The PC and Perpetually Offended Brigade

[hellfire]

I don't know how true that is. It was a divine act of luck if they did.

[astfgyl]

I haven't done the due diligence on it at all but apparently it's a senator who is telling the tale. I'll likely come across it again on twitter lately

[astfgyl]

The video i saw today of the Minister for Justice attempting to define the far right was pretty spectacular.

It's basically anyone who doesn't agree with the policies of government. And also anyone who calls themselves the far right.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

I see none of the lads down Galway way learnt anything from the public outcry in response to property being set aflame in Dublin.

[astfgyl]

I see none of the lads down Galway way learnt anything from the public outcry in response to property being set aflame in Dublin.

What happened there? Didn't hear a note of it.

Actually since I've protected my posts on twitter I haven't heard fuck all about anything which is doing me the world of good.

I assume there was a protest of some sort?

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

There was a protest to block access to an unused hotel designated to be occupied by 70 immigrants. Some of the protestors then set the hotel on fire.

[hellfire]

Again, the answer to this problem will be to call everybody far-right and proceed with the plan of flooding every nook and cranny with unemployed people from abroad.

[astfgyl]

I agree with you Hellfire. I don't agree with burning things though.

This is what will happen more and more if people don't get listened to though

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

There have been over a dozen immigration protest-related arson attacks in Ireland over the last five years. Each time by people ostensibly claiming that immigrants are a risk to Irish safety. I say send these people back to where they came from: a failed educational, social, and ultimately correctional system!

[hellfire]

I agree with you Hellfire. I don't agree with burning things though.

This is what will happen more and more if people don't get listened to though

I don't either. The fire brigade still has to go in there even if the building is empty. Just pointing out that more violence, arson or god knows what else is the inevitable outcome of continuing as we are.

[91/30]

Interesting to note that the criteria for refugees is now broader than victims of warfare.
According to the head ponce running the state "..a major step-change in the numbers arriving here, seeking protection. poverty, climate change.."

Are they granting residency due to 'poverty' & 'climate change'?


"Step-change", what a fuckin clown he is

[astfgyl]

All we have to do is be sensible about it and the argument is gone. People have concerns - address them. Who does the government work for? Whether one agrees with a policy or not, the government are supposed to be your servant not your ruler

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

The current government can't address those concerns. They've backed themselves into a "damned if we do, damned if we don't" situation. What are they going to do? Turn around and agree that immigrants are the source of the problems when they, more than anyone, know that's not true? They know how brutal the factual push-back such a claim would bring against them directly would be.

So they don't make that claim. But they can't fully counter it either. Because that would require them coughing up the fact that, indeed, they're the ones to blame for the problems that really beat people's spirits down: no work or only gig economy work, cost of living crisis, housing crisis, etc., etc., etc. So the government get a bit of slack from "the left" for not clamping down on the agitators, but they can handle that, in fact they can fairly thrive on it, since both the agitators and their discontents, incl. the immigrants themselves, inevitably end up wasting most to all of their time and energy attacking each other.

They'll never say it, and from time to time they'll even slap some wrists, but the fairly recent emergence of such agitators in Ireland suits the establishment down to the ground. Even if you've a conspiracy thought that the government are letting loads of migrants in precisely to rile people up and keep them divided, truth remains that the smart thing to do, if you're playing honestly, is not let yourselves be divided, especially not over something as superficial as country of origin (as opposed to something significant like share in real power). Like that line from Rounders: "If you can't spot the sucker in your first half hour at the table, then you are the sucker." There is a very small but genuine far right movement emerging in Ireland, who need to have the law brought down on them where applicable, but in the sense I've just given, the left magnifying that movement into something much more encompassing than it is also renders dialogue and cooperation among the "have-nots" equally unattainable. A loud and clear mea culpa from me too on this, but I think we all need to be forcing ourselves to be a lot smarter than we are, towards a figurative pooling of our chips to eliminate the big shot at the table and make sure another doesn't simply slide in behind him (go on, have your 'Ooo-er!': you've earned it if you're still reading).

[astfgyl]

I mostly agree. Not fully, but mostly. I think people are angry and need a target which in this case is immigration but the real problem is the government fucking everyone over at every turn. Still, seeing the level of public dispute over the immigration thing you'd think they'd change course but against all odds they seem determined to stay the course. Why? I haven't a clue and I also don't mind the immigrants but the government have a definite idea that they're determined to carry through to the end even if it means getting hammered at the election, which they will because of it. Weird carry on really.

[Black Shepherd Carnage]

Either way, these heads and this kind of unambiguous intimidation is not on:

https://twitter.com/DurrutiDub/status/1736798896788320724

They're getting worse and worse.