The Donald vs Big Tech

[Caomhaoin]

I know it's a hearing, but it has all the hallmarks of a kangaroo court. The point is, she is testifying under oath that Tony said this, and Tony said that which is totally useless and would be inadmissible in court. Even you must have your reservations about their veracity of this guff.

Cheney and Pelosi know they are being made to look more foolish with each passing day, and this BOMBSHELL NEW SURPRISE WITNESS is, putting it politely, a scramble defence.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

She is testifying under oath which means that whatever she says is now bounced higher up for someone else to either confirm or deny... under oath. That is not totally useless. Of course I have my reservations about the veracity of what she has testified to being told, as should everyone (of course, the media are being eejits as per usual... but see above re Giuliani, Trump's erstwhile hand chosen right hand man, regarding eejitry in abundance everywhere you fucking look). But the fact she is doing so under oath has much more meaning than you seem to realize. It doesn't mean it's true, but it puts a massive burden on those who were direct witnesses. If it's all just a scramble defense, as you suggest, then the stakes are huge. Who will see and/or raise them?

[Caomhaoin]

How often have you heard FBI agents and others get up and lie through there teeth in such hearings? She testified under oath, therefore it's irrefutable evidence as the media claim? That is so unbelievably handicapped.

The hearing itself is a partisan witch-hunt, nigh on a conspiracy. This Hutchison is swearing under oath? Firstly, she can't be cross examined, no counter arguments can be made so therefore the mass manipulation tactics of the left go into overdrive. Even though this BOMBSHELL only comes to light 18 months later from a nobody aide who wasn't even there? And in a car in which it wouldn't have been possible? Oh yeah slip of the tongue/ she misspoke. Ha ha, what a total gimp show.

In any case, what does this 'prove'? Hearsay testimony that he threw his lunch at the wall, he's so angry! He must have 'incited insurrection'.

I mean Jesus fucking Christ (sorry Jesus), give me a break.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

It wouldn't have been possible in the Beast, but as you've pointed out, that part is an error. The video seems to show it is in a SUV and that it is evidently possible. Someone is going to have to step up under oath and deny all of this. Not just the car, but most notably also the disregard for armed supporters. You really don't seem to get what's going on. Of course Hutchison could be lying. But is she? Well, let someone with better testimony shit (under oath) or get off the pot. Pretty fucking damn straightforward to do if it's all bullshit: there were identified people in that SUV, coordinating the security checks for weapons, etc., etc., etc. Let's wait and hear from them. That's the point!

[Caomhaoin]

I understand perfectly what's going on, but the difference is you seem to consider this hearing as non-partisan and fair (it is neither), and this BOMBSHELL to be relevant or of some importance, which it isn't.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

True or false, it's of importance, no? Or even if true, you don't think the weapons thing in particular isn't important?

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

6 dead and 24 hospitalized after mass shooting during 4th July parade in affluent area of Illinois with a high Jewish population. Shooter said to be between 18-20. Possibility area was targeted because of Jewish population already being considered.

Nowt more American for Independence Day!

[open face surgery]

Potentially just the first of the day.

[Caomhaoin]

6 dead and 24 hospitalized after mass shooting during 4th July parade in affluent area of Illinois with a high Jewish population. Shooter said to be between 18-20. Possibility area was targeted because of Jewish population already being considered.

Nowt more American for Independence Day!

Simmer down there with the conspiracy theories. It's an almost entirely white area and he was firing a rifle at a crowd from a rooftop. Even the meanest of intellects could deduce that that would be an idiotic way to shoot up jews or any other group.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Just relaying what was being communicated at the time. The place where it happened introduced a local ban on sale and ownership of assault rifles a while ago. With NRA discourse the way it is, that "bold" move could also have been a motivation. Who fucking knows. It's certainly not a conspiracy theory at this stage in the game to presume, awaiting verification, that the shooter was motivated by one of the common checkbox points young white male mass shooters are generally motivated by, which includes Jews.

[Caomhaoin]

Maybe, but what kind of self respecting anti-semite would shoot up a crowd knowing most of his victims would be 'aryans', hoping he might, by pure chance, hit a Jew or two?

Not for me, Jeff.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Anders Breivik killed plenty of white Norwegians yet was a right-wing Islamophobe, whose gripe with Norwegians was that they were brainwashed by cultural Marxism (as per his manifesto). We may have our disagreements Kev, but I'm happy to report that you're not very good at getting inside the head of a psychopath and getting a feel for the kinds of objectively batshit crazy logic they can string together in a way that seems perfectly rational to them. This shooting may have nothing to do with Jews or white supremacy of any kind, but the killing of white people is no reason to presume that.

[Caomhaoin]

We'll have to wait and see what the cunt says to the law.  There is a tik tok of him which would lead you one question his mental well-being.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Potentially just the first of the day.

Reading one article here that mentions there were 11 mass shootings (4 or more people shot or killed, not including the shooter) in the US over the holiday weekend.

[open face surgery]

Always relevant:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1mlCPMYtPk