The PC and Perpetually Offended Brigade

[mickO)))]

As an aside. The government and media seem happy enough to smear any protest against a lunatic immigration policy that has failed everywhere else as far right. I'm sure there are some people at the protests with shitty political opinions, but there are an awful lot of working class people at them who just want the basics of life such as accommodation. How dare the filthy working class untermenschen disagree with the educated. They've even tried to play up the attendance of some criminal elements at them. They are all far right criminals who would do well to educate themselves.

The Government are getting desperate because none of the tactics they have tried so far to stop the protesting has worked. They know that as the weather gets better over the next few months the protests are going to become much bigger.

[hellfire]

As an aside. The government and media seem happy enough to smear any protest against a lunatic immigration policy that has failed everywhere else as far right. I'm sure there are some people at the protests with shitty political opinions, but there are an awful lot of working class people at them who just want the basics of life such as accommodation. How dare the filthy working class untermenschen disagree with the educated. They've even tried to play up the attendance of some criminal elements at them. They are all far right criminals who would do well to educate themselves.

I have no problem with protests but having them outside where asylum seekers are staying I do have a problem with. The asylum seekers didnt create the issue. Successive governments with terrible policies created this housing crisis. Protest the fuckers who caused it.

I'd agree that terrorising traumatised people is not a good look for anyone. I think the protests will get worse and not better. The political class will continue ignoring it and dismissing valid concerns. This was easily predictable as it's happened in every other European country that's attractive to migrants. The next phase is thoroughly unfortunate. Buildings that are marked for asylum applicants will be damaged or torched. I'm not in any way saying that's right, but it's happened everywhere else.

[ldj]

The problem with the protests is a lot of them seemed to be aimed at the migrants themselves rather than the government.

If a protest was purely aimed at the Government's failure to house its people I'd be right there, but as soon as it becomes fear mongering bollocks about all migrants being 'unvetted military aged males' here to rape and pillage they've lost me.

I live in an area that had one of these protests a few weeks back, all these people screaming at migrants in the name of 'protecting the women and children of the community'.

All I could think was where have all these vigilantes been the last 30-40 years when the local drug gangs have been grooming kids into becoming drug dealers from the age of 10, only to be shot dead by 20.

[astfgyl]

Seems to me that all the government have to do is address the valid concerns and then there'll be nothing left to say about it. Say a certain percentage get here with no documents well then send them back. Say if we are taking Ukrainian refugees well and good but then let them be Ukrainian refugees. I don't even mind the immigrants but it's a contentious issue that shouldn't be simply smeared as far right every time there's concern voiced at any of it. The protests will probably grow the more they're ignored or smeared for right or wrong. It all reminds me a bit of the Martha's vineyard thing in the US a few months ago. Move the lads into some of the more upmarket areas and see if anyone minds. Either way it doesn't seem to me like it'd even be hard to solve at all and still take refugees and even economic migrants once they've legally got here and are good to stay. The Irish are no different heading here there and everywhere for economic reasons as well as just fancying something new. If there was a loophole into Australia or Canada there'd be no shortage of takers. It's certainly up to the government rather than all our new citizens

[hellfire]

A lot of the rage is misdirected for sure. Angry people behave like assholes a lot of the time. "What you did won't work, what you're calling for won't happen" before a call to resolve these issues through a political system that has insulted, abandoned and stated unequivocally that they won't be dealing with any of the "legitimate issues" repeatedly.

[mickO)))]

Residents in Ballsbridge went to the high court to stop a refugee centre opening in the area and they were successful but not a word about them being far right or racist for doing it.

[ldj]

Residents in Ballsbridge went to the high court to stop a refugee centre opening in the area and they were successful but not a word about them being far right or racist for doing it.

Well yeah that's to be expected, the upper classes are always going to be more secret or devious in how they do things.

It's also in the upper classes interests to have the working classes fighting each other, which exactly what these protesters are playing into.

[astfgyl]

The ballsbridge story is fairly normal carry on as things go here indeed

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

That Ballsbridge story was almost 25 years ago. They should be housing refugees in that area though; loads of space. Jury's hotel could easily be appropriated, for example.

[astfgyl]

That Ballsbridge story was almost 25 years ago. They should be housing refugees in that area though; loads of space. Jury's hotel could easily be appropriated, for example.

Seriously 25 years ago? Ah forget that then I thought it was only after happening

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

not a word about them being far right or racist for doing it.

And here's An Phoblacht/SF calling them out for bigotry at the time:
https://www.anphoblacht.com/contents/6551

[mickO)))]

I didn't know it was 20 years ago but they still won't attempt to put another centre there now.

[hellfire]

That Ballsbridge story was almost 25 years ago. They should be housing refugees in that area though; loads of space. Jury's hotel could easily be appropriated, for example.

I think that is an excellent idea. It works on a few levels for me. Not just for Ballsbridge but all upscale neighbourhoods. There are a lot of smug prick's that are quite happy to tut at the peasantry while never having to deal with the consequences of their moralising. Also, there was never a chance that the government was going to listen to some uneducated ruffians from a council estate. Put the lads in beside the wealthy and when they kick off then watch how fast a change in policy happens. Shave a couple of hundred grand off the value of these peoples homes by building massive asylum centres in their areas. A pipe dream of mine would be to have a few hundred of them living near the Irish Times and RTE offices.

[astfgyl]

That Ballsbridge story was almost 25 years ago. They should be housing refugees in that area though; loads of space. Jury's hotel could easily be appropriated, for example.

I think that is an excellent idea. It works on a few levels for me. Not just for Ballsbridge but all upscale neighbourhoods. There are a lot of smug prick's that are quite happy to tut at the peasantry while never having to deal with the consequences of their moralising. Also, there was never a chance that the government was going to listen to some uneducated ruffians from a council estate. Put the lads in beside the wealthy and when they kick off then watch how fast a change in policy happens. Shave a couple of hundred grand off the value of these peoples homes by building massive asylum centres in their areas. A pipe dream of mine would be to have a few hundred of them living near the Irish Times and RTE offices.

I too would like to see that happening

[astfgyl]

not a word about them being far right or racist for doing it.

And here's An Phoblacht/SF calling them out for bigotry at the time:
https://www.anphoblacht.com/contents/6551

Only tangentially related but the father in law tried to get John Aldridge to sign a copy of An Phoblacht back in the late 80s or early 90s, had it folded over but the fucker opened it out