#makejohnnykingagain

Been on CNN allday as well.

Quote from: astfgyl on November 04, 2020, 06:51:59 PM
Be pretty funny if he still won but it is looking increasingly unlikely. How much is the republican-led senate likely to hamper Biden's policies going forward? Will it be the case that he wins but can get fuck all done?

I guess it makes sense that the mail votes would favour Biden but the landslide of them is something to behold. Trump's twitter page is also something to behold. I wonder also what significance there is in Trump getting Coney-Barrett into the supreme court when he did. I don't give a lot of time reading too deep into the machinations of US politics but some of ye lads here might be able to shed some light on some of that.

It's entertaining at least.

Yes. She was rushed in because Mitch thought the Democrats were going to take over the senate. As you say Biden won't be able to get a lot done. They'll be glad to win of course, but must be disappointed that it was so close rather the landslide polls had suggested. I  have to admit i was wrong,  i thought the majority of Trump supporters would not be shy about letting it be known they were for Donnie, but it appears in fact that many were

It's an election. It's always fairly close and whatever happens a Republican will be back in another few years, then a democrat, then a republican. This idea that people were going to swing dramatically in the space of 4 years of absolute pie in the sky stuff and shows a complete lack of understanding of how politics works, how people vote, but sure that doesn't keep us all glued to websites and news channels constantly. Yes some states swung, many didn't. There's no landslide taking place.

Trump was a total landmine to the system. They've done literally everything now, thrown all their efforts behind shutting down the dissent and the public outrage that brought him in in the first place. If I was truly being cynical I would wonder if a huge amount of the social unrest that occurred in the last year wasn't 'orchestrated' to a degree to turn voters' attentions away from the very issues that led them to voting Trump in the first place. So, after 4 years, it's back to square one again. The same regime, the same ideas, the same issues. Are we going to see another Trump figure emerge from the woodwork in 4 years time once people realise these things? I certainly wouldn't rule it out.

Quote from: Pedrito on November 04, 2020, 09:29:34 PM
It's an election. It's always fairly close and whatever happens a Republican will be back in another few years, then a democrat, then a republican. This idea that people were going to swing dramatically in the space of 4 years of absolute pie in the sky stuff and shows a complete lack of understanding of how politics works, how people vote, but sure that doesn't keep us all glued to websites and news channels constantly. Yes some states swung, many didn't. There's no landslide taking place.

Trump was a total landmine to the system. They've done literally everything now, thrown all their efforts behind shutting down the dissent and the public outrage that brought him in in the first place. If I was truly being cynical I would wonder if a huge amount of the social unrest that occurred in the last year wasn't 'orchestrated' to a degree to turn voters' attentions away from the very issues that led them to voting Trump in the first place. So, after 4 years, it's back to square one again. The same regime, the same ideas, the same issues. Are we going to see another Trump figure emerge from the woodwork in 4 years time once people realise these things? I certainly wouldn't rule it out. . Honestly h

Had often thought that the social unrest was curated somewhat but had always considered it to be to the benefit of one side or the other but hadn't looked at it as a pure distraction. Good spot.

First wee manifest ripples of potential result protest, stemming from Trump's (intentionally, can I go that far?) misleading communication regarding late counting of ballots:
https://twitter.com/annalise_frank/status/1324079313176678402

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on November 04, 2020, 10:17:42 PM
First wee manifest ripples of potential result protest, stemming from Trump's (intentionally, can I go that far?) misleading communication regarding late counting of ballots:
https://twitter.com/annalise_frank/status/1324079313176678402

This beauty from the responses: https://twitter.com/ChadLivengood/status/1324086542432874497/photo/1

Whatever the outcome, one of the fuckers was going to contest it.

Can we all imagine the sort of Cambridge Analytica shit that has been going on in the run up to this election, and also imagine how much of that has been augmented reality style shit where real life has been groomed by whichever side of the US elections outbid which influencers through whichever aggregator? Sick and frightening, and to think that the fact we are all connected means that the ripples spread to all corners of the world with immediate effect makes it even sicker and even more frightening.

Why do Americans care so much about who is president?
Is it like this in other countries when there is an election?

Quote from: blessed1 on November 04, 2020, 10:29:52 PM
Why do Americans care so much about who is president?
Is it like this in other countries when there is an election?
Yeah it is.

So, as it stands, if Biden really does already have Arizona, and if Alaska does go to Trump - as presumed, then Trump needs to win all remaining four other states (Pennsylvania, Nevada, North Carolina, Georgia) to win. Biden would win with any one of them, with Nevada or Pennsylvania probably the most likely bets, but Trump's lead in Georgia apparently narrowing...presumably because of fraud  :P :abbath:

#1524 November 05, 2020, 07:16:23 AM Last Edit: November 05, 2020, 07:32:42 AM by Nazgûl
The president, calling for vote counts to be stopped, under absolutely no grounds. And the protesters outside shouting "stop counting votes!". Dickheads. Wondering why he isn't getting any mail in ballot votes and calling it suspicious after he told people NOT to use them in the previous weeks. He's like a big overgrown child.   ::)

It'll be a sad day seeing him go from the White House. He brought a level of class, decorum and a sense of reassurance to American politics which we won't see again for a long time.

Once he's out, presuming at this stage that that's what's going to happen, I predict the Republican party will drop him like a hot potato.

Quote from: Eoin McLove on November 05, 2020, 07:50:07 AM
It'll be a sad day seeing him go from the White House. He brought a level of class, decorum and a sense of reassurance to American politics which we won't see again for a long time.
Amen brother....

But ♥️Big Donnie ain't going nowhere.


https://youtu.be/VcjzHMhBtf0


If the Republicans had any smarts(which they don't) they'd have a young, intelligent, leaning towards centre, female candidate lined up for the next election. This return to the status quo could easily die on it's arse after 4 years, especially with Biden at the helm and unless he revolutionises the economy amongst other issues, things won't be settling down anytime soon.

The Trump hysteria painted over all the cracks and took the attention away from why he was elected in the first place, his hubris leading to his downfall. Even so, and taking into account what a polarising figure he was, and all the spew that was directed at him, he still comes away with a close fought election loss, where most experts were talking him taking an awful hit.

Ivanka Trump the first female president of the United States? I wonder what odds I'd get on that.