The PC and Perpetually Offended Brigade

[astfgyl]

You should get rid of the idea of anyone up in the highest decision making places giving a shit about virtue, let alone virtue signalling.

Yep but it suits them all very well to have other fuckin eejits at it

[The Butcher]

With Jimmie Åkesson in Sweden and the likes of Giorgia Meloni in Italy, I think people would be daft to try say Ireland would never creep in that direction.

[Caomhaoin]

Meloni ruled out leaving the EU even before she was elected.

[The Butcher]

I meant in terms of voting in those types as opposed to anything to do with leaving the EU.

[Caomhaoin]

Well yeah, maybe. Italy and Sweden have situations which are a bit further down the road that Ireland but if the government persists with what they're doing, could happen alright. It'd need someone a bit more charismatic than Justin Barrett though.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Italy and Ireland are chalk and cheese, imo, with regards to geopolitical situation. And for us to go the way of Sweden would require a prior hard swing left. So, say if SF got in and, in the opinion of enough people, botched things, then we might get a swing far right to follow. That's the only path I see leading to that place in the foreseeable future, say a 20 year window.

[Caomhaoin]

German Panzers will be rolling east in the coming months so don't rule anything out.

[Caomhaoin]

'Ukraine must be helped to defend its sovereign territory, it's the right thing to do'.

https://mronline.org/2022/08/01/west-prepares-to-plunder-post-war-ukraine-with-neoliberal-shock-therapy/

[astfgyl]

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/social-affairs/2023/02/04/deportation-of-failed-asylum-applicants-to-be-accelerated-says-harris

Looks like a bit of appeasement, but the important part is that they'll be asked to leave rather than actually sent away so back to square one unfortunately. Again as I've already said, it doesn't even seem like a hard problem to solve

[astfgyl]

'Ukraine must be helped to defend its sovereign territory, it's the right thing to do'.

https://mronline.org/2022/08/01/west-prepares-to-plunder-post-war-ukraine-with-neoliberal-shock-therapy/

You're not seriously trying to suggest that someone is going to profit from this noble war and its aftermath are you?

[astfgyl]

Another thought I had this morning is about the potential irony when the push for diversity homogenises everything.

[hellfire]

Italy and Ireland are chalk and cheese, imo, with regards to geopolitical situation. And for us to go the way of Sweden would require a prior hard swing left. So, say if SF got in and, in the opinion of enough people, botched things, then we might get a swing far right to follow. That's the only path I see leading to that place in the foreseeable future, say a 20 year window.

It seems to be happening in all countries that are popular destinations for immigrants and asylum seekers. I don't think it will take 20 years. A maximum of five if immigration continues at this pace. It will continue at this pace because of the recent UK policy changes.

[Caomhaoin]

Look at Kosovo sure. The Albanians think they've gotten one over on the evil Serb oppressor, but it's a spectre, a wight, neither a state nor a province. It's an American colony now home to an enormous military base to protect the interests of vultures like Madeline Albright (an evil fat bitch now thankfully in the ground, who discarded her own Czech identity).

Ukraine will go the same way if the Russians are forced out. The difference is, Serbia saw the writing on the wall and were told straight up by Atahari that if they didn't withdraw, NATO bombers would raze the entire country to the ground. Keep in mind, Kosovo was/is part of their sovereign territory (yeah but that's different lads slava Ukraine or whatever these cunts say and wave that flag with the gay one out the window like good lads and don't be reading things).

It's genius really, a gigantic confidence trick. Do you remember when you read about the feudal system or Spanish behaviour in the Americas or the destruction of the peasants revolt in Germany? You'd have thought 'jaysus what an injustice, I'm glad I live in such a civilised and fair society by comparison'. Do we feck.

These cunts have us all squabbling on the internet and have taken away wir ability to see the wood from the trees.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

It seems to be happening in all countries that are popular destinations for immigrants and asylum seekers. I don't think it will take 20 years. A maximum of five if immigration continues at this pace. It will continue at this pace because of the recent UK policy changes.

A maximum of five years either for one of the establishment Irish parties to shift as far right as either Meloni's or Åkesson's parties or for some new such far right party to rise up to a power-challenging level? I have a very hard time seeing either of those things happening within 5 years in Ireland, of all places, even if immigration continues at whatever pace "this" pace is. Maybe if parties like IFP were getting above 5% of the vote share already, but they're very fucking far from that. Even in Sweden, Åkesson was already on almost 6% back in 2014.

[hellfire]

IFP won't ever go much further than YouTube and Twitter. They lack any kind of credibility, even with me. I'm voting Aountu next time out because of their Eurosceptic stance and immigration policy. I believe they're currently polling at around four percent.