No mystery. Italy is a very full-on physical contact place. When people meet they kiss each other on both cheeks, there is lots of touching and embracing. It's a massive part of normal life. If a virus spreads through contact, Italy is the place it'll happen.

Fair enough. I've never been to Italy and I don't know much about it. Did you have a read of that study I quoted a few posts back? I suppose the numbers there in those years could have been due to the same physical contact thing and just that nobody thought of it. Seems plausible enough but still doesn't account for the increases in those years of the study.

Before I go on I have to say again that I'm not taking any sort of conspiracy type angle with any of this, just wondering about stuff like if Italy have had this massive excess deaths problem for years, could investigating that problem be the key to reducing their number of Covid-19 deaths?

I'm trying to word what I say about it very carefully for fear of being seen as some sort of holocaust denier when I'm not doubting the facts of any of this at all regarding death rates or the devastating effects on health services worldwide. Or for that matter, the devastating effects on actual real people versus reading it as statistics. Like there is someone on this very board whose wife has it and I can only imagine how worrying something like that is so I have to keep reiterating that I'm not trying to cheapen it in any way or say it's a load of nothing or that it is exaggerated in any way at all. It's extremely likely that this will have an effect on most of us on a personal level beyond having to read some extra books or staying out of the pub and missing a few gigs. I understand it is a very serious situation.

Boris Johnson has tested positive. What's Paddy Power offering on him being one of the strong part of the herd??

Till Lindemann tested positive for it. 57, look strong as an ox hopefully will power through it.

Jaysus that test is rough, feels like the swab goes halfway through your head

Quote from: Aborted on March 27, 2020, 03:35:13 PM
Till Lindemann tested positive for it. 57, look strong as an ox hopefully will power through it.

Damn it's saying he's in ICU.

"Out of danger" I'm seeing

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"Out of danger" I'm seeing

Aye, article I was reading was from earlier in the day.

Saw Italy had over 900 deaths today, truly shit. Leo on the news there saying we'll probably hit ICU capacity soon enough. Daily cases for Ireland to be at 8:45 tonight. Nurse friend told me there some clusters found in Ireland coming from nursing homes so fearing the worst about that.

The HSE are now sending out text messages to people who have already been tested that if they do not meet the criteria they may not get any results and their tests will be dumped. What a crock of shit this is turning into a real shit show.

Apparently Ireland is showing a similar trend to the way Italy went just at a slower rate.

Yesterday showed how bonkers hyper capitalism is ->

A record 3.28 million Americans file claims for unemployment while the USA stock markets had their biggest 3 day rally since 1931. Ryanair operated 390 flights a few days ago to vs almost 0 yesterday....shares up nearly 25% since Monday.

My mom is in a nursing home, they've shut door almost a month now id say. But I can only imagine someone being careless and given the condition a lot of people in there are in it would be hopeless.

News reports of people returning to Canada and hiding their symptoms just to get back into the country. One girl who didn't want to be identified and had returned from Europe this week think it was Italy or somewhere is certain she has it. All she was asked when she landed in Canada was do you have a cough or fever she said no then was handed a sheet with self isolation instructions and told to go on her way. 

People out of work also facing a 2+ month wait to get any sort of payment.

I'm looking forward to the likes of Blathnaid from nationwide being interviewed on the late late show about how they managed to get through the Coronavirus. It's bad people are dying I get that but some cunts are dining out on this

Miriam O'Callaghan presenting it tonight, as if it couldn't get any worse. Tubridy has a cough and is self-isolating. Surprised he didn't do it from his garden shed like Claire Byrne.

Or his porn layer, our next guest is Nathan Carter and he is going to  Tell us how he overcame depression as he was the only one in his family not to get the virus and now has survivors guilt

Can't wait