Of course they won't , the government wants the working classes competing for resources.

However, the protests being labelled far right is due to them targeting the migrants themselves, the rhetoric used (fearmongering about migrants all being dangerous criminals) and the source of the information the protesters seem to use - the National Party/Gript etc.

If these people were purely protesting the housing crisis no one would call them far right.

Aye the issue should be housing. Not for 1 group but for all. We didnt build social houses for a few years in the 2010's. Absolute lunacy. And the housing market needs proper regulation. Oh we can't interfere in the market. Bullshit. The market enables vulture funds to buy estates for the high returns. They should be banned forthwith from being able to buy properties until housing is sorted. And do something about the, is it 200,000 or so, derelict/vacant properties.

The government also wants the protests to be labelled as far right, obviously. And unless such protests start getting smart and policing themselves and the rhetoric they amplify, they'll continue to play into the government's hands on that score. It's a very long shot, long game to be banking on a potential swing in voting patterns, especially in Ireland.

If one credible party ran with a clear promise to reduce immigration and asylum numbers they could take a decent chunk of the vote. I know the IFP exists, but they are a bit too Alex Jones for most people.

My twitter feed today has been Graham Linham and India Willoby all day. Don't even follow either of them.
I blame Elon musk and question time.

Quote from: hellfire on February 03, 2023, 06:51:27 PMIf one credible party ran with a clear promise to reduce immigration and asylum numbers they could take a decent chunk of the vote. I know the IFP exists, but they are a bit too Alex Jones for most people.

Not for you though? Bleerin immigants wha?

Quote from: hellfire on February 03, 2023, 06:51:27 PMIf one credible party ran with a clear promise to reduce immigration and asylum numbers they could take a decent chunk of the vote. I know the IFP exists, but they are a bit too Alex Jones for most people.

The IFP are a bit too IFP for most people.

#4747 February 04, 2023, 02:04:28 AM Last Edit: February 04, 2023, 02:46:24 AM by Caomhaoin
I don't like the way the EU has gone, the internecine squabbling and 'far-righting' of the Poles and Hungarians etc, but an Irish withdrawal is out of the question, so why waste time with lads like the IFP. Bureaucratic globalist ghouls, but what can you do?

As far as the protests go, and I think this point goes for Europe-wide resistance (which is substantial), the point about allowing the state and its propaganda department to swat them and their credibility away with editorials and headlines screaming far right is correct. The constant harping on about military aged single men and plantations is the kind of hysterical screeching you read on twitter from their foolish counterparts on the left and is just as dumb.

The identitarian movement skilfully evaded that trap for years until they were essentially kicked off the internet, crippling them.

For most right thinking Irish people, a happy medium should be found. There is no denying the outrageous behaviour of certain immigrants in the gaff. If you're a guest in the country and you are caught hassling women, trashing hotels etc, you should be handcuffed and sent back to where you came from. On the other hand, genuine cases should be treated with respect and a degree of empathy. We're not a country used to being so attractive to immigrants, therefore the alarm at the startling numbers was hardly unpredictable. Throw a thousand homeless families in Dublin into the mix and it's a recipe for vehement indignation.





Just saw that ep 3 of The Last Of Us has also undergone a review bombing, with 28% of all votes on imdb being 1/10. The perpetually offended by anything that doesn't conform to traditional abrahamic values brigade never fails, even in a case where the non-conformity in question is 100% perfectly aligned with the "canon" of the long-standing material in question.

Kev, while I agree with a lot of what you said the EU in it's current form is completely unacceptable. It dictates to the citizens of Europe based on a number of non negotiable ideologies. It ignores referendums or decisions made at a national level. The main beneficiaries of it are the larger central European states. Everyone else may fall into line. The only way I'd be happy with it is if it was busted back down to a trade agreement.

#4750 February 04, 2023, 10:00:55 AM Last Edit: February 04, 2023, 10:08:41 AM by Caomhaoin
I agree, the EU is cuntish in a whole raft of areas, and it's previous incarnation is far more palatable. Does anyone outside Brussels want a European identity to overwhelm national ones? It's the possibility of Ireland ever leaving is so minute that what the IFP are selling is unfeasable.

I watched a Slovenian film called spare parts when I was in college (about people smuggling through Slovenia) and the opening montage was a truck driver becoming very emotional at the homogenisation of the continent and how places used to be distinct on a more than superficial level. All interchangeable now, bar touristy shite and, to an extent, cuisine and a lot of the so called traditional stuff is for tourists. That's the really sad part of globalisation, horrible multinational high streets, gradual erosion of what makes gaffs different and unique, doing what desk jockeys in Brussels tell them.

Only one MCDonalds in Belgrade, that brought a smile to my face but every other 'must have' like Zara and Starbucks pollute the streets and the EU cunts have left them no other option but to seek membership against the wishes of the majority.

The disconnect between the people making decisions and EU citizens is dangerous and unhealthy. The organisation as a whole needs to be disbanded, removed from the law books of countries and replaced with a trade agreement. Immigration is fine and a normal part of life. What is not OK is the mass importation of people at a rate that society can't adjust to and infrastructure doesn't allow for. Ridiculous legislation that is contrary to the good of individual member states is also an issue. The expansionism is also a major issue. No doubting Putin is a crazy cunt, but provoking him by courting Ukraine for EU membership contributed to the current situation.

You have to wonder what motivates some of the decision making. I know there have been some precedents, ourselves over in England, Turks and Yugos in Germany to fill a genuine lack of manpower, but the thinking behind what we are witnessing since 2015? I don't get it. Virtue signalling on a grotesque scale?

You should get rid of the idea of anyone up in the highest decision making places giving a shit about virtue, let alone virtue signalling.

I'm under no illusions about their lack of virtue! The WEF in particular.