#5595 October 14, 2023, 01:17:52 PM Last Edit: October 14, 2023, 01:19:30 PM by Eoin McLove
I haven't been following it very closely but from what I understand it's about giving aboriginals more representation in government. They wanted to have a figure head/ figure heads in there to advise the government about their concerns. Something like that. As far as the Nazi name calling goes, well yeah, nothing new there! From what I could see there were a number of aboriginal spokespeople standing against it so the split is kind of messy and unpredictable. I think they want some kind of referendum and were concerned that if they got the "voice" voted through, it might become an impediment to the greater cause. Kind of a token gesture to keep them sweet without really giving them any real power. But I'm not totally up on it so don't take my word.

People have been calling each other queers and nazis since at least 1968

https://youtu.be/Ho9M-q_kcn8?si=pK5BQrS81EqvCdG9


Quote from: Kunt 4 Life on October 14, 2023, 12:47:26 PMI see Australia has just had a referendum and the side that voted No has won by about 60%. Like Brexit the Yes side is calling the otherside racists and Nazis for not voting the right way. I'm not sure exactly what its all about but it's got something to do with giving aborigines a special place in government. Or something. I don't know, I'm an idiot regarding this stuff.


My bro is in Oz past 11 years. I asked him about it - he gave a few summary points ->

"Most simply see that there are already loads of aboriginal representative groups who also get a lot of funding and you'd see people saying they need an audit not another voice. Esp enshrinement of one group above others in constitution."

"One common reason spouted was enshrining racism into the constitution. Cost of living thing did not help as people were seeing real issues be ignored for this woke rubbish from an unpopular government."

"No where in South Australia has voted yes now - Really restricted to inner city rich areas. I'd say that's hand in hand with woke demographics and shows the political disconnect. Be similar everywhere in the western world."

"Northern Territory has 40% indigenous population in the electoral area outside Darwin - One of the strongest no votes. They obviously see the danger of losing out to a bigger single entity, big companies were hugely in favour of yes vote, could potentially go over local aboriginal tribes heads via the single "voice" entity esp when it comes to mining/land etc."

If you read the main headlines you'd swear it was more black and white.


Anyone see the video yesterday of that far left lunatic who drove into people at the RTE protest earlier in the year? Stephen Bedford I think someone on here said they worked with him before or knew someone who had worked with him. He was up on a second floor balcony of a building that he was apparently illegally occupying throwing stuff down on the Guards below who were trying to get inside to remove him. 

Quote from: mickO))) on October 17, 2023, 12:52:19 PMAnyone see the video yesterday of that far left lunatic who drove into people at the RTE protest earlier in the year? Stephen Bedford I think someone on here said they worked with him before or knew someone who had worked with him. He was up on a second floor balcony of a building that he was apparently illegally occupying throwing stuff down on the Guards below who were trying to get inside to remove him.

He gives me a good laugh whenever he crops up tbh he's like the left wing version of the fuckin eejits that define the far right in this country

Quote from: mickO))) on October 17, 2023, 12:52:19 PMAnyone see the video yesterday of that far left lunatic who drove into people at the RTE protest earlier in the year? Stephen Bedford I think someone on here said they worked with him before or knew someone who had worked with him. He was up on a second floor balcony of a building that he was apparently illegally occupying throwing stuff down on the Guards below who were trying to get inside to remove him.
any links?? Im pretty sure I jam in the same place as him

The video was sent to me on whatsapp I haven't seen it online.

Greta Thumberg is being accused of being anti semetic and steering out of her lane by getting involved in the Gaza stuff.
Picture on twitter with her and chums with pro Palesteine placards, and there's a blue toy octopus that's precariously placed on one girls knee (I thought it was just purched on the back of a sofa but it's definitely being balanced on her knee).
Wasn't totally aware of the symbolism but its used in anti semetic cartoons and its placement there just seems...I dunno... a little deliberate. Maybe Thumberg had no idea and one of her handlers thought it would be a subtle joke that no one would notice.
It's apparently a toy to help autistic children which Greta has but she's no longer a child at 20 now and that awww cute little girl with autism trick isn't going to run anymore.

#5604 October 21, 2023, 06:55:27 PM Last Edit: October 21, 2023, 07:03:33 PM by Black Shepherd Carnage
Maybe they're also used to communicate emotion to children and young people with autism, in the present case sending an unambiguous emotional message of anger. Apparently even less people know that a common symptom of autism is difficulty reading emotion than know that the octopus is supposedly a "well-known" anti-semitic trope! (I did not know this.) Either way, it's not on Greta's knee so her age, etc., is irrelevant to whether it "runs anymore", whatever that means in this context. I think the head-the-balls pushing this narrative, the likes of Ian Miles Cheong and others going so far as to call the cuddly toy a "kraken", would probably do better by going to get themselves diagnosed, since there is clearly something wrong with their minds too. Not a joke.

Fair play to Greta though, she's always been living the dream.

A test coming up that she hadn't studied for? Just call a strike to get out of it. Eventually leave school, and instead of having to get a job in IKEA, she gets to tour the the world on luxury yachts, first class trains, and not having to pay a penny for it. And then when it all ends, she'll have a lovely lucrative tour on the lecture circuit to look forward to, a la Bertie.  :laugh:

Bernie is some buck.  I was working at the gold mine on Lihir Island in New Ireland Province and opened the local paper and who but the bould Bertie is grinning out at me.
He was on nearby Bougainville been feted for sorting out the Peace Process between the BRA and the government. Ugh Ah up the bra.
Couldn't help but think the Scratch Saturday team would have got great mileage out of it.

Quote from: helmsa on October 19, 2023, 06:23:04 PM
Quote from: mickO))) on October 17, 2023, 12:52:19 PMAnyone see the video yesterday of that far left lunatic who drove into people at the RTE protest earlier in the year? Stephen Bedford I think someone on here said they worked with him before or knew someone who had worked with him. He was up on a second floor balcony of a building that he was apparently illegally occupying throwing stuff down on the Guards below who were trying to get inside to remove him.
any links?? Im pretty sure I jam in the same place as him

This him? https://www.rte.ie/news/regional/2023/1023/1412511-activist-courts/


Looks the spite of Bennings  :laugh:  ->

36??? He must live a hard life. He looks 60.

#5609 October 25, 2023, 08:23:08 PM Last Edit: October 25, 2023, 08:48:05 PM by astfgyl
And just like that, it's okay to say the Ukrainians are welfare tourists. Amazing neck from politicians and news outlets to actually pretend they didn't know all along while they called us all the far right for suggesting the obvious reality of what their policies were doing. How did they think they got the fuckin cars over here without passing through any other safe countries.

Anyway none of that will change going forward it's just that there's an election coming and other results from Europe aren't looking good for incumbent parties.

The reasons are many of course and for me I think largely economic but they can't really print any more money or provide economic stimulus after the covid years and whatnot so it's time for pretend populism in a last ditch effort to grab a few votes from those leaning a small bit right of centre (or anything other than extreme left tbh).

Watch those shape-shifting fuckers pretend that somehow now suddenly they have listened to the concerns of the citizens and can actually do something about something when they've actually been telling us all along that it's "International Obligations" that means they have to take any Tom dick or Harry that turns up unannounced and their hands and morals were tied.

Look now though suddenly it's in the mainstream discourse without so much as a mention of the fabled spectre of the far right in this country when in reality that foul spectre has long since been outed scooby doo style as being made up of about 4 unemployed lads in tracksuits who have no hopes of ever achieving anything other than to help the government spin the narrative du jour as suitable. Rent a mob shitehawks fulfilling their obligations.

It's in this thread instead of the fucked one or the peeves one because it's the pretend offence that actually got us to this point of not actually holding the political class to account ever and I see the road to here as having been inevitable once the PC shit and reality squared off against each other because one is a corporate push and the other is just what happens when people realise it's all actually worse for them.

Was anyone offended by the táiniste's comments by the way? I was, but for the sheer brazen insincerity of them.

Edit: here's another fucking stupid example that flies in the face of any notion of that fabled equality we're supposed to be striving for but didn't fancy another new post:

https://spunout.ie/life/your-rights/white-privilege