The Donald vs Big Tech

[Ollkiller]

Looking like another 4 years.

Michigan and Wisconsin back in play.

What happened there? Postal votes? Still very close.

Predominately mail in ballots left and in large suburban areas have the Biden comeback.

[Ollkiller]

Looking like another 4 years.

Michigan and Wisconsin back in play.

What happened there? Postal votes? Still very close.

Predominately mail in ballots left and in large suburban areas have the Biden comeback. Biden up 11000 in Wisconsin and slighty down in Michigan but has crawled back a bit deficit and might overtake.

[Ollkiller]

Biden currently leading Pennsylvania in absentee ballots 78 to 21. And with that Pennsylvania is back in play. That was unthinkable a few hours ago.

[Cailleach]

So it's looking like Biden will get over the line, but Democrats will be disappointed they are not going to control the senate.
Donald will concede defeat graciously

[Kunt 4 Life]

If Biden wins it'll be by the skin of his teeth, and considering the polls were saying Trump was for getting raped on election day.

[Nazgûl]

Whatever way it ends up it's safe to say those polls aren't really worth a shite in predicting outcomes.

[Kurt Cocaine]

Doesn't help that the media is biased as fuck and cherry picks the opinion polls in the lead up. It was the same last time.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Doesn't help that the media is biased as fuck and cherry picks the opinion polls in the lead up. It was the same last time.

Aye, but in classic the Oracle from the Matrix style, we have to wonder what effect the polls themselves have; tbh, I think Democrat and Liberal over-confidence and condescension has played a big role here, and skewing opinion polls plays its part in that.

Ollkiller, where you following the results? I'd have thought the NYT would have been frothing at the mouth to declare any blue advances, but I don't seem yet to be seeing what you're seeing.

[astfgyl]

I'm following it along here and it's as convoluted as fuck, whoever wins. So far it looks like no-one has a clue anyway.

Edit: I will say it looks extremely fishy that all the newly counted ballots are for Biden. Looks, not saying is, but certainly gives Trump ammo for calling fix.

[Kurt Cocaine]

If they both lose can we send them Varadkar?

[Ollkiller]

Doesn't help that the media is biased as fuck and cherry picks the opinion polls in the lead up. It was the same last time.

Aye, but in classic the Oracle from the Matrix style, we have to wonder what effect the polls themselves have; tbh, I think Democrat and Liberal over-confidence and condescension has played a big role here, and skewing opinion polls plays its part in that.

Ollkiller, where you following the results? I'd have thought the NYT would have been frothing at the mouth to declare any blue advances, but I don't seem yet to be seeing what you're seeing.

CNN. Amazing breakdown of the electoral counties in each state.  I've checked our fox, the hill and abc news but CNN analysis I found the best to see where votes are going to come from.

[The Butcher]

Yeah the handling of the pandemic lost him a lot of votes along the way...the high turnout points to him not winning but all depends on 5 states - Pennsylvania, Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin and Florida...potential for Biden to get the highest popular vote ever and still lose the electoral college...in for a mad week regardless.

I thought the CNN exit poll showing a 50/50 split in the handling of the pandemic meant this was going to be a tighter race. It still boiled down to the above states. Florida showed that the higher turnout didn't actually mean a "Blue wave", "biden landslide" nonsense we saw from poll after poll...which had double the leads of Clinton and still got it wrong. Biden might not even need PA with AZ,MI,WI and NV in his hands now.

GOP keeps the senate, Biden won't get much done with that, lame duck scenario. The tight win for Biden (unless something magical happens now) might cause problems, esp if Trump does not play ball.

How inspiring the democrats have been by picking a man who will be 78 when sworn in. Listened to him on the campaign trail...inane stories, no policies...just "I'm not Trump" statements. A very poor election. Demographics in the US show certain sections of republican voters getting pushed aside and swamped out...for the democrats they don't really need to build up a candidate to tackle the reasons why Trump got voted in in the first place which they could have done in the past 4 years..you could argue even since Obama...they just need to wait..no heavy lifting needed, let the GOP make the changes required. Woeful.

[Ollkiller]

All the states that were battleground that went red earlier on counted mail in first. So Biden way ahead but Trump overtook with the election day ballot. The last few we see now are all mail in ballots. Every election day vote has already been counted. So we're seeing the reverse of the earlier states.

[astfgyl]

If they both lose can we send them Varadkar?

We could probably send them the entire grand coalition and all of the opposition parties and still end up in shit, given a couple of years. Would still send them though.

[Yung Led Zeppelin]

I'm following it along here and it's as convoluted as fuck, whoever wins. So far it looks like no-one has a clue anyway.

Edit: I will say it looks extremely fishy that all the newly counted ballots are for Biden. Looks, not saying is, but certainly gives Trump ammo for calling fix.

It only gives him ammo in a superficial sense really, I don't think there's anything fishy about it.

This is not a normal election, with the pandemic. It makes sense that people would be opting for the postal vote more than usual, to avoid crowds. Unfortunately it seems the pandemic in general has become a partisan issue among voters, one which seems to skew more towards Trump voters being less likely to be as concerned with precautions.

That's how it appears to me anyway. I spose that's still ammo, but it wouldn't be the first election that things have changed as the counts progressed, not by a long shot. It's close as fuck at the moment though. Main thing is it's not done yet.