Quote from: Shitstirrer on January 25, 2023, 02:23:54 PM
Quote from: Necro Red on December 17, 2022, 07:36:37 PM
Quote from: livingabortion on December 08, 2022, 12:19:16 AMGreat band but Alan Averill is Irish Metal's Bono  :laugh:
I can't wait for his autobiography
from what i heard you  wont have to wait long
ah no ha ha ha. I was only messing

I see Primordial have pulled out of Hammerfest,sounds like its not the first time HF have tried to screw a band over!

I don't know what it is about the genre and sham festivals. Manorfest was similar last year right? And just thinking, that Clang farce finally went quietly into the night recently enough. Maybe worthy of a topic in itself, we've had a decent amount of half-cooked hair brained festivals on this island too, Philfest and Mysterious Wounds spring to mind but I'm sure there were many many more.........

Sometimes I look at these lineups and wonder how the fuck a "promotor" would ever think their costs would be covered, then you've the aftermath like with Overkill last year having to cancel a tour because Manorfest was pulled.

Did Clang happen, that was Coroner and Candlemass, wasn't it?

No, never happened. It was an obnoxious proposition to begin with, I think the craziest aspect was they dug in and kept rescheduling it with different bands when they could've easily just cancelled once things went south with the pandemic - easy out. I mean they must've sold fuck all tickets.

The treatment of the Irish bands was ridiculous too, I know two of the bands that were on the initial bill and it was $200 fee for all bands + beer etc then after several rejigs he said he was cutting the Irish acts altogether only to replace them with different ones. Can only imagine what went on with the headliners. It was cancelled late last year I think but it was done very very quietly.

Was that Clang fest ment to be in the middle of nowhere too?;or am I thinking of another fest?

Looks like loads of bands have pulled out of Hammerfest!,not just Primordial.

Clang was to be in the National Concert Hall, if memory serves. You might be thinking of the Iron Mountain Fest.

Looks like they're dropping like flies...


Clang was to be in the National Arena not the NCH


#235 March 11, 2023, 04:31:46 AM Last Edit: March 11, 2023, 04:34:30 AM by Eoin McLove
Primordial are/were recently in the studio recording a new album and I'm actually anticipating it a lot after the surprising creative success of Exile Amongst the Ruins. It's slightly mind boggling to think that it has been five years since that album came out. How??? In anticipation of the new album I fired on Exile earlier and it really holds up with time. Arguably incoherent in terms of style, it kind of veers all over the place, but the songs are all so good it works in spite of that fact.  I'm sure I'm not the only one who would love to hear a regressive album from Primordial, something that harkens back to the dark majesty of Spirit the Earth Aflame for example, but let's be realistic, that's never going to happen. That said, I'm hoping for something moody, dark and interesting and with the amount of ideas they managed to pump into Exile, who knows, they may well surprise us again.

He said on the last podcast that they are trying to get back to that style.
Apparently the band don't want his lyrics to follow the same vein as the last few, they want something to deal with the mythology.
How they do it remains to be seen.
Hopefully it will be new and not a retread.

Sounds good to me. The geopolitics is kind of boring at this stage. He got away from that on Exile and, actually, something I noticed while listening again today was something that had been discussed earlier in the thread. A lot of the clean vocal parts on Exile were less gravelly than the previous several albums and kind of had more in common with his old style of singing.

It feels like after To The Nameless when they hit the bigger stages he adopted a role of a bigger headline frontman role.
There is a lot of music that and I imagine he has to fill it with something over just standing there.
That big singing woah oh style took more of a role as well.
From all he has said we could be in for something special.
I'm sure I am miles off but I hope not.
The riffs have to be there as well.
Please let there be riffs.

#239 April 04, 2023, 08:30:29 AM Last Edit: April 04, 2023, 09:08:58 AM by Eoin McLove
I stuck on Where Greater Men Have Fallen here for the first time in years. I only have this and Redemption on vinyl. I was never bothered buying the CD of either as they never did a lot for me but maybe a reassessment nine years on will alter my opinion of this one. Redemption remains a write off. Oh, I love the artwork. Pity they didn't use this on the next album which is so much better musically but visually dull.

The title track is a cracking opener- a real first in the air live ripper.

Babel's Tower is a trudge for me. The vocal melodies (if you could call them that) are tuneless and hard on the ear. I like the noodly guitar bit at the end though.

Come the Flood on now. Again, for me the vocals fall flat in the verses. The chorus is decent in an understated way, but the plodding music is hard to get thrilled by.

The Seed of Tyrants (the song titles have become a bit of an interchangeable blur across the last few albums) is off to a good start. High energy and reminiscent of Heretic's Age from the mighty Calm Before Storm. I like Alan's gruff vocals here. Not overly concerning himself with melody, rather letting a bit of aggression come back in. Not a classic, but decent.

Ghosts of the Charnel House. This is alright. Kind of hinted at some of the hard rock inspired parts that they did more convincingly on the next album. Not bad but not exactly brilliant.

The Alchemist's Head. Easily the best song the band has written in several long years. Beats everything else here and smashes everything on Redemption too. So dark, ominous, vicious, unpredictable and exciting with a blood curdling vocal attack that has been missing far too long. A cool evocative title for a cool evocative song. I would love the next album to have more of this type of thing.

Born to Night. I can't remember anything about this song but the intro is working for me. Solitary atmospheric guitar playing reminiscent of The Hosting of the Sidhe. I always liked the instrumental songs on the old albums... It has just gotten heavy and the riff is fucking good! Oh wait, this is the Black Rose one. The obvious nod to Thin Lizzy kind of takes the wind out of its sails; they should have built on their own cool opening heavy riff maybe. Not a bad old dittie despite the homage.

Wield Lightning to Split the Sun. Typical Primordial style with that swinging rhythm they are fond of, but more energetic than a couple of the earlier efforts of the album. Alan's vocals are good here too. Pitched more in the mid range to lower range which gives the ears a break from the high pitched yodelling. A good ending.

Far better than Redemption overall but at the time it hadn't enough positives to get me excited. I felt I was done with Primordial but then Exile Amongst the Ruins kicked my hoop. This is definitely better than I remembered even if it shows a band not entirely out of the doldrums.