrier patrolling the place.

Same. I pity any mouse that meets my cat. I've seen what she does.   :abbath:


It's fucking awful isn't it. The crunching sound is memorable

My cat used to really fuck around with them, to the point there'd be times we'd nearly be saying "ah here lad this is actually cruel, cop on a bit". But that's nature sure! At least there was never infestation issues with him on patrol.

Like when orcas toss freshly caught injured and dying seals around amongst themselves prior to eating them, which possibly serves some kind of hunting preparation exercise for younger orcas but certainly looks cruel as fuck.

I had no luck with any of the baits mentioned here, they just took the bait from the traps and I'm fucked if I'm gonna continue feeding them. I've a couple of humane traps on the way (couldn't find any locally), should hopefully have better luck with them.

Quote from: Yung Led Zeppelin on November 27, 2023, 03:25:26 PM
Quote from: astfgyl on November 24, 2023, 10:53:16 PM
Quote from: Ollkiller on November 24, 2023, 10:25:27 PM
Quote from: astfgyl on November 24, 2023, 07:55:51 PMHaven't had a single mouse in my gaff in years due to having a cat and a terrier patrolling the place.

Same. I pity any mouse that meets my cat. I've seen what she does.   :abbath:


It's fucking awful isn't it. The crunching sound is memorable

My cat used to really fuck around with them, to the point there'd be times we'd nearly be saying "ah here lad this is actually cruel, cop on a bit". But that's nature sure! At least there was never infestation issues with him on patrol.

The lad I have now is an awful man for torturing the shrews outside. I saved a few from him but they get themselves caught again straight away with the squeaking the eejits

When people reply with "why don't you just have him put down" when they hear how much I pay to help my elderly dog with his health conditions...

Been there. They just don't get it.

Quote from: Carnage on November 28, 2023, 01:06:09 PMBeen there. They just don't get it.

It really irritates me, I mean would they the same attitude with a loved one? It's not "just a dog", you're right, they just don't get it...