#3765 January 27, 2023, 03:35:29 PM Last Edit: January 27, 2023, 03:49:46 PM by Black Shepherd Carnage
Only getting a chance to watch the video now. So, even if this guy is who it is claimed he is, the entire thing, the beginning, middle, and end of the claim boils down to, and I quote, "an idea that came up in a meeting [today]"? (timestamp: 3:02)

Earth shattering.

Edit: No, the video is worse than that. What it is (again, if yer man is genuinely who it's claimed he is) is a waste of a pretty powerful exposé of corruption in the regulatory system in the US. Which we all know about, but if (!) you have someone high up in Pfizer saying that this is part of their business model, then that's a great piece to add to the kind of case that ultimately brought Purdue down. What is not a great piece to add to that case is hare-brained suppositions about Pfizer intentionally releasing new variants of the virus as a business model.


It never ceases to amaze me how dim-witted Tim Pool is. He opens by claiming Newsweek came up with a misleading title (I don't really see how it's misleading, based on the original Project Veritas video) and that they did so precisely in order to gotcha Project Veritas. Which he then points out they precisely don't do. Bravo Tim, arguing both sides of a strawman against yourself. Didn't get any further than that. You need to look after your mind and avoid the Tim Pools of the world.

I am no fan of Tim Pool was just one of the first things that popped up when I opened youtube earlier and he made some good points on the original video while also pointing out the stupidity of the fact check article that Bürggermeister thought was so great. Plenty of others now have done videos on this today as well including Brand.

Seeing as this thread has been dragged out of retirement...

https://twitter.com/wolfetonedeaf/status/1618020237722681344

Oh, the cruel irony is lost on this lunatic of god's creation.

Ranting years ago in his truck about mask and movement restrictions, now leading masked protestors outside politician's offices and demanding people aren't allowed movement into the country!! He'd love a good lock down now I'd imagine :laugh:

Oh, and also complaining about the dangers to women here from unvetted "plantation" folk, whilst from the other side of his mouth he'sthreathening "murdering, genocidal" nurses (he obviously doesn't know any health professionals who had to work through the darker days and what they experienced).

You'd imagine the trucker lifestyle locked away in his cab so many hours a day isn't doing his mental health any good. You'd wonder what him and his ilk would cope if they didn't have a camera to pose in front of all the time.

Next time he lectures Gardaí saying "these are our streets" etc, they should physically lecture him that "these are our batons" and give him the fight he's loking for.

#3770 January 28, 2023, 06:30:22 AM Last Edit: January 28, 2023, 09:19:37 AM by Bürggermeister
Quote from: mickO))) on January 27, 2023, 09:45:11 PMI am no fan of Tim Pool was just one of the first things that popped up when I opened youtube earlier and he made some good points on the original video while also pointing out the stupidity of the fact check article that Bürggermeister thought was so great. Plenty of others now have done videos on this today as well including Brand.
Where did I say it was great? I said it was gas, like the thing you posted. Like Tim Pool for you, it was the first thing which came up when I searched your project veritas hero 😁

Did you fact check the facts checked?

#3771 January 28, 2023, 10:48:44 AM Last Edit: January 28, 2023, 11:04:15 AM by mickO)))
Quote from: Bürggermeister on January 28, 2023, 06:30:22 AM
Quote from: mickO))) on January 27, 2023, 09:45:11 PMI am no fan of Tim Pool was just one of the first things that popped up when I opened youtube earlier and he made some good points on the original video while also pointing out the stupidity of the fact check article that Bürggermeister thought was so great. Plenty of others now have done videos on this today as well including Brand.
Where did I say it was great? I said it was gas, like the thing you posted. Like Tim Pool for you, it was the first thing which came up when I searched your project veritas hero 😁

Did you fact check the facts checked?

At least I watched the Tim Pool video before posting it you didn't read the Newsweek article before posting it and I highly doubt it was the first thing you found more like the only thing you could find in a desperate attempt to disprove this awful conspiracy theory.

Still no statement from Pfizer on Jordon. I guess they still haven't found the time or money to put one together.

At least Jordon hasn't lost his job yet

https://twitter.com/Project_Veritas/status/1619116856207622145?cxt=HHwWgoDSgfmMofgsAAAA

😂 Like the veritas guy, you also leap to conclusions rashly. I'll tell you my level of emotion involvement in this and then check out, because this shit is fucking tiring. I read the article you posted and, based on working in the medical industry for over 20 years and having been through FDA audits at least once every two years in that time, along with audits from every country my company sells into. Based on my experience, and my experience only, I concluded the guy who wrote the article hasn't a fucking clue how regulation works in the real world, and everything he wrote comes from the perspective of someone who thought he had uncovered the tinfoiler's wet dream. With that, in mind, I did a quick search saw the newsweek thing and chuckled merrily for a second, maybe two, and posted the link. Now here we are.

I don't give a fuck, personally, whether you believe that shit or not. It's some guy hoping his balls would be in another person's mouth, telling that person everything they wanted to hear. That's it 🙂

You responded to my original post within four minutes of me posting it. The link I posted has a long article and a 9 minute video. Indeed it is tiring because you haven't been able to argue any of the points I have made you just resorted to the usual "Oh so covid actually does exist now" crap. The amount of times you have replied to me about this on here shows you do care. If you didn't you would have just walked away after you posted the trustworthy fact check article.

So, is the fact check trustworthy or not, in your opinion? Tim Pool seems to want to take "unverifiable" as a win for his side. But if a win is to be claimed, that can only be on the basis of the "unverifiable" being trustworthy. And yet "unverifiable", and nothing more, is literally what the claim in question is. Emphasis on the "and nothing more," because much, much more is what the "journalist" (lol) from Project Veritas is adding to it. If the guy is really a Pfizer guy, then what I see in all these videos is a bungle of the highest order. Nothing said constitutes evidence of anything concrete and wouldn't hold water in any kind of trial proceeding whatsoever.

Fact checks in general are not trustworthy I think most people would agree on this but without even taking that into account the article itself in no way helps Bürggermeisters argument. He most likely saw it, read the headline and thought 'great ill show this conspiracy theorist ' then it backfired on him.


Quote from: mickO))) on January 28, 2023, 12:10:59 PMYou responded to my original post within four minutes of me posting it. The link I posted has a long article and a 9 minute video. Indeed it is tiring because you haven't been able to argue any of the points I have made you just resorted to the usual "Oh so covid actually does exist now" crap. The amount of times you have replied to me about this on here shows you do care. If you didn't you would have just walked away after you posted the trustworthy fact check article.

Ah jaysus, lad, you're down to checking post times? Here's what happened. I read a lot. I read quickly. I read the article. The article describes what happens in the video. I chose not to watch the video as a result. I chuckled. I posted a reply. After searching up on yer man, I edited the reply. I chuckled again. This site doesn't show edit information. To put your mind at rest, and since you won't believe me anyway, I am perfectly happy for Hambeast to provide you with the edit information, both times and content. If you would like, feel free to post that information here. Please, go for it.

After that, cancel my tenancy agreement in your head, for I have not paid the bill!

Peace out, yo!

Quote from: mickO))) on January 28, 2023, 02:20:06 PMFact checks in general are not trustworthy I think most people would agree on this

Hot air. You analyze things on a case-by-case basis, or else you're not analyzing at all.

Here's the conclusion of the fact-check in question:
QuoteIn the Project Veritas video, the interviewee, who is quoted as a Pfizer employee, says there are ongoing discussions about engineering "mutations" of COVID so that preemptive vaccines, for variants that may occur in nature, could be developed.

However, the discussions are spoken about in theoretical terms.

While Project Veritas' James O'Keefe claims that the interviewee moves on to talk about these experiments as if they are ongoing, there is not enough information in the film to be certain whether he is talking about theoretical experiments or other preliminary research, or if these directly involve or are related to COVID.

Having watched the videos, this strikes me as perfectly accurate. Even O'Keefe is careful to subtly couch things in the first video so as not to claim any more than this, but of course he knows the effect the video will have on his target audience, including other influential types (your Tucker Carlsons, Tim Pools, Russell Brands, etc.), and how it will be amplified by them. The fact check merely hammers home that the video is evidence of nothing concrete. Nothing at all.

Quote from: Bürggermeister on January 28, 2023, 02:39:14 PMAh jaysus, lad, you're down to checking post times? Here's what happened. I read a lot. I read quickly. I read the article. The article describes what happens in the video. I chose not to watch the video as a result. I chuckled. I posted a reply. After searching up on yer man, I edited the reply. I chuckled again. This site doesn't show edit information. To put your mind at rest, and since you won't believe me anyway, I am perfectly happy for Hambeast to provide you with the edit information, both times and content. If you would like, feel free to post that information here. Please, go for it.

After that, cancel my tenancy agreement in your head, for I have not paid the bill

Peace out, yo!

I am not checking post times I just happened to still be on the site when you first responded with the laughing icon on it's own and I knew then that you hadn't even looked at the link I posted in any great detail. I have no interest in seeing what posts you edited. I have clearly made my points on here over and over again since I posted this and you haven't been able to argue any of them which is why you resorted to the "Is Covid real" stuff.

It is quite obvious who is living rent free in who's head here. I just hope the article I posted that got you so upset hasn't ruined your weekend.

Either way, single-handedly blasting COVID back into the very forefront of the collective consciousness is certainly proving to be a successful business model for Project Veritas!  :laugh:

https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/1619138163196465152