:laugh:  very good! Ah I'm only acting the bollix really but one can't discount the level of anti Islam propaganda people here have been subjected to over the years and it's hard for some to differentiate between propaganda and reality. There'll be fried cunts in every creed and I've no time for fundamentalism but it's been beaten into so many that every Islam lad is just waiting to cut the head off anyone and then they have the fried eejit imams adding fundamentalist shit on the telly all the time to add to it. In reality any of the Islam lads I know are the solid finest sure there's a Syrian lad only after leaving my gaff an hour or two ago and I didn't racially abuse him once.

The American stuff that was sold over here in light of the invasions in the middle east was very strong propaganda though and a lot of folks thought they were getting the message of the good guys from the yanks and it stuck with a lot.

Still the government have entirely missold the situation as well so that doesn't help either but I don't find myself setting fire to things as a result so I can't get on board with that at all in any fashion

That Pepper lad seems to have more in common with the fundamentalist Muslims he's afraid will take over the country than he realizes! A mate drew my attention to a recent tweet where, all genuinely nice and lovely, he introduces his new born son to the world, thanks the hospital, the midwives, says how happy he is, etc.... but still, a propos of nothing,  hashtags the tweet #IrelandIsFull and #MakeIrelandSafeAgain  :laugh:

#5703 January 07, 2024, 01:36:40 PM Last Edit: January 07, 2024, 01:45:32 PM by astfgyl
That tweet turned up on my timeline earlier and I don't even follow the cunt so I blocked him. What the fuck do I want with looking at pictures of peoples fucking children on twitter

Edit: "Ireland is full" he said, adding another human to the island... Good lord.

Thinking about it, I reckon we could squeeze in another half a million immigrants or so and give them all medical cards and accommodation while not beefing up the infrastructure. That should get rid of the likes of Pepper and not create many more of him


I heard your friend Pepper is running in a local election this year. Finglas I believe. I imagine he'd be like a Paul Murphy of the right. Office by day, street protest at night. 

Where did he even appear from? Is he NP or something? Never heard of him until a few weeks ago

I see Roscrea is still as offensive as it ever was.

Great move by the powers that be to bus in a few children for the photo op though. Very clever!

No mention on the telly that the town is fuckin ruined as it is and has been for a long time. No mention that the reason the locals are out protesting is because they've been sold a pup over the other immigration centre in the town, which they were promised would be women and children from Ukraine but is actually full of African and Middle Eastern men instead and a local told me the other day that the Gardai should open up a new station at the gates because they're down there so often. I know a lad that worked there is how I know it's all men rather than women and children.

There's also a reason that hotels such as Racket Hall are taking the money, and it's not because things are going well. It's because they need to pay the electricity bill somehow or go out of business.

The blame for the whole sorry saga lies firmly at the feet of the government and not at all the locals or indeed the immigrants. It's not fair on either the locals or the immigrants.

Cunts need to go and soon but there's actually no alternative. Also, anyone who is registered to vote should go to checktheregister.ie and sort themselves out there because a lot have been removed unknown to themselves. I was and all, but I've fixed it just in case voting does do anything (though I suspect it won't because policies are handed to the Irish government through Europe now rather than devised here at all).

Anyway, this stuff is really dividing the place as it has turned out and now everyone is offended on all sides

Quote from: astfgyl on January 15, 2024, 10:54:02 PMGreat move by the powers that be to bus in a few children for the photo op though. Very clever!

The rationale behind this, if any, is approaching crisis actor conspiracy territory. Hard to take anything you say afterward seriously. Supposedly numbers of gardai in Roscrea have dropped from 24 in the past to only 7 now, despite population actually increasing over the same period. Signals of need for major societal restructuring. Not so much a second station they need: keeping the one they have open round the clock would already be a significant improvement.

Quote from: Black Shepherd Carnage on January 16, 2024, 12:12:24 PM
Quote from: astfgyl on January 15, 2024, 10:54:02 PMGreat move by the powers that be to bus in a few children for the photo op though. Very clever!

The rationale behind this, if any, is approaching crisis actor conspiracy territory. Hard to take anything you say afterward seriously. Supposedly numbers of gardai in Roscrea have dropped from 24 in the past to only 7 now, despite population actually increasing over the same period. Signals of need for major societal restructuring. Not so much a second station they need: keeping the one they have open round the clock would already be a significant improvement.

So you don't think that bussing in a few families rather than the usual Somalian and Nigerian lads was a smart move by the organisers who obviously knew there was a protest waiting to greet them? I think you're being purposely naive to say it wasn't. Cue all the NGO affiliate accounts comparing it to the kids going to holy Cross school... yeah definitely nothing doing there... and I feel sorry for those kids having to be used like that, I really do but why would you pretend to yourself that move want planned to do what it did?

I'm not pretending to myself. I'm not presuming anything. Because presuming something and then taking the thing presumed as fact is irrational. Where were the families prior to being brought to Roscrea? Are you suggesting that they were removed from already appropriate accommodation just so that the organizers could make a spectacle of them? Is there any evidence to suggest this?

#5711 January 16, 2024, 06:11:51 PM Last Edit: January 16, 2024, 06:31:52 PM by astfgyl
Keep up the good work lad. Are you going to say now it's all families going to these hotels? Why didn't they bring the families to one with no protest going? Oh I know why, because there aren't any. Also, I'm dealing with the foreign lads on a loop these days so don't try come at me with some spoofers government figures about the makeup of it when anyone can see what the craic actually is, ie single men from countries not at war. I see what we've gotten ourselves into with the whole thing and I see what was done by bringing those kids to that hotel. You can tell yourself otherwise all you want.

I wonder if our wonderful government has had any regrets about sending out messages in 7 or 8 languages to say ireland is open for applicants without consulting or even informing the populace of that?

There'll be hands wringing for sure over those poor kids but not at the fuckers who organised that bus and garda escort to bring them there right while the protest was going on.

Also I see The Journal reported them as Ukrainian children. I'm assuming I'm not the only one who saw pictures of them. Well now the journal has come out and said they're not Ukrainian children after all. Sold a pup and people wonder why there are protests.

No I'm not going to say it's all families. Why would I say that since it's obviously not true?

If there are protests at all of these centres (seems to be what you're saying) then there was potential for such scenes no matter where the families were brought, no? It's really not clear what exactly you're claiming tbh. Presumably, despite saying "busing in children," you don't deny that the families were real families. So is your claim that these families already had housing and were taken out of it to be bused to Roscrea for a photo op? Or that they didn't have housing and were brought to Roscrea instead of to somewhere else, again for the photo op? But since you said there'd have been protests waiting anywhere they could have been brought, it really isn't clear what either your gripe or the basis for it are.

And they're kids: what kind of person gives a fuck where they're from anyway?

Finally, for info:
QuoteThe latest figures from the Department of Integration show that 26,279 asylum seekers, of whom 5,621 are children, are currently being accommodated across 258 centres nationwide.

The latest data shows there are an average of 307 arrivals per week, with 44 arrivals every day, and 29% are single males, 11% are females, 21% couples, 28% children, and 11% lone parents.

More single males than any other group, which we knew, but a lot of families in there too; they're not something that have to be magicked up just for a photo op.

They brought three families in on the bus. They did this while knowing there was a well publicised protest going on there. Why do you think they did that?

Do you honestly think there was no other place in the country to put them? Why didn't some of the NGO affiliates put them up in their house?

Or are you suggesting perhaps that there was nowhere else to go with them because the country is full to capacity as it is, thus backing up the stance of the protesters themselves?

So why do you think they were brought in on that bus at that very time, if not for optics? Do you think that the organisers of the drop off didn't know that there was a protest on, even though it was national news? Well if they didn't know then why did they bring the public order unit to escort them in?

Why only three families? Do you think they had no single men that needed putting up, just this once?

Like I said, playing purposely naive.

Because you're not here much, I think you don't actually see how this is playing out in the sticks. Despite what you see on the news or read on twitter, the public sentiment on the current situation is on the side of the protesters everywhere outside of the cities. Cities have taken the multicultural approach for decades but the towns are being transformed in the space of a year or two, coinciding with the end of the covid restrictions, so everyone came out of their houses to this shit after it all. There's no support for it at all.

They announced last week that they were going to be bringing people. So we know there were people to be brought and, whoever those people were, it was planned to bring them to this and not to another place. That's why demonstrators were posted there since Thursday last. There was a protest on Friday. Another on Saturday. Then on Monday, as announced, they started bringing people. During yet another protest. But seemingly there were up to 25 demonstrators posted there at all times anyway, even overnight. And if they'd tried to bring them in under cover of dark... well, that would have been turned into a whole thing too, wouldn't it? "The sneaky pricks, tryin' to get them in when we're not lookin'!" or whatever. And what should they be doing anyway? Intentionally sending single males to a place surrounded by a crowd of baying locals who've been primed to explode at the sight of single non-white males? Who would that be better for exactly? They have single males to home. They have families to home. You've the numbers above there: as many children as single adult males to home. That's equal odds. Equal. Odds.