Both sides are wacko anyway. But Trump saying the election was rigged was the biggest crock of shit ever. And his shit stirring riled up the crowds before and on that day and his actions led to tbose consequences. Theres nothing worse than a fucking sore loser. You lost. Man the fuck up and admit defeat.

Yeah he lost. No doubt about it. There are some accusations of ballot stuffing and some dodgy looking data dumps etc as well as the dead voters and whatnot but I doubt any of that would be enough or even if it was, that republicans wouldn't be using the same tactics. I'd say they're suffering a certain amount of buyer's remorse with what they've got in Biden (he's pretty much senile) but the only way out of it is another election or the 25th amendment, not Trump getting Pence to refuse to sign off on the results, which Pence insists he could never have done in any case.

Fuck, can you imagine Biden being removed and the job going to Harris?

Back to the Maxwell thing, saw a comment yesterday saying she's the first person ever to be convicted of child trafficking to nobody. Isn't it amazing really that far more isn't being made of her client list. Might be the one thing that brings Democrats and Republicans together!

If we're talking about making mountains out of molehills, Rudy Giuliani got a slightly more aggressive than friendly slap on the back from a random detractor in a shop. The nothingness of the act was caught on camera, yet Giuliani has been saying it "felt like being hit by a boulder", "like getting shot", "he could have killed me." And this is the pathetic prick who, second only to Trump, seems to be most responsible for the lead up to and events on Jan 6th. What a pathetic prick. Him and Trump, just the worst, smallest dickheads of human beings:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_oA0t3NaA8

What a pathetic gobshyte of a man.

Remember when Giuliani called the press conference at the Four Seasons about election fraud, but it was Four Seasons Total Landscaping? That was one of the funnier tales from the bitter end of Trump's presidency. What a fuckin eejit

Quote from: astfgyl on July 01, 2022, 01:58:01 PM
Remember when Giuliani called the press conference at the Four Seasons about election fraud, but it was Four Seasons Total Landscaping? That was one of the funnier tales from the bitter end of Trump's presidency. What a fuckin eejit

Aye. Total Benny Hill comedy.

Quote from: astfgyl on June 30, 2022, 01:45:10 PM
Edit: I do think Biden is as bad as anything that was ever seen in my lifetime. He hasn't a clue what he's doing and I honestly don't think he's all there at all. Not a Trump endorsement.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGmXGkIr7w0

 
Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on July 01, 2022, 02:33:55 PM
Quote from: astfgyl on June 30, 2022, 01:45:10 PM
Edit: I do think Biden is as bad as anything that was ever seen in my lifetime. He hasn't a clue what he's doing and I honestly don't think he's all there at all. Not a Trump endorsement.

:laugh: yeah I think that's pretty much what happened there!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGmXGkIr7w0


It's so frustrating reading vice and these other hacks running this hear say shite about 'Trump in the car'. What an absolute farce. Total kangaroo court and classic media manipulation.

This uncorroborated accusation cannot be taken seriously, it's not evidence. Even if it were true, how does this prove he incited an 'insurrection'? This tit Hutchison was so outraged and couldn't possibly live with herself etc etc, she wanted to continue working for him! The defence can't argue it's case, what in the name of good Jaysus is this? Soviet show trials were less transparently unfair. Fucking charade.


Why do you bother reading Vice and the like if it frustrates you so much. I don't look at Fox. I don't read any of them tbh. Couldn't give a toss whether he took over the wheel of the car either. I'll listen or read the entered testimonies and judge for myself then.

There is a video which may yet be subjected to forensic analysis:
https://twitter.com/MikeSington/status/1542235505047117825

It doesn't prove he incited an insurrection, even if true. But if this is true from Hutchison's testimony, then what of her testimony that he knew his supporters were armed and wanted them to get through anyway? Plus all the rest she's testified to.

Didn't she go work for him at Mar-a-lago after he left office? Anyway, I think it all sounds like bullshit but we shall have to wait and see.

Also, I wouldn't recommended reading the opposite of whatever your views are in the likes of vice or breitbart or whatever because those outlets are so partisan you'll never get anything unbiased from any of them.

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on July 02, 2022, 02:32:54 PM
There is a video which may yet be subjected to forensic analysis:
https://twitter.com/MikeSington/status/1542235505047117825

It doesn't prove he incited an insurrection, even if true. But if this is true from Hutchison's testimony, then what of her testimony that he knew his supporters were armed and wanted them to get through anyway? Plus all the rest she's testified to.

Didn't she say he was in 'the beast', not whatever ladyjeep that is?

Hearsay is not admissible in court, and that's all this is. Hearsay contradicted by the hearsayer. Laughable.


It's not court, it's a hearing. She reported that "Tony" mentioned the beast. Tony may be the one who made the error, perhaps merely a slip of the tongue.