Coronavirus

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

No.

That was an invitation for anyone else to think about it. Everyone knows how I feel about it.

Have you thought about why they felt safe enough to attend?

I don't really see that it's of any importance why they felt safe enough to attend. I mean, why did meat packing factories think it was safe enough for their workers to keep working on top of each other? You're driving at it meaning something; I'd be more in the meaningless camp. They're humans; there was a thing they wanted to do, so they did it and to hell with the consequences, whether those be medical or political in nature.

[Pedrito]

The whole thing is a colossal fuck up really. There's plenty questions to be asked about the approaches taken but it's difficult to get those questions taken seriously as the conspiracy retards have taken so much credibility away from that side of the argument.

In short, yes. And Pedrito made a similar point with his "rudderless" comment. Scrabbling, opportunism, fucking up, scrabbling, opportunism, fucking up, scrabbling, opportunism, fucking up...the standard politicycle.

That's it in a nutshell. And they won't poke their head above the parapet and challenge the status quo because they're worried about the reaction. Has noone got the guts? I'd be surprised if the Healy Rae's haven't kicked up a stink? Oul Jackie came to my grandfather's funeral in Killarney even though my grandfather couldn't stand the lad. Had the hair painted on and fair play he shook my hand and looked awful cut up about it all. Someone needs to fire a shot.

[astfgyl]

Ah fair enough. I can get on board with that.

Remember how in the late 00s it came out about the developers and the whip arounds and the brown envelopes? While the rest of us had to take the brunt of the squeeze.

Here we are again but multiply it by the hundreds.

The cunts that took the envelopes were not thinking it would lead to what it did but the immediate gains were such that they also didn't give a flying fuck, safe in the knowledge that if it did go tits up, they wouldn't be the ones paying for it.

It's easy say it's all rudderless but it isn't.  It's easy say it's all conspiracy theories but it isn't. Some of all sides is pure unadulterated bollix but if one wishes to follow the money the answers are there. How much is testing worth? How much are the vaccines worth? How much is the mask industry worth?

Nothing ever changes in any meaningful way that would improve things for joe soap, which happens to be my real name.

[astfgyl]

No.

That was an invitation for anyone else to think about it. Everyone knows how I feel about it.

Have you thought about why they felt safe enough to attend?

I don't really see that it's of any importance why they felt safe enough to attend. I mean, why did meat packing factories think it was safe enough for their workers to keep working on top of each other? You're driving at it meaning something; I'd be more in the meaningless camp. They're humans; there was a thing they wanted to do, so they did it and to hell with the consequences, whether those be medical or political in nature.

Because they could use the evidence of their eyes and ears and they decided that they could do it at a level of risk that was negligible.

Edit: meat factories didn't give a fuck if it was safe for the workers or not as long as they did the work. Heard of Larry Goodman at all? Have a squint at his connections and you will have the answer to the meat factory conundrum.

[astfgyl]

Another question...

Who here can honestly say that they have abided by all of the recommendations that are currently in place, and if so, are you also blind and deaf?

Yes it will be crickets now that a certain someone has given up wishing I'd catch it and fuck off for good.

[Pedrito]

 

You're only torturing yourself trying to find logic in any of this. There is no logic. They're fukin spas the lot of them, inventing shit as they go along, excel files and folders and conference calls, parroting eachother about vaccines and approaches and about 1 in every 200 of them has any real clue as to what they're talking about. It's the same oul Celtic Tiger bullshite and where I am in Spain is no better. Just dragging the arse out of it and making sure they don't get tarred by the media in the process.

[astfgyl]

The only logic in this is profit, be it monetary or otherwise.

The rest of it will come out and we will collectively puke.

Don't let the profiteers off the hook by thinking that they don't know what they are doing.

Also, pooled testing is worth a few minutes of everybody's time if you feel curious.

[astfgyl]

Ok lads, some info if you know anyone who needs help.

https://www.newstalk.com/news/what-to-do-if-a-loved-falls-down-the-conspiracy-theory-rabbit-hole-1159673

[Kurt Cocaine]

Ok lads, some info if you know anyone who needs help.

https://www.newstalk.com/news/what-to-do-if-a-loved-falls-down-the-conspiracy-theory-rabbit-hole-1159673

From that article....

"We have been working, really for the last year and a half, on addressing misinformation which we saw coming up in our local areas, first attached to racism and anti-immigrant hate but then moving towards COVID as the virus and the lockdowns took hold, taking a grip on people's anxieties and their isolation," she said.
Change a couple of words around and that's the government and the media we're talking about.


Dr Michael said the people behind the misinformation "know exactly what they are doing" and are well-funded from abroad.

"Many of them are making a career out of this," she said. "They are making money out of this.

"Some of those far-right activists even have online merchandise shops. This is absolutely about a career and they are being funded very, very heavily from abroad to have this agenda."
Again, this is exactly what the governments and media are at.
Thankfully the gawd fearing public are beginning to see through this absolute horseshit and are finally waking up.
I'm praying that the weather around St Patty's Day is glorious and absolutely everybody hits the beaches, mountains and countryside.
Sweep these gawd awful restrictions away and later in the year hopefully have another referendum to get those FF/FG cartel out on their ear.

[Eoin McLove]

You're only torturing yourself trying to find logic in any of this. There is no logic. They're fukin spas the lot of them, inventing shit as they go along, excel files and folders and conference calls, parroting eachother about vaccines and approaches and about 1 in every 200 of them has any real clue as to what they're talking about. It's the same oul Celtic Tiger bullshite and where I am in Spain is no better. Just dragging the arse out of it and making sure they don't get tarred by the media in the process.

I couldn't help imagining a Covid season of The Thick of It while reading this 

[Nazgûl]

 

[open face surgery]

You're only torturing yourself trying to find logic in any of this. There is no logic. They're fukin spas the lot of them, inventing shit as they go along, excel files and folders and conference calls, parroting eachother about vaccines and approaches and about 1 in every 200 of them has any real clue as to what they're talking about. It's the same oul Celtic Tiger bullshite and where I am in Spain is no better. Just dragging the arse out of it and making sure they don't get tarred by the media in the process.

I couldn't help imagining a Covid season of The Thick of It while reading this 

Would love more of TTOI. Between Brexit and Covid it nearly writes itself.

[Carnage]

Never took to that, for whatever reason. Yer man's insults were top notch but I found some of the improvisational end of it quite strained. I realise I'm in the minority there.

[Nazgûl]

Ah it was all about Malcolm Tucker to be fair.

[Ollkiller]

Ah it was all about Malcolm Tucker to be fair.

Yes and no. The supporting cast was fantastic. Lord Julius Nicholson or the Scot Malcolm Tucker. Gas craic