If I totted up the mortgage, the loan I got out to get married, the several credit cards I have balances on etc and set them off against my savings it would make grim enough reading, but isn't everyone in the same boat to some extent, on a personal level?

My auld lads business tanked a few years ago, and apart from less money, it's what he perceives as the humiliation of going back into the workforce as an employee rather than being the Big Mickey that rankled with him.

Not to labour the 'underlying condition' cliché, but I think drastic things like suicide in most cases would involve one.

Quote from: Ollkiller on March 03, 2021, 12:31:05 PM
Quote from: Blackout on March 03, 2021, 12:14:44 PM
Just heard of a company owner committing suicide yesterday who had been dealing with redundancies due to this wretched pandemic. He left 2 young kids. Imagine the pressure he felt to do that.

Old boss I worked for hung himself after the 2008 crash. Got heavy into property at the wrong time. And left kids behind. But he suffered from depression. And I'm going out on a limb here but we don't know the full story of the company owner. A few years ago I was in a lot of debt but I'd never contemplate suicide because of debts. Maybe some people do, why I can't fathom. I just can't see it just been because of redundancies, but I could be totally wrong.

Most people are vulnerable to depression, just depends on how much pressure or unfortunate circumstances need to be applied.  A lot of people with no history of mental illness are suffering from them now.  It's a particularly absurd situation that nobody was prepared for.

Quote from: Eoin McLove on March 03, 2021, 08:48:37 AM
All day on the radio it's Covid stories,  then you put on the news in the evening and it's more Covid. It feels like some sort of mass hypnosis is going on.

Yep, I was listening to some Irish podcasts recently and they got interrupted by an ad announcing "We all need to know the symptoms of Covid 19...."...... For fuck sake I'm listening to podcasts to get away from the wall to wall misery of Irish radio wanking itself silly over Covid being such a scourge. And it's been a fucking year, anyone with 2 functioning brain cells knows the symptoms because it's all Irish media have been able to fuckin talk about for the past year.

The duality of the restrictions is what annoys me most. I'm lucky to have been working all through this so for me personally the only real difference to daily life has been wearing a mask in shops. The mrs on the other hand has been stuck at home for the bones of a year. How is it fair that I can freely go to farmyards all over the county 6 days a week but I could be fined for having the audacity to want to bring the wife somewhere that isn't the same 5km block of ugly streets and housing estates on my day off?? What's the harm in people walking on beaches or in forests if they're keeping to themselves.

The whole thing is a colossal fuck up really. There's plenty questions to be asked about the approaches taken but it's difficult to get those questions taken seriously as the conspiracy retards have taken so much credibility away from that side of the argument.

Quote from: Emphyrio on March 03, 2021, 01:16:18 PM
I'd say it's poor stress management. Could happen anyone really. Awful.

Aye you're probably right.

Quote from: hellfire on March 03, 2021, 01:22:19 PM

Most people are vulnerable to depression, just depends on how much pressure or unfortunate circumstances need to be applied.  A lot of people with no history of mental illness are suffering from them now.  It's a particularly absurd situation that nobody was prepared for.

Good point. People are social animals after all. What do ye do to alleviate the boredom. Just taking a snapshot of my friends during Covid. I'm seeing where people have a good hobby, be it music, art or whatever have dived into that hobby and seem to be handling all this a little better. I signed up for drum theory stuff and have belted away with that to keep occupied. Friends of mine that don't seem to have hobbies bar meeting up and socialising are finding it a lot harder. Am I on to something or talking shite?

That's completely true. I'm lucky to be still out working which has helped a lot but I'm finding the lack of jamming and recording is really getting to me now. I need that outlet. Going for walks when we get in from work, being distracted with our son,  listening to music, reading and telly is life these days. It's limited enough,  especially when all social outlets have vanished.

Quote from: Ollkiller on March 03, 2021, 02:09:49 PM
Quote from: hellfire on March 03, 2021, 01:22:19 PM

Most people are vulnerable to depression, just depends on how much pressure or unfortunate circumstances need to be applied.  A lot of people with no history of mental illness are suffering from them now.  It's a particularly absurd situation that nobody was prepared for.

Good point. People are social animals after all. What do ye do to alleviate the boredom. Just taking a snapshot of my friends during Covid. I'm seeing where people have a good hobby, be it music, art or whatever have dived into that hobby and seem to be handling all this a little better. I signed up for drum theory stuff and have belted away with that to keep occupied. Friends of mine that don't seem to have hobbies bar meeting up and socialising are finding it a lot harder. Am I on to something or talking shite?

No, you're definitely on to something. Those hobbies in particular that you mention. They're quite solitary, and easy to get lost in. If your main outlets are sports or the pub, I imagine it must be tougher.

Quote from: Eoin McLove on March 03, 2021, 02:15:58 PM
That's completely true. I'm lucky to be still out working which has helped a lot but I'm finding the lack of jamming and recording is really getting to me now. I need that outlet. Going for walks when we get in from work, being distracted with our son,  listening to music, reading and telly is life these days. It's limited enough,  especially when all social outlets have vanished.

I can take or leave the jamming but I'd be fairly lost if I wasn't able to do a bit of recording at home when the urge kicks in.

I've found studying for work related certifications really helpful. Gives me a small sense of achievement when the are completed.

I'm currently trying my hand at guitar. Its so hard but you'd find the time flying from practice. Just wish the damn calluses would form so the finger pain would stop.  :laugh:


Think long and hard about why the 80 odd shites at the golf dinner last summer didn't feel threatened enough to stay at home from it.

Now think about it again because you probably didn't think hard enough about it the first time. Make sure to take the time to consider who was there. Also consider how much less was known about the virus at the time and they still went.

Now ask yourself why the foundations are currently being laid for masking up junior infants.

Yes.

Quote from: astfgyl on March 03, 2021, 10:26:54 PM
Think long and hard about why the 80 odd shites at the golf dinner last summer didn't feel threatened enough to stay at home from it.

Now think about it again because you probably didn't think hard enough about it the first time. Make sure to take the time to consider who was there. Also consider how much less was known about the virus at the time and they still went.

Now ask yourself why the foundations are currently being laid for masking up junior infants.

Yes.

Implied...or implode, Lisa?

Just say whatever it is you're thinking.

#2623 March 03, 2021, 10:40:07 PM Last Edit: March 03, 2021, 10:44:49 PM by astfgyl
No.

That was an invitation for anyone else to think about it. Everyone knows how I feel about it.

Have you thought about why they felt safe enough to attend?

Edit: without masks...

Quote from: Born of Fire on March 03, 2021, 02:02:09 PM
The whole thing is a colossal fuck up really. There's plenty questions to be asked about the approaches taken but it's difficult to get those questions taken seriously as the conspiracy retards have taken so much credibility away from that side of the argument.

In short, yes. And Pedrito made a similar point with his "rudderless" comment. Scrabbling, opportunism, fucking up, scrabbling, opportunism, fucking up, scrabbling, opportunism, fucking up...the standard politicycle.